Well put! Printed it out and hung it on the wall. Vashti wrote: > LOOK UP GUIDELINES (Or how to get your name to the top of the stack) > > A *Lookup* is NOT Research, it is just what it says: a lookup. I (or anyone > else doing the lookup) am just your legs. You live far away or can not get > to the resource and the information I *MIGHT* be able to find will push you > a little ahead in *your* research. > > 1. FOCUS your search by ANALYZING your data. If I am forced to analyze your > data for you, I will put your name at the bottom of my list until I have > time to analyze it. > > Think: What do I WANT?? What EVENT? i.e., BIRTH, MARRIAGE, DEATH, other. > on WHO? Choose a family MEMBER, not an entire family. Which Family member > will give you the most information? What data is missing on that family member? > > Think: Where would *I* go to find this information if I were in a > genealogical library? NEWSPAPERS, BOOKS, CENSUS, INDIAN ARCHIVES, ETC. > > 2. *After* you have done the above, try to complete as much information as > you can. LOOKUP your city and see what COUNTY it is in. the Web site: > http://www.itools.com/research-it/ has a GEOGRAPHICAL section which will > take you to a searchable GAZETTEER run by the US Census Dept. > > 3. Be consise and organized in your Lookup request. Put SURNAMES in caps. > _______________________________________________________________________ > Here is a sample of a good Lookup request: > > SOURCE: Newspapers (or census/books/Indian archives) > > EVENT: obit (or other event) > > PERSON: SMITH, John Jacob Jingleheimer > > DATES: d. Jan 3, 1910 > > PLACE: Shawnee, OK, Pottawatamie county > > Other info that might help lookup person: > > Give details that you think might help here. Died in a fire, etc. for > Census lookups family details, wife, children would go here. > _________________________________________________________________________ > If you want a HARD COPY, then you will have to send me a SASE and 1 dollar in > the mail. My info is on the OKGenWeb site. > > I do pick up lookups in the list as I see something I might find for that > person, but if you send me a private email, with the words LOOKUP in the > subject line it will get my attention faster. > > In the next post I will show you what is on my lookup list right now. > > Nalora > > (another thing that gets you *permanent* status on my lookup list and will > make me go to the ends of the earth for you is if you have discovered you > are KIN to me, or are researching the same NAMES in the same area I am) >

At 10:38 AM 9/26/98 -0500, Crosstitch Grandma wrote: >Hi -- the most knowledgeable person around these parts on Oklahoma gangs >is Glenn Shirley. He lives here in Stillwater, OK. You could purchase >a copy of his book (he has written many) by contacting > >Caravan Books >620 South Main >Stillwater, OK 74075 > >they may also have an e-mail number, but I don't know what it is. > In the book I checked out yesterday from the Library called: "The Dalton Gang" by Harold Preece 1963 Hastings House Publications it says in the acknowledgments: Special thanks to Glenn SHIRLEY who knows every outlaw hangout in Oklahoma. Glenn Shirley's book (again for anyone who missed it) is: Law West of Fort Smith 1957 Nalora

I am seeking information about Hollis William "Jack" WRIGHT born either October 18, 1870 or October 28, 1876 in Kings County, Brooklyn, NY or was born October 28, 1879 in TN. He died April 28, 1949 in Okfuskee County, OK at the age of 69. He married Georgia Edyth (Edith) TEDFORD on September 14, 1908 in Crawford County, Flatrock, IL. She was the daughter of Joseph TEDFORD and Emma RIBER. He worked for a railroad. He was injured in a railroad accident. He had a large scar on one of his shoulders said to have resulted from being scalded by hot water in the accident. He also worked in the oil fields. He moved around a lot. He lived and worked at Cowlington, Keota, Broken Arrow, Wetumka, Slick City, Walters, Keifer, and Tulsa, OK. Children of Hollis WRIGHT and Georgia Edyth (Edith) TEDFORD were: i. Keith WRIGHT, who died in infancy ii. Thelma Evelyn WRIGHT, b. July 5, 1909; m. SID MUIRHEAD. iii. Hollis Waldroff (Walter) WRIGHT, b. January 15, 1911, Keota, Haskell County, OK; d. December 11, 1977, Seminole, Seminole County, OK; m. LORENE GOOD. iv. Katherine Maybell WRIGHT, b. June 5, 1914, Dewey, Washington County, OK10; m. (1) George Dixon WOOD, October 31, 1932, Seminole County, OK; m. (2) Robert SUDDATH, November 12, 1959, Las Vegas, NV. v. Myra Elaine WRIGHT, b. April 1, 1917. Jack_Wood@email.msn.com http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/o/o/Jack-Wood/ Researching BATTE/BATTES/BATES/BATT/BATTS-DIXON-TEDFORD-WOOD-WRIGHT

this is the online site for Intruders and non-Indians in the Creek Nation 1875-1895 <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~itcreek/records2.htm">Creek Nation, Indian Territory Genealogical R...</A> http://www.rootsweb.com%7Eitcreek/records2.htm

Vinita is Craig Co.

