How come none of you folks told me I was off a day, I've been goin' around all day today thinking it is Thursday!! MAN I hate that when that happens. Nalora shuffles off singing...*if I only had a brain...*

Subject: Cemeteries/Pawnee/Fairfax Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:06:23 -0700 From: Rose Adams <rosebud@cctrap.com> To: OK-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Nalora: I don't know if you have information on all of OK., or just a certain part. I'm having a dickens of a time finding where my hubby's grandparents are buried. They were in Pawnee, Pawnee Co. in 1910, he was 70 and she was 67. The grandkids were born in Pawnee and Fairfax and before that in MO. The name is Adams. Benjamin Franklin Adams (known as Frank or Franklin) and wife Lodusky Jane Cummins Adams. And while were on the subject, do you think Lodusky is an indian name? Some relatives say she was indian. It's an odd name for a given name, don't you think? I saw on one of the indian rolls Lo-Du-Sky. I know they can't be alive, so they are down there somewhere. Hope you can offer some suggestions. Rose Adams in CA.

Okay, who's gonna tell me what (consumption ) is, when they speak of people dying from it? Believe it or not, I am going to be a medical transcriptionist. Deb

Sometimes you go to have a little fun, and you come up with a good resource. I looked in the WPA index for The Cherokee Strip Stockman's Association and stopped jotting articles to look up at 10--there are many many more listed in the index. I went to the Microfilm drawyers where "The Cheyenne Transporter" Newspapers were kept. (this was the one with the most mentions in the WPA index) WHAT A WONDERFUL NEWSPAPER!! This is a gem of an early newspaper, and no wonder, all those tired cowboys looking for news of loved ones back home, wanting to know how the drives are going. You can almost see it all ragged and dusty in the back pocket of some one's trousers, he takes it out, leaned up against his horse as he watches the cattle cross the Cherokee Strip....and begins to search for news from home. ANYONE who has family that was in the drives should search this paper. WONDERFUL tidbits and bio notes. FANTASTIC obits! Super dupereeno articles about range life AND in a GOOD state of preservation on Microfilm!!! All this in a widely read VERY EARLY (1880 - 1900) paper (follow the cattle trail from Texas up through the center of what is now Oklahoma into Kansas and there you have the circulation of this paper!! Oh it was thrilling to read even little portions of it!! My goodness, I almost forgot...the paper is very INDIAN sympathetic, in fact I did not look at it close enough today, but for all I know the editor was and Indian. (who was that guy in early history....he came from GA where he ran the paper and started the first Indian paper here....have to look that up) Anyway, I am going to ask if the leases are kept in Indian Archives. This is a possibility. I copied just one article pertaining to the Cherokee Strip Stock Association if anyone wants it. Nalora

Does anyone have any experience with, or knowledge of, portable microfilm readers?

This came off the Quaker-Roots list. Hope you all enjoy! **************************************************************************** **************** Resent-Sender: CountyCork-L-request@rootsweb.com YOU KNOW YOU ARE A GENEALOGY ADDICT WHEN... You brake for libraries. You hyper ventilate at the sight of an old cemetery. You would rather browse in a cemetery than a shopping mall. You would rather read census schedules than a good book. You are more interested in what happened in 1697 than 1997. Moses, Dorcus, and Caleb are household names, but you cannot remember what to call the dog. You can pinpoint Sewickely, McKeesport, Evans City, (PA) but can't locate your state capital on the map. You think every home should have a copier and a microfilm reader. You know every register of deeds in the state by name, but they lock the doors when they see you coming. You store your clothes under the bed, because your closet is full of books and papers. All your correspondence begins "Dear Cousin". You have traced every one of your ancestral lines back to Adam Eve, have it documented and still don't want to quit.

