At 04:06 PM 9/25/98 -0500, Tom Sutterfield wrote: >Hello, List! > >Just thought I'd mention it, in case you're interested. There's a Dalton's >museum in Coffeyville, KS, has lots of pictures, artifacts, etc. There is >also the Brown mansion there, which is open to tours. I don't remember >how he was associated with them, I'm kinda rusty on my Dalton Gang history. I checked out a book today on them, just to see if the COOKS were mentioned, but NOOOO, guess not. Guess I will have to pull a few of the articles when I get a chance and see if there is anything there. No big rush tho...maybe Sharon will get caught up some and want to do some outlaw hunting...(hint hint) Nalora

At 01:02 PM 9/25/98 -0700, N&D Kelly wrote: >Hello OKROOTERS, >Does anyone know anything about the Hanning brothers who rode with Bell >Star? > One of my surnames I am researching is Haning, family word of mouth >history is, the family changed the spelling of the name, because they >were embarassed by the Hanning family's connection to Bell Star. The >Hanning brothers are said to related to me. Went to the library today (normal old regular library) and saw a book on Belle Star. Have you tried your local library? Nalora

Need any info re name PLUE or PLEW, Osage and/or Seminole Counties, OK,in the 1920s and 1930s. Probably followed the oil field work. Dau was named Nell Lorene PLUE, b. abt 1915, maybe Missouri. Thanks! Mary Bryant Park crosstich@webtv.net

DIDN'T THAT JIM JULY PERSON ALSO GO BY THE NAME OF BLUE DUCK?

Hello, List! Just thought I'd mention it, in case you're interested. There's a Dalton's museum in Coffeyville, KS, has lots of pictures, artifacts, etc. There is also the Brown mansion there, which is open to tours. I don't remember how he was associated with them, I'm kinda rusty on my Dalton Gang history. Tom Sutterfield

Hi List, I am a new subscriber to this list. I am looking for a cemetery listing for Giles Cemetery in Pottawatomie Co. I remember going there as a child with my grandparents. My great grandfather, Harvey Donald OWEN, is buried there. He died October, 3, 1906. I remember that his headstone had a Masonic symbol on it. Can anyone suggest how I could get more information about him? I have a letter he wrote stating that he went to the Masonic Grand Lodge in Guthrie (1903). Also, he was a physician. Thanks for any suggestions. Dana Christian

Hello OKROOTERS, Does anyone know anything about the Hanning brothers who rode with Bell Star? One of my surnames I am researching is Haning, family word of mouth history is, the family changed the spelling of the name, because they were embarassed by the Hanning family's connection to Bell Star. The Hanning brothers are said to related to me. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks, Nora N. Kelly Oracle, Arizona

Bickel and Cocoran (I think)

I'm just a hop, skip, and a jump away, in Owasso... Tom WendyGayle@aol.com wrote: > > Anyone living in Claremore on this list? I have living relatives there and > ....

I found 5 graves at the Johnston County, OK site, the Wapanucka Cemetery: James Ray Walkup 1959-1960 Edward Leo Walkup 1900-1956 Joseph Edward Walkup 1866-1935 Dora Watson Walkup 1879-1920 Roy Walkup 1897-1969 Have you ever heard of these people? Somehow they are related to my Fred Gordon Walkup that I have been trying to find something on. Fred's mother was Mrs. F.M.Watson at the time of Fred's death. Thank you for your time.

I don't live in Claremore, but my mom grew up there, and still has a coup;e of sisters living there.

I have THE DALTON GANG STORY by Nancy B. Samuelson (Shooting Star Press, 1992). Researched & documented. Not indexed. I went through it once & wrote down surnames. ONE association of TURNER to gang. Bill Dalton's son Charles married Emma TURNER & had six children. WEST OF HELL'S FRINGE by Glenn Shirley has two TURNERS. Will Turner was Deputy Sheriff in Pottawatomie Co, spring 1895. M. L. Turner, territorial treasurer [co-owner of Capitol National Bank] At 01:18 PM 9/25/98 EDT, you wrote: >I have a large article about them and who they teamed up with, but no mention >of Turner. However, Emmett Dalton's main literary work entitled When trhe >Daltons Rode, which appeared in 1931, six years before the last of the Daltons >died. It purported to be a true account of the Dalton's activities. Emmett >Dalton (he is of the original gang) was a building contractor. He also did >some writing for the movies and appeared in small roles. What they are I >don't know and my book doesn't say. > > >

Anyone living in Claremore on this list? I have living relatives there and ....