My great grandmother and grandfather was married in Massae Co., IL and most of their descendants migrated to Wetumka, Hughes Co., Oklahoma. Is anyone else researching the ADKINS and STICE family of this area. CAPITALIZED names are our direct ancestors. Descendants of SAMUEL ANDREW ADKINS 1 SAMUEL ANDREW ADKINS b: 25 Sep 1841 in Near Tuscaloosa, AL d: Aft 1914 in Milford, Ellis Co., TX Fact 1: Was a Bugler Boy at age 13 with the Union during the Civil War. Fact 2: Joined up in Illinois and marched through Georgia. Fact 3: At one time, owned a store in Medford, Oregon and his sons helped him run it. Fact 4: Sold the store in 1912 and then went to Oklahoma, Texas, and California. Fact 5: 25 Sep 1851 Samuel stated in a letter he wrote that he was born this date .. +SARAH REBECCA STICE b: 5 Sep 1853 in Metropolis, IL m: 27 Sep 1869 in Near Pellonia, Massac Co., IL d: 10 Feb 1914 in Elcentro, Imperial Co., CA .......... 2 Agnes May Adkins b: 7 Jan 1872 in Massac Co., Illinois .............. +Orin B. Verbrick m: 24 Nov 1888 .......... 2 Isabelle Adkins b: 23 May 1873 in Massac Co., Illinois d: Sep 1973 in Wetumka, Hughes Co., Oklahoma Fact 4: Social Security #: 343-38-3811 Fact 5: Last residence: CA 94550 Fact 6: State of issue: IL .............. +Jeff D. Smith m: 17 Nov 1888 .......... 2 BENJAMIN L. ADKINS b: 28 Apr 1876 in Massac Co., IL d: 27 Sep 1955 in Wetumka, Hughes Co., OK .............. +Anna Lee Mays d: 1899 Fact 1: Died during child birth or soon after .......... *2nd Wife of BENJAMIN L. ADKINS: .............. +MINNIE MAY GEORGE b: 19 Feb 1882 in MO m: Bef 1904 d: 19 Feb 1957 in Wetumka, Hughes Co., OK Fact 1: 20 Feb 1957 Buried City Cemetery, Wetumka, Hughes Co., OK .......... 2 William Edward Adkins b: 2 Sep 1878 in Massac Co., Illinois Fact 1: William and Lola were married July 31, 194? .............. +Lola Cook .......... 2 David Walter Adkins b: 31 Mar 1881 in Pope Co., Illinois .............. +Nannie Petty m: 25 Jan 1905 .......... 2 Florence Lillian Adkins b: 12 May 1883 in Massac Co., Illinois d: 13 Feb 1888 in Howell Co., Missouri .......... 2 J.R. Fredrick Adkins b: 10 Feb 1885 in Howell Co., Missouri .............. +Lena Smith m: 6 May 1908 .......... 2 Herbert Oscar Adkins b: 26 Oct 1887 in Howell Co., Missouri d: 17 Apr 1966 in El Centro, Imperial Co., California Fact 1: Helped his father run a store in Medford, Oregon bef it was sold in 1912 Fact 2: When he got his share of the store when it was sold, he bought a Ford Model-T Fact 3: He knew Spanish and went to Mexico for awhile Fact 4: Ran for High Lodge Grand Mason 33rd, but lost Fact 5: Got a loan & bought a Hut Mobile, took passengers from ElCentro to Calexico Fact 6: Served in WWI, California, Wagoner, 1 Engineer TN .............. +Elizabeth F. Adkins b: 1884 d: 1953 in El Centro, Imperial Co., California .......... 2 Laura Edith Adkins b: 20 Feb 1889 .......... 2 Loyd Samuel Adkins b: 14 Jan 1891 in Fulton Co., Arkansas .............. +Ruth Merrick m: 16 Apr 1912 .......... 2 Sophia Myrtle Adkins b: 19 Mar 1893 in Ellis Co., Texas d: 10 Jun 1893 .......... 2 John Charles Adkins b: 13 Sep 1895 in Harris Co., Texas d: Nov 1985 Fact 1: Helped his father run a store in Medford, Oregon bef it was sold in 1912 Fact 2: Tried to out run a train in Medford, OR in 1911 and the train hit his motorcycle Fact 3: At the time of the accident, his leg was broke and knee was crushed. Fact 4: Social Security #: 560-18-6074 Fact 5: Last residence: CA 91770 Fact 6: State of issue: CA Fact 7: Zip of last payment: 91770 .............. +Louise Johnson Thanx, Melinda Pennington

