Avie: I do so apologize. Forget everything I said in the earlier email about Will Rogers. It was Wiley Post who dropped out of school early, it was Wiley Post who was around the air show. Wiley and Will were killed together in an airplane crash off Point Barrow, Alaska. Blame it on a senior moment. But you might still try the State Library in the Oklahoma Historical Society Building and still try the school records in the county. Sorry about the mixup. Liz Freeman

I have had a major computer problem which I think was caused by a grandson who while visiting me a week ago adding AOL to my computer. I think that AOL and my system efortress.com are not working well together. I am going to take my computer to someone smarter than myself tomorrow and hopeful get it fixed. I am working on a laptop in the meantime. I will not have the ability to be as easy to connect with for a few days. If you need me try during the day at my work - kburnett@wardleygmac.com. I will be back real soon and will send out your first quarterly report when I am up and running again. Please remember the rules of the list and if someone breaks them, JUST LET IT PASS. I will have us back to normal in a few days. Take care - see you soon. Kathleen Burnett List Mom To learn more about my world, visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett

Hi all, Obituary Central will be unveiling the Carter County Obituary Search Engine that will cover 1997 through 2001 fulltext obits as archived at Ardmore. You can research your surnames there by going to the Obituary Archive Search Engine at http://www.obitcentral.com The search engine should be ready by late tonight. Bill Cribbs WebWide Surname Locator http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/surnames/ Obituary Links Page http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/ Obituary Archive Search Engine http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/ Local Obituary Search Engines http://www.obitcentral.com/obitsearch/other.htm Family Surname Obituary Archives http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/famobit.htm Canadian Obituary Links Page http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/canada.htm CemSEARCH http://www.obitcentral.com/cemsearch/ ShipSEARCH http://www.obitcentral.com/shipsearch/ Historical & Genealogical Societies of the United States http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/hs/

Hi all. I am at it again with my search for the Caudle family. I wish to Thanks Liz Freeman and the rest of the list members who were so very very kind with their assistance. Unfortunately i still haven't found out where Ross Caudle met Will Rogers. I have emailed the Will Rogers Museum but they have not replied. Does anyone else have suggestions on who or where to contact. The Department of Education said they had no information on the schools from that time period. I have a couple of questions to ask. Ross Caudles step mother, Nellie Brandt Caudle was a mid wife in the area around Claremore and Oogalah. Sorry if I spelled it wrong.. Would midwifes have to go to the county seat and register? Did they help the local town doctor? In the 1900 Census, Indian Territory, (Thanks to Joy Elkins) they were shown to be renting where they lived. My mom told me that right before they left they sold their property. I have tried the BLM records site with negative results? I am at a loss at who, what, and where to go from here. Any suggestions? I received a very pleasant surprise in the mail the other day. A cousin sent me a picture of Ross Caudle while he was living in New Mexico. The picture was taken about one month prior to his death. Now I know what he looked like. Avie

Avie: Have you tried the OK State Library in the Oklahoma Historical Society Building. In the lobby of the building, they have many artificts/photos on Will Rogers. It may be they have more information. While waiting for the library to open one day, I reread all the info in the lobby. If I remember correctly, one article said he dropped out of school in the 7th grade (I may not have that right). But if that is the case, I'm sure they could tell you the years he was in school and where he went to school. My experience with researching schools in OK is that the school records are maintined in the county where the school is located - some in the school system itself, some in the county records. I have found school records back as far as 1911 in four different counties. If your Caudle person were into flying, he could have easily met Rogers in one of the Air Shows. Good luck. Liz Freeman > > I have a couple of questions to ask. > > Ross Caudles step mother, Nellie Brandt Caudle was a mid wife in the area > around Claremore and Oogalah. Sorry if I spelled it wrong.. Would midwifes > have to go to the county seat and register? Did they help the local town > doctor? > > In the 1900 Census, Indian Territory, (Thanks to Joy Elkins) they were shown > to be renting where they lived. My mom told me that right before they left > they sold their property. I have tried the BLM records site with negative > results? I am at a loss at who, what, and where to go from here. > > Any suggestions? > > I received a very pleasant surprise in the mail the other day. A cousin sent > me a picture of Ross Caudle while he was living in New Mexico. The picture > was taken about one month prior to his death. Now I know what he looked