I have a large article about them and who they teamed up with, but no mention of Turner. However, Emmett Dalton's main literary work entitled When trhe Daltons Rode, which appeared in 1931, six years before the last of the Daltons died. It purported to be a true account of the Dalton's activities. Emmett Dalton (he is of the original gang) was a building contractor. He also did some writing for the movies and appeared in small roles. What they are I don't know and my book doesn't say.

My grandfather, Robert CLARK, Jr. (b. 1872 Indianola, TX, d. 1904 Tishimango, IT) was supposedly living with his half-brother Dr. Abner S. CROCKER, Jr. (b. 1867 Victoria, TX, d. c 1925 OK) when he died at age 32. I would like to get the real facts as to his death, for inherited medical purposes, and his burial site. Am also interested in making contact with any of Dr. CROCKER's descendants. any information greatly appreciated. R. Paul Adams, Baton Rouge, LA.

I am seeking the death date of Lucinda Brownlee Westbrook, died abt 1910, in Lincoln Co, OK. She was the wife of Rob Westbrook, married Jan 5, 1899, in Tate co, MS. They had 6-8 children and she died in Lincoln Co, abt 1910 of TB, perhaps in a Sanitarium. I was wondering if anyone can link up, or look-up this date, as barring my going to OK, I haven't been able to find any information on all the children, her death date and what happened to Rob Westrook. Perhaps a Cemetery listing, or obit. The children were raised by "family" in MS. Rob Westbrook, is thought to have remarried and started another family. Thanks so much, Lisa Henderson