Wasn't the Wannette doctor's name SANDERS?� I can check it out further if anyone's interested. �Beth Little Dr. Ball was the doctor when my grandmother was having her children there (1930 & 1940's). Some years later Dr. Coughlin was doctor while I grew up in Wanette. I've never heard of Dr. Sanders but I'll ask my mother. A friend of mine acquired alot of Dr. Ball's old patient records going back very far. He gave my mother her birth records and other childhood records. It was very interesting. Melinda Pitts - Pennington Wanette native

Good Morning, I saw your lookup list this morning and saw that I was on your list OXFORD. First and foremost I want to thank you for your help and time. If you have found information I will gladly send you a check for you help. It makes it rough when your out of the state that you need information from. I started my research about 6 months ago and to date on the CATE side of the family I have over 6,000 family listed back to the 1600's along with the documentation. But the OXFORD side had hit a wall at JOHN COLLINS OXFORD, so I was hoping that somewhere down the line Census, Birth etc records may show where he was from. The word was that his mother was full blood cherokee, so I have searched Northern, Southern, but no luck. I have been ill and unable to do my work ( I own a computer Company) so this has been real good therapy ( except for the hair loss, not sure if it's from frustration of walls or the chemo :) ) One has to keep their sense of humor, right.. Again, I wish to thank you and all of the wonderful people of Oklahoma that are helping me in my research from afar. God willing I hope that I can make it to Oklahoma in the future. Thank you, Debbie Oxford Long

i may not be smart but i am persistant..do you recon bird or byrd wright was a nick name i understand he married a mary ralston any help..

Hi -- the most knowledgeable person around these parts on Oklahoma gangs is Glenn Shirley. He lives here in Stillwater, OK. You could purchase a copy of his book (he has written many) by contacting Caravan Books 620 South Main Stillwater, OK 74075 they may also have an e-mail number, but I don't know what it is. Enjoy! Mary Bryant Park

This is what my Lookup sheet/notebook looks like, I keep a hard copy of the original lookup request for particulars. WARD: 1890/1896 Census Coleman WARD, Choctaw KING: 1910 Census James N. KING (see note) LOVELL: Newspapers OKC Times Nov. 5, 1960 Emily Ellen LOVELL. OKC Times May 3, 1946 William Henry LOVELL STILL: WPA INDEX Beaver County 24 Jan 1915 (see letter, PAID for copies) PHELPS/NADIER (see letter PAID for copies.) MILLER: Newspapers OKC/Garfield Co. Oct 5 1931 Osten E. MILLER OKC/Garvin Co. Nov 17, 1991 Lloyd MILLER WPA Index: Dec 25, 1908 Catherine MILLER OWEN: Newspapers/WPA index: Shawnee/Guthrie Oct. 3, 1906 Harvey Donald OWEN LEMASTER: Newspapers/WPA index: OKC Times May 10, 1917 Earnest Earl LEMASTER TURNER: Indian Archives Intruder list DOC 31392 (see note) OXFORD: Indian Archives/Census 1896 Choctaw Nation LOCKE: Indian Archives Choctaw Rolls DARDENNE: Indian Archives Quapaw Rolls. STITT: Indian Archives Miami Rolls BOAZMAN: Cemetary List Microfilm for Gracemont/Chickasha WPA Index only names: PLUE (1920-1930) WESTBROOK (1910) CROCKER (1925) LUCAS (ALL) Other: Condry School, Chelsea OK. Train Accident, Krebs OK, Pittsburg County, 1920's Fire June 27, 1900 Sabra LEDFORD. Names on permanent list other than family: GREENLEE BOAZMAN A note on the WPA Index: (I figure someone will ask) The WPA index is a MASSIVE index of all newspapers in the Oklahoma archives before 1940. If a date for a newspaper lookup comes across my sights, I set it into AT LEAST a WPA index lookup. Frequently, I cannot get to a microfilm reader either in the Library or the Newspaper room, so I take my "WPA list and my "other" list and work on that. I go to the OHS almost daily, except weekends, unless I am in the mood to fight the crowds on Saturday. I usually do my lookups in this order: MONDAY: Census TUES: Newspapers WEDS: Indian Archives (if I have any) THURS: Books FRIDAY Newspapers I spend 3-4 hours there in the morning, Sometimes I return Monday afternoon because it is the one day they are open late. (til 8 pm) And before you ask...yes....it is an obsession. 8) Nalora