I don't know if there is a genealogy society anywhere near Holdenville. One of the things that goes on here is that genealogists are constantly recording things into the computer for future generations. Some of these old records are miles and miles long. You would need some volunteers and the funeral home would have to agree to let the genealogy society come in and record the records. ----- Original Message ----- From: Vickie Neill Taylor <flip@okplus.com> To: <OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:32 AM Subject: [OKROOTS] Funeral Records Lost To Time! > Hi List, > I had a very sad trip to Holdenville yesterday. I went over to the > funeral home to do a little research. It appears that all of the records > dating back before 1927, have pretty much been lost to time. The books are > still there, but they are in such poor shape that they wouldn't allow me to > use them. > I am trying to work out something with them to some how record the > information and at least save it to disks or something to keep the > information available for use. > If you have any ideas, please let me know. Rebinding the books would be > so expensive that it is kind of out of the question, there is a shelf full > of them. How can I help them to preserve the information in the books? I'm > certainly open to suggestion here. > With this in mind, your might want to consider speaking with your > neighboring funeral homes to see if the same fate might be about to happen. > Maybe this problem can be avoided to other records. > > > Vickie Neill Taylor > flip@okplus.com > > > ==== OKROOTS Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Oklahoma Roots Mailing List, use > OKROOTS-l-request@rootsweb.com or OKROOTS-d-request@rootsweb.com if > you are on the Digest list. > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm >

Vi, You may have seen these, they are from the 1900 Chickasaw census for Garvin Co. Jim Fowler B235©215 THOMPSON, MINNIE S/L W F AUG 1886 13 TX TN OH A195©14 THOMPSON, MINNIE L WF IN F JAN 1874 26 M©10 IT IT 5©CHILDREN

Hi List, I had a very sad trip to Holdenville yesterday. I went over to the funeral home to do a little research. It appears that all of the records dating back before 1927, have pretty much been lost to time. The books are still there, but they are in such poor shape that they wouldn't allow me to use them. I am trying to work out something with them to some how record the information and at least save it to disks or something to keep the information available for use. If you have any ideas, please let me know. Rebinding the books would be so expensive that it is kind of out of the question, there is a shelf full of them. How can I help them to preserve the information in the books? I'm certainly open to suggestion here. With this in mind, your might want to consider speaking with your neighboring funeral homes to see if the same fate might be about to happen. Maybe this problem can be avoided to other records. Vickie Neill Taylor flip@okplus.com

Dear Susan and List, Thank you for the URL of the history of your town. I will certainly be looking forward to reading it. With Best Regards Victoria Brittain Allen First On Line Directory 1917-1918 Online Directory http://brittainsbookbarn.homestead.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Bradford <smcb0824@brightok.net> To: <OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 6:49 PM Subject: [OKROOTS] Duke, Oklahoma > Hi Victoria, > Check out "The Town of East Duke" (there's a story behind that) > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~swokla/jackson/eastduke.html > > Duke was named in honor of Judge F. B. Duke who was the federal judge in > Mangum, OK. > > > At 12:47 PM 3/28/01 -0100, you wrote: > >Dear Susan and List, > > > >I notice that your address says "Duke , Oklahoma." I am interested in the > >DUKE surname as it has came up in my study of my family history in two > >different places. > >With Best Regards > >Victoria Brittain > > > > > > > > Commerce, Picher, Tar River, Century and Miami, Ottawa county,OKLAHOMA > >1917-1918 Online CITY Directory > > http://brittainsbookbarn.homestead.com > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Susan Bradford <smcb0824@brightok.net> > >To: <OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 4:44 PM > >Subject: [OKROOTS] Marriages from Newspapers of Old Greer Co, O.T. 1898-1906 > > > > > > > SEARCH 2,000 MARRIAGES IN OLD GREER COUNTY, Oklahoma NEWSPAPERS > >1898-1906 > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgreer/olgrmarr.html > > > Old Greer County includes present day Greer, Jackson & Harmon > > > Counties & southern part of Beckham County. Bride or Groom or Marriage > > > Event from Old Greer County, neighbor counties of Oklahoma and Texas. > >Other > > > states mentioned: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Georgia, Illinois, > > > Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, > > > Tennessee. Dates databased are from the Newspaper, not the marriage, a few > > > dates are of 10 or 50 year Anniversaries. Some entries include notes with > > > parents, locations, occupations. > > > > > > Many thanks to Jodean Martin for compiling the marriages presented here. > > > The Newspapers, MANGUM STAR, SUN MONITOR, and GREER COUNTY WEEKLY, are on > > > microfilm at Margaret Carder Library, Mangum, Oklahoma and Oklahoma > > > Historical Society, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. > > > > > > also at http://userdb.rootsweb.com/marriages/ > > > > > > Susan Bradford, Rt 1, Duke, OK 73532-9125 > > > SW Oklahoma http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~swokla/ > > > Greer Co OKGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgreer/okgreer.htm Coordinator > > > Dewey Co OKGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~okdewey/okdewey.htm Coordinator > > > OKGenWeb Marriages http://marti.rootsweb.com/okmarr/marriage.htm > > > OKGenWeb Land Openings http://marti.rootsweb.com/land/oklands.html > > > smcb0824@brightok.net or smcb@email.com > > > > > > > > > ==== OKROOTS Mailing List ==== > > > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > > > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > > > > > > > > > > >==== OKROOTS Mailing List ==== > >Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > >http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > >To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > >Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer > >Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > > ==== OKROOTS Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > >

Hi Victoria, Check out "The Town of East Duke" (there's a story behind that) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~swokla/jackson/eastduke.html Duke was named in honor of Judge F. B. Duke who was the federal judge in Mangum, OK. At 12:47 PM 3/28/01 -0100, you wrote: >Dear Susan and List, > >I notice that your address says "Duke , Oklahoma." I am interested in the >DUKE surname as it has came up in my study of my family history in two >different places. >With Best Regards >Victoria Brittain > > > > Commerce, Picher, Tar River, Century and Miami, Ottawa county,OKLAHOMA >1917-1918 Online CITY Directory > http://brittainsbookbarn.homestead.com > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Susan Bradford <smcb0824@brightok.net> >To: <OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 4:44 PM >Subject: [OKROOTS] Marriages from Newspapers of Old Greer Co, O.T. 1898-1906 > > > > SEARCH 2,000 MARRIAGES IN OLD GREER COUNTY, Oklahoma NEWSPAPERS >1898-1906 > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgreer/olgrmarr.html > > Old Greer County includes present day Greer, Jackson & Harmon > > Counties & southern part of Beckham County. Bride or Groom or Marriage > > Event from Old Greer County, neighbor counties of Oklahoma and Texas. >Other > > states mentioned: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Georgia, Illinois, > > Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, > > Tennessee. Dates databased are from the Newspaper, not the marriage, a few > > dates are of 10 or 50 year Anniversaries. Some entries include notes with > > parents, locations, occupations. > > > > Many thanks to Jodean Martin for compiling the marriages presented here. > > The Newspapers, MANGUM STAR, SUN MONITOR, and GREER COUNTY WEEKLY, are on > > microfilm at Margaret Carder Library, Mangum, Oklahoma and Oklahoma > > Historical Society, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. > > > > also at http://userdb.rootsweb.com/marriages/ > > > > Susan Bradford, Rt 1, Duke, OK 73532-9125 > > SW Oklahoma http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~swokla/ > > Greer Co OKGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgreer/okgreer.htm Coordinator > > Dewey Co OKGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~okdewey/okdewey.htm Coordinator > > OKGenWeb Marriages http://marti.rootsweb.com/okmarr/marriage.htm > > OKGenWeb Land Openings http://marti.rootsweb.com/land/oklands.html > > smcb0824@brightok.net or smcb@email.com > > > > > > ==== OKROOTS Mailing List ==== > > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > > > > > >==== OKROOTS Mailing List ==== >Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; >http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html >To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett >Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer >Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm

Dear Susan and List, I notice that your address says "Duke , Oklahoma." I am interested in the DUKE surname as it has came up in my study of my family history in two different places. With Best Regards Victoria Brittain Commerce, Picher, Tar River, Century and Miami, Ottawa county,OKLAHOMA 1917-1918 Online CITY Directory http://brittainsbookbarn.homestead.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Bradford <smcb0824@brightok.net> To: <OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 4:44 PM Subject: [OKROOTS] Marriages from Newspapers of Old Greer Co, O.T. 1898-1906 > SEARCH 2,000 MARRIAGES IN OLD GREER COUNTY, Oklahoma NEWSPAPERS 1898-1906 > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgreer/olgrmarr.html > Old Greer County includes present day Greer, Jackson & Harmon > Counties & southern part of Beckham County. Bride or Groom or Marriage > Event from Old Greer County, neighbor counties of Oklahoma and Texas. Other > states mentioned: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Georgia, Illinois, > Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, > Tennessee. Dates databased are from the Newspaper, not the marriage, a few > dates are of 10 or 50 year Anniversaries. Some entries include notes with > parents, locations, occupations. > > Many thanks to Jodean Martin for compiling the marriages presented here. > The Newspapers, MANGUM STAR, SUN MONITOR, and GREER COUNTY WEEKLY, are on > microfilm at Margaret Carder Library, Mangum, Oklahoma and Oklahoma > Historical Society, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. > > also at http://userdb.rootsweb.com/marriages/ > > Susan Bradford, Rt 1, Duke, OK 73532-9125 > SW Oklahoma http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~swokla/ > Greer Co OKGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgreer/okgreer.htm Coordinator > Dewey Co OKGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~okdewey/okdewey.htm Coordinator > OKGenWeb Marriages http://marti.rootsweb.com/okmarr/marriage.htm > OKGenWeb Land Openings http://marti.rootsweb.com/land/oklands.html > smcb0824@brightok.net or smcb@email.com > > > ==== OKROOTS Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > >

SEARCH 2,000 MARRIAGES IN OLD GREER COUNTY, Oklahoma NEWSPAPERS 1898-1906 http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgreer/olgrmarr.html Old Greer County includes present day Greer, Jackson & Harmon Counties & southern part of Beckham County. Bride or Groom or Marriage Event from Old Greer County, neighbor counties of Oklahoma and Texas. Other states mentioned: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, Tennessee. Dates databased are from the Newspaper, not the marriage, a few dates are of 10 or 50 year Anniversaries. Some entries include notes with parents, locations, occupations. Many thanks to Jodean Martin for compiling the marriages presented here. The Newspapers, MANGUM STAR, SUN MONITOR, and GREER COUNTY WEEKLY, are on microfilm at Margaret Carder Library, Mangum, Oklahoma and Oklahoma Historical Society, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. also at http://userdb.rootsweb.com/marriages/ Susan Bradford, Rt 1, Duke, OK 73532-9125 SW Oklahoma http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~swokla/ Greer Co OKGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgreer/okgreer.htm Coordinator Dewey Co OKGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~okdewey/okdewey.htm Coordinator OKGenWeb Marriages http://marti.rootsweb.com/okmarr/marriage.htm OKGenWeb Land Openings http://marti.rootsweb.com/land/oklands.html smcb0824@brightok.net or smcb@email.com

Roberta I have seen requests on this list for many States other than OK. I don't know why though. I have to apologize to the list folks, I did not get to go the Library yesterday due to a family emergency. Maybe everything will be OK next week and I can do a little research for you all. Tom

Hi; I was wondering if some kind soul would look up in Ardmore Okla.1900 census for Minnie Thompson, should be living with a Stradley family and also in Soundex S 520 a Shoemaker family William Shoemaker, Thank you Vi Waldie

Roberta I go to the Poteau Library tomorrow afternoon and I will see if I can come up with something. Our 1920 soundex is incomplete but I will see what we have. Who knows, we may find something worthwhile. I'll get back to you later. Tom S

Hello Tom Sorry I assumed that because this is the OKROOTS everyone would know I am looking in OK. I am looking in Oklahoma for the Martins. Specifically the 1910 or 1920 soundex/miracode index for James/Jim and Sophia MARTIN they had at least one son named Richard G. MARTIN. The soundex code for Martin is M635. I have no idea which county- that is one of the things I am hoping to learn. I have access to the 1900 and 1920 OK census but no index... Any help is greatly appreciated. Roberta in Vancouver, WA