vashti@theshop.net and OKROOTS -- can someone do a lookup for me please. Years ago when I started doing this and didn't know what I was doing -- kinda like now!! I copyed down the obit of my great-grandmother Lavonia Antionette COUCH COUCH TEAL -- She was born a COUCH. Married a COUCH & then a TEAL. The point is I am not sure I copied it right (from the Broken Bow News 22 Jan 1931. In the 2nd paragraph I have quote: Deceased, who was the widow of the late L.A. TEAL, was a splendid lady... What is confusing to me now is did I accidently write L.A. which were her initials and used in the heading where it said. Mrs. L. A. TEAL, aged .... or did the newspaper make the mistake. Any help in determing the true story would be a great help. I have not been able to find her husband's name Teal. Nor have I been able to find where my GGrandfather is buried or where he died. Warren Jackson COUCH ALL HELP APPRECIATED!!! KAY COUCH-LOPEZ

Is anyone looking for documentation of Indian Heritage on THOMAS CATES Cherokee or JOSEPH CATES Creek: THOMAS CATES: b. 1859 parents: mother: NARCISSA CATES father: THOMAS CATES. Living in Indian Terr. 1880 JOSEPH CATES: b. 1840 parents; mother: HARRIET CATES father: JEFF CATES CREEK NATION: On one of the land records it shows a public cemetery on the property in Big Spring, Indian Terr. Township is 19 range 11 dated 1901.

Well, I had entirely toooo many sighs this morning as I looked around trying to collect a few dead relatives. Sometimes I think these people don't want to be found, or the time is not right for them to be found, or...well you catch my drift. Some people think I am really experiences at Geneaology, but really I am not. I have not been doing it very long, I just catch onto things quick, and have been a researcher of other things, and researching one thing is not that much difference than researching others, It takes time, patience, footwork, bookwork and A LOT of analysis. I do know a great deal about Oklahoma, since my relatives have been here for so long, and because Oklahoma History is a required subject for High School graduation in this State. I have also read a great many books, and visited a lot of the State's historical sites and all that, so I pick up a lot of things. I still have, and make reference to my High School Oklahoma History book when I have forgotten something. It is Oklahoma: The story of its past and present by Edwin C. McReynolds. 1961 I have seen three of them on the shelf at my neighborhood library. But to tell you the honest-to-God truth, I am just learning, like most of you, I trod along...picking my way through piles and piles of paper, sometimes I find stuff, sometimes...it is a wash out. I have never gotten around to doing much Land Deed/Run/Allotment work. I think it is because there was just so much number business I still was not sure of and I spent a great deal of my time doing census work, newspapers and books til I had more "easy facts" to go on. But finding my great grandfather's old land deeds made me think about it and then I got real curious. What I found was a mother lode of information. Doing my own land will help me I am certain to help others via lookups for this information. One request came in to me to look up JACKSON in Kiowa County land run stuff so I finally got over there to that section of the library. Found out there is a nice library assistant there who specializes in that stuff. I will have to memorize his work schedule so I know when he is there and plan my lookups around him being there. Anyway, I did not find a lot this morning, and I am going to run up there and do some Newspaper work to soothe my wounded ego this afternoon. (I love Newspapers) The people in the Newspaper room are the bestest bunch in the whole place to, in my opinion. here is my *sniff pout* run down of lookups this morning: JACKSON: Learned a great deal. Will email you COMBES None listed in Kingfisher History book. None listed in the cemetaries available at OHS. (the Kingfisher section is sadly lacking some one needs to go down there and see what is up with those people.) There is a sweeet little book tho called: "Echoes of 89" Printed in 1939 By the Kingfisher Times and Freepress If you can find this book, I think it would really be a little pot of Gold for you. It is unindexed, but a delightful piece of work. BOAZMAN/HAWN No reader available. GROSS: Your cemetary list is on Microfiche, no reader available. There is a very well done History of Kiowa County, however it is un-indexed. CLARK: One Robert with wrong date in Cemetary books. Did find some other Clarks that I copied. will email you. WRIGHT: No Tom but did find an Emma will email you. PAYNE: Beckham county is also sadly lacking. Go down there and whup up on some folks!! Nalora