There is a Museum in Coffeeville, kA. that is dedicated to the Dalton Gang. Vickie Neill Taylor flip@chickasaw.com

LOOK UP GUIDELINES (Or how to get your name to the top of the stack) A *Lookup* is NOT Research, it is just what it says: a lookup. I (or anyone else doing the lookup) am just your legs. You live far away or can not get to the resource and the information I *MIGHT* be able to find will push you a little ahead in *your* research. 1. FOCUS your search by ANALYZING your data. If I am forced to analyze your data for you, I will put your name at the bottom of my list until I have time to analyze it. Think: What do I WANT?? What EVENT? i.e., BIRTH, MARRIAGE, DEATH, other. on WHO? Choose a family MEMBER, not an entire family. Which Family member will give you the most information? What data is missing on that family member? Think: Where would *I* go to find this information if I were in a genealogical library? NEWSPAPERS, BOOKS, CENSUS, INDIAN ARCHIVES, ETC. 2. *After* you have done the above, try to complete as much information as you can. LOOKUP your city and see what COUNTY it is in. the Web site: http://www.itools.com/research-it/ has a GEOGRAPHICAL section which will take you to a searchable GAZETTEER run by the US Census Dept. 3. Be consise and organized in your Lookup request. Put SURNAMES in caps. _______________________________________________________________________ Here is a sample of a good Lookup request: SOURCE: Newspapers (or census/books/Indian archives) EVENT: obit (or other event) PERSON: SMITH, John Jacob Jingleheimer DATES: d. Jan 3, 1910 PLACE: Shawnee, OK, Pottawatamie county Other info that might help lookup person: Give details that you think might help here. Died in a fire, etc. for Census lookups family details, wife, children would go here. _________________________________________________________________________ If you want a HARD COPY, then you will have to send me a SASE and 1 dollar in the mail. My info is on the OKGenWeb site. I do pick up lookups in the list as I see something I might find for that person, but if you send me a private email, with the words LOOKUP in the subject line it will get my attention faster. In the next post I will show you what is on my lookup list right now. Nalora (another thing that gets you *permanent* status on my lookup list and will make me go to the ends of the earth for you is if you have discovered you are KIN to me, or are researching the same NAMES in the same area I am)

Rosebud, I asked for info on Apperson in Osage County. Are you familiar with that area? Beth Litle

At 07:58 AM 9/26/98 EDT, Bravewmn@aol.com wrote: >this is an email for Masonic info that may help you find info on Shrine >Temples in the US<A HREF="http://www.freemasonry.org/">E.-M@SON</A> Their >website is www.freemasonry.org/ Sharon Crawford, the person who does OKBits lives in Guthrie. Send her an Email, I bet she could find it in her local phone book. Nalora

At 07:51 AM 9/26/98 EDT, Bravewmn@aol.com wrote: >I see Curtis DAWSON listed as a member of the COOK gang. MyGreatgrandfathe, >ROBERT TURNER married Alice Jane DAWSON in Olkmulgee. Do you know how I could >find out if Alice was related to CURTIS? If she is a sister or relative, something of her might show up in a Newspaper of the time. Nalora