Roberta It would help a great deal if you would say in your e letter which State and County you want a look up in. As you know, the more info that you impart the more helpful it is to the person that may do some looking. There are lots of James Martins. Just a helpful suggestion. Thanks Tom S

Original Print Oct. 29, 1930 Jackson Editorial: Apparently the only to get the facts in the election fraud is through a grand jury. Judge CRUMP, Homer BISHOP What caused the burning of Francis NECAIR? That was the question being asked by the people who saw the body of the 46-year-old Syrian-American.... Francis NECAIR S. A. DOYLE, well-known in Seminole as agent of the Atlas Insurance company, dropped dead.... S. A. DOYLE A marriage announcement that comes as a complete surprise to their host of friends in this city is that of Mrs. Mary ADAMS QUINTON and H. W. HOFFMAN. Mrs. Mary ADAMS QUINTON, H. W. HOFFMAN Vickie Neill Taylor flip@okplus.com

CLEMMER, Alfred Dalton Sept. 23, 1920 Nov. 13, 2000 Services: Corley Cemetery in Stratford, Pickard Funeral Home, Rev. Robert CHANDLER Parents: Ariel Dalton and Ida Mae MCDANIEL) CLEMMER Married: Mammie LOONEY on Nov. 9, 1951 in Gainesville, TX. Preceded by: wife in 1997, parents Survivors: 3 sons Mike CLEMMER, Joe CLEMMER, Owen CLEMMER, daughter Carolyn HART, brother Calvin CLEMMER, 3 sisters Minnie SPARKS, Geneva NORVELL, Altha WILLIAMS, 16 grandchildren and 9 great-grandchildren BRUNER, Terry Lane June 6, 1959 Nov 9, 2000 Services: Bro. Cordell BANKS officiating, Keller Funeral Home, Westwood Cemetery Parents: Ural and Meadene (BRUNER) CAROLINA Survivors: parents, daughter Nicole BRUNER, 2 sisters Dodie Kaye BRITT, Gloria Faye PORTER, 7 brothers Ned BRUNER, Ricky BURTON, Joe Don GORDON, Tony BRUNER, Herbert GULLEY Jr., James GULLEY, Pual BRUNER ABLE, Leona (KIRKENDALL) July 23, 1911 Nov. 13, 2000 Services: Swearingen Funeral Home, Rev. Floyd TATE officiating, Resthaven Memorial Gardens Parents: Robert and Lula KIRKENDALL Married: Charlie MOUNCE, Charles CLARK in 1934, Harvey ABLE in 1964. Preceded by: Charlie MOUNCE, Charles CLARK in 1959, Harvey ABLE in 1993, 2 daughters Lois and Virgie MOUNCE, 2 brothers Bob and Alvin KIRKENDALL, parents Survivors: daughter Dorothy DAUGHERTY, 5 step grandchildren, several step great-grandchildren JONES, Jack Oct. 14, 1920 Nov. 13, 2000 Services: Swearingen Funeral Home, Revs. Curt BARTMASS and Frank HESTER officiating, Little Cemetery Parents: Jessie Lee and Tempie Jane (LANE) JONES Married: Laverne "Skinnie" JORDAN on Aug. 17, 1941 in Mission , TX. Preceded by: parents, sister Hazel JORDAN, brother Luther JONES Survivors: wife, son Jackie JONES, 2 daughters Billie LIGON and Cherlene YARBOUGH, brother John JONES, 2 sisters Effie SMITH, Betty COX, 8 grandchildren, 18 great-grandchildren, 1 great-great-grandchild Pallbearers: Steve LONGACRE, Jimmy BUCK, Mile HILTON, Jerry COX, Scot NEESE and Charles REED Honorary bearers: John SHELL, Ronnie KISER, Dewayne BROWN, Jackie Allen JONES, Danny YARBROUGH. Vickie Neill Taylor flip@okplus.com

Try checking in the court clerk's office for the county in question. Vickie Neill Taylor flip@okplus.com