NC Death Records, 1978 Name: KARR, PAUL THEEDE Death Date: August 09, 1978 Sex: Male Race: White Age: 86 Years Place of Death:  , Henderson, North Carolina Place of Residence:  , Henderson, North Carolina Autopsy: No Hospital: Nursing and Rest Homes Bed Code: Marital Status: Widowed Attendant: Physician Burial: Cremation out of state Birth Date: May 28, 1892 State of Birth: Remainder of World (I have no idea what that means) Social Security Number: 330073714 NC Death Records, 1988-1992 Name: THEEDE, EDWARD OTTO Date of Birth: January 29, 1917 Death Date: November 28, 1991 Sex: Male Race: White Age: 74 Years Place of Occurance: Asheville, Buncombe, North Carolina Place of Residence: Asheville. Buncombe, North Carolina Autopsy: No Hospital: Home Marital Status: Married Attendant: Medical Examiner Mode of Burial: Cremation in state State of Birth: New York Social Security Number: 101059183 Fathers Surname: THEEDE Place of Injury: NC Death Records, 1993-1997 Name: THEEDE, DOROTHY COLLINS Date of Birth: September 30, 1920 Death Date: February 27, 1994 Sex: Female Race: White Age: 73 Years Place of Occurance:  ,  , Colorado Place of Residence: Asheville. Buncombe, North Carolina Autopsy: No Hospital: Nursing and Rest Homes Marital Status: Widowed Attendant: Coroner Mode of Burial: Cremation in state State of Birth: New York Social Security Number: 078144843 Fathers Surname: COLLINS Place of Injury: Land Records -- Minnesota Otto Theede, Duluth 160 acres Obits: Johanna Theede Bergeron,a retired switchboard operator, died Monday of a heart attack at Highland Park Hospital in Covington. She was 61. Mrs. Bergeron was born in St. Louis, lived in New Orleans 32 years and in Mandeville for the past 28 years. ETC... Obituary: PEKIN -- John F. Deweese, 77, of 1207 Florence Ave., formerly of Delavan, died at 9:18 a.m. Tuesday, May 23, 1995, at Pekin Hospital. Born Nov. 6, 1917, in Milltown, Ind., to Irven R. and Maude E. Parker Deweese, he married Lillian M. Stiles on Aug. 26, 1938, in Pekin. She survives. Also surviving are three daughters, Charlotte F. McIntyre of Pekin, Deletta W. Theede of Sauk Rapids, Minn. ETC... MANITO -- Emil E. Franck, 86, of Manito died at 9:10 p.m. Wednesday, Feb. 19, 1997, at Bel-Wood Nursing Home in Peoria County. Born Dec. 22, 1910, in Aurora to Emil and Anna Lebelle Franck, he married Ann D. Musaraca in October 1942. She died Aug. 31, 1973. He also was preceded in death by one brother, two sisters and one granddaughter. He later married Vilena Sutliff on June 18, 1974, in Las Vegas. She survives. Surviving are one son, Edward of Big Rock; one stepson, Joe Beyke of Sandwich; one daughter, Toni Foreman of Oswego; three stepdaughters, Barbara Theede ETC... * CHARLES "CHUCK" EMARINE, 24, of Fort Collins died Sept. 24 in Iowa. Graveside services were Sept. 29 at Grandview Cemetery. Mr. Emarine was born April 3, 1970, in Fort Collins. He attended Poudre High School and Golden High School. He also attended Aimes College. He was an ironworker and enjoyed playing the guitar, singing and horses. Survivors include a son, Jake; a daughter, Amanda; his father and stepmother, John and JoEllen Emarine of Fort Collins; his mother, Patricia Kear of Aurora; his stepfather, Steve Spiker of Armstrong, Iowa; a sister, Debbie Emarine of Mason City, Iowa; a brother, John Emarine II of Forest City, Iowa; his grandmother, D. Faye Davis of Aurora; a stepbrother, Darren Ashby of Brush; and a stepsister, Denise Theede of Longmont. ETC... She is survived by two daughters, Margaret Lane of Hemet and Carolyn Cannon of Texas; two stepdaughters, Bobbie Swarts of Hemet and Linda Scheflin of Tennessee; eight grandchildren; six great-grandchildren; and a sister, Neva Theede of Iowa. CLARA JUNE HOLWAY, 88, a homemaker in Cherokee, Iowa, died Sept. 24, 1994, at a Colorado Springs hospital. No local services are planned. Swan-Law Funeral Home, 501 N. Cascade Ave., is handling arrangements. Mrs. Holway was born June 29, 1906, in Omaha, Neb., to Frank and Mary (Pertl) Freihage. She was married to Bernard S. Holway, who is deceased. Mrs. Holway is survived by four daughters, June Rose Jordahl of Cherokee, Maryanne Theede of Lewiston, Minn. ETC...

At 01:24 AM 9/25/98 -0500, alan lamb wrote: >Dear Friends, >Byars, Ok. is in McClain Co. Lexington, Ok. is in Cleveland Co. >Thought you might want to make this correction. Not sure what counties >the others are in, probably are in Pottawatomie County. Wanette is Pott county. (Wanette had the doctor, by the way, so says my 95 year old grandmother, now deceased) There was a nice road coming up from Byars to Wanette, to Trousdale, to Shawnee. And I had relatives born in each one of these towns, so I asked Grandma about Wanette (only one HURD was born there) She said: Wanette had the doctor. hehe Nalora

Conn. Death Index 1949-1970 State File Number: 03855 Name: THEEDE, GUSTA Sex: Male Race: White Death Date: March 17, 1953 Age: 61 Years Place of Death: Danbury, Fairfield, Connecticut Place of Birth:  ,   Marital Status: Never Married Decedent's Last Spouse:   Education:   Residence of Decedent: 000, Out-of-State, New York Address of Residence:      ,   Father's Surname:   Occupation:   Industry Where Decedent Worked

I Found 7 family trees online with this surname: infant son, abt. 1928; Larry Allen Apr 2, 1965 lived for 6 hours; Louis Henry 26 Jun 1885 - 6 aug 1955; Malinda, Margaret Ann; Michael Martin 14 May 1930 - 17 Apr 1996 Omaha, NE (he was married twice); Michael 1943 - abt. 1970