At 06:52 PM 9/30/98 +0200, Candace Biamonti wrote: >Hi, >Does anyone know how I can get a more complete list of the Colbert Garden of >Memory Cemetery? I have a partial list with my Standerfers but on the map >it says that there are Boles also buried there in section 10. I would love >to find traces of my Boles! What county is it in? Nalora

Following is the URL for my GEDCOM, just summitted to the net for your viewing and searching pleasure http://www.my-ged.com/hendersn/ Have fun and enjoy. Lisa Henderson

Does anyone know of a SLATERS Funeral Home in Coalgate Area. ? And a Rev. Lee R. Newberry Thank you Debbie Oxford Long

I am looking for any information on Rosa Mae Christian b. 1888 in Tx, daughter of Henry H. Christian and Ida Coleman Christian.She married William Vascar Christian ca 1908.Vascar and Rosa lived in Kiowa Co., but she divorced him and was living with her father in 1920 in McCurtain Co. Ok. Later in her life she married John Thomas and died in Idabel after residing in Broken Bow for many years. She had a son in 1905/1907 named Robert Lloyd Christian ( my line) but I can not find who he was living with. He is not on the 1910 or 1920 census with his mother or Grandfather Henry. His death certificate says his fathers name is James Christian. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Carol

Hi, Does anyone know how I can get a more complete list of the Colbert Garden of Memory Cemetery? I have a partial list with my Standerfers but on the map it says that there are Boles also buried there in section 10. I would love to find traces of my Boles! Thanks, Candy in Windy Roma

Hi, Does anyone know how I can get a more complete list of the Colbert Garden of Memory Cemetery? I have a partial list with my Standerfers but on the map it says that there are Boles also buried there in section 10. I would love to find traces of my Boles! Thanks, Candy in Windy Roma

If anyone wants the mid for this song it's on the county page at. Washita Co.OK http://www.rootsweb.com/~okwashit/ County Coordinator for Washita Co., OK Pauline Vashti wrote: > At 08:03 PM 9/29/98 -0700, Dave Gardner wrote: > >Yep. My Dad was born in Oklahoma. He was always singing the song that had > >the lines "in those Oklahoma hills where I was born". > > hrm... > > *singing* Way down yonder on the indian nation, I left my pappy on the > reservation, in them Oklahoma hills where I was I was born.... > > Nalora -- The Past is History. The Future is a Mystery. Today is a Gift, that's why we call it the present. **************************************** Pauline [Neeley] Phelps Bakersfield CA 93304 ========================================== Neeley Web Site http://www.genweb.net/~neeley/ Washita Co.OK URL http://www.rootsweb.com/~okwashit/ http://www.genweb.net/~tucker/ =========================================== Mail lists - NEELEY'S - NEELEY-L@ROOTSWEB.COM PRYOR'S - PRYOR-L@ROOTSWEB.COM FOUNTAIN/FOUNTAINE- FOUNTAINE-L@ROOTSWEB.COM KEMPERS - kempers@makelist.com Audrian Co., MO audraincomo@makelist.com Camden Co., MO camdencomo@makelist.com ************************************************** http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/5716/index.html

Thank you all! I will now try to find something. Nothing else of my long family list rang a bell with anyone? Candy in cloudy Roma.

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At 08:21 PM 9/29/98 -0700, ednix@Pacbell.net wrote: >I noticed the following line in Nalora's plans for the week under census >lookups: > >WILEY: Wm S 1900 1910 IT and Oklahoma Census lookup. b. IL > >MY great aunt JESSIE WILLIAMS married a WILEY and I think they ended up >in COLORADO. Any connection? So far on my lookups I have had 2 people researching WILEY Shirley Denney is in Haskell, Wagoner and Muskogee. Nalora

At 08:03 PM 9/29/98 -0700, Dave Gardner wrote: >Yep. My Dad was born in Oklahoma. He was always singing the song that had >the lines "in those Oklahoma hills where I was born". hrm... *singing* Way down yonder on the indian nation, I left my pappy on the reservation, in them Oklahoma hills where I was I was born.... Nalora