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_906832876_boundary Content-ID: <0_906832876@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I'm glad this was posted, because the use of an Atlas means you get more than just NAMES of places. I believe the history book idea is also a very good one. With an Atlas, ofcourse, you can locate places in ALL of the STATES and you can SEE WHERE your ancestors spent there lives, no matter how often they moved. In a message dated 9/26/98 10:30:08 AM, morgana@ghg.net wrote: <<Another reason why you really need an atlas: You can write on it...draw lines from one community or another, study the geography, even mark known locations of people within a general area...They are useful to keep with your gen research materials... The internet has some great mapping resources...I keep some of the best ones bookmarked...but you can't beat pouring over an atlas from time to time...especially in areas with rugged terrain. Another great resource you really can't beat, but we forget about all the time are state history books - the type they study in HS, or better yet, in college. They are invaluable for understanding the early settlement patterns in a state, and often answer some of the questions about why people moved where when they did. And if you can find an old economic history textbook, grab it...it will give you clues to things like when depressions happened (often caused people to move), when railroads were built or major strikes happened...or oil was discovered in an area...all these can come in handy trying to figure out where to look next... Sue morgana@ghg.net >> --part0_906832876_boundary Content-ID: <0_906832876@inet_out.mail.ghg.net.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <morgana@ghg.net> Received: from rly-ya01.mx.aol.com (rly-ya01.mail.aol.com [172.18.144.193]) by air-ya01.mail.aol.com (v50.15) with SMTP; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:30:08 -0400 Received: from mailman.ghg.net (mailman.ghg.net [206.29.116.30]) by rly-ya01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id NAA06614 for <Mingzmom@aol.com>; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ghg.net (max6-57.ghg.net [206.66.110.57]) by mailman.ghg.net (8.9.1/8.9.1/GHG 1.2) with ESMTP id MAA24639; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:18:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <360D2471.7CAC0312@ghg.net> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:29:21 -0500 From: Sue <morgana@ghg.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) To: Mingzmom@aol.com CC: OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OKROOTS-L] Buy an atlas! References: <ac89930a.360d11c5@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Mingzmom@aol.com wrote: > > I have a very inexpensive idea for those of you who don't know where the > cities and counties, etc. are in Oklahoma. Go to a USED BOOK STORE and buy > yourself an old ATLAS. It can be one put out by one of the oil companies, > etc. -- just be certain it has an INDEX. I bought one for $2, which was > printed in the 1970's, and it has been a lifesaver for ALL the STATES. You > can look up CITIES AND COUNTIES, RIVERS, HISTORICAL POINTS OF INTEREST, > BATTLEFIELDS, ETC. The internet is great, but we can still fall back on the > old ways to save time and money. > C. Shanahan Another reason why you really need an atlas: You can write on it...draw lines from one community or another, study the geography, even mark known locations of people within a general area...They are useful to keep with your gen research materials... The internet has some great mapping resources...I keep some of the best ones bookmarked...but you can't beat pouring over an atlas from time to time...especially in areas with rugged terrain. Another great resource you really can't beat, but we forget about all the time are state history books - the type they study in HS, or better yet, in college. They are invaluable for understanding the early settlement patterns in a state, and often answer some of the questions about why people moved where when they did. And if you can find an old economic history textbook, grab it...it will give you clues to things like when depressions happened (often caused people to move), when railroads were built or major strikes happened...or oil was discovered in an area...all these can come in handy trying to figure out where to look next... Sue morgana@ghg.net --part0_906832876_boundary--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_906826727_boundary Content-ID: <0_906826727@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII GOOD IDEA. HOWEVER, I FOUND IT IN 2 SECONDS VIA THIS LIST. --part0_906826727_boundary Content-ID: <0_906826727@inet_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <OKROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (rly-zb01.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.1]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v50.15) with SMTP; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:11:45 -0400 Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id MAA22262; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09082; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 09:10:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Mingzmom@aol.com Message-ID: <ac89930a.360d11c5@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:09:41 EDT Old-To: OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Subject: [OKROOTS-L] Buy an atlas! Resent-Message-ID: <"vUsx_D.A.sNC.uHRD2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/564 X-Loop: OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: OKROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I have a very inexpensive idea for those of you who don't know where the cities and counties, etc. are in Oklahoma. Go to a USED BOOK STORE and buy yourself an old ATLAS. It can be one put out by one of the oil companies, etc. -- just be certain it has an INDEX. I bought one for $2, which was printed in the 1970's, and it has been a lifesaver for ALL the STATES. You can look up CITIES AND COUNTIES, RIVERS, HISTORICAL POINTS OF INTEREST, BATTLEFIELDS, ETC. The internet is great, but we can still fall back on the old ways to save time and money. C. Shanahan --part0_906826727_boundary--

I have a very inexpensive idea for those of you who don't know where the cities and counties, etc. are in Oklahoma. Go to a USED BOOK STORE and buy yourself an old ATLAS. It can be one put out by one of the oil companies, etc. -- just be certain it has an INDEX. I bought one for $2, which was printed in the 1970's, and it has been a lifesaver for ALL the STATES. You can look up CITIES AND COUNTIES, RIVERS, HISTORICAL POINTS OF INTEREST, BATTLEFIELDS, ETC. The internet is great, but we can still fall back on the old ways to save time and money. C. Shanahan

go to http://www.findagrave.com/grave/lok.html Emmett Dalton and his wife are shown and so is Ma Barker, fascinating.