Does anyone know who the little community of Story, Okla. (near Maysville, Okla.) was named after? There was a general store at the crossroads there, that was about all I recall. This was back in the early 60's. I'm sure the community had been there for sometime before that. I believe this is in Garvin County. Carolyn Lamb

Is officer Pyle a friend or family member? How long ago did you live here? Jean -----Original Message----- From: ALoy106018@aol.com <ALoy106018@aol.com> To: j3an@flash.net <j3an@flash.net> Date: Saturday, October 03, 1998 10:57 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [OKROOTS-L] Capital Hill >Well Jean >Don't mow I am In iowa and cant see it >You just dont notice when i dont shovel the sidewalk for the snow and I won't >notice when You don't mow >Glad to speak with You >If you ever get stopped by a cop last named Pyle don't tell him that you >spoke to me or you will certainly recieve a ticket >Just Kidding >Angela >

I've been fascinated by the discussion of Capital Hill, even though I don't have much to contribute. I would sure love to learn more about a close friend of my family who moved from Luther [in the northeastern part of Oklahoma Co.] to Capitol Hill in the early 1920s.... Her maiden name was Mamie Blanche ARCHER [1889 - 1924]. She married Otto Gratz NORMAN [1881 - 1920]. After his death, she moved to Capitol Hill where she taught school. She was killed in a car-train accident at Luther in 1924, along with my Ggranduncle. According to the obit published by the Luther Register [yes, I do have that obit], she was principal at Capitol Hill then. My family simply called her Mrs. Norman. Her tombstone reads "Archer Norman". I'm not sure what name she used at Capitol Hill. On the surface, I realize that this doesn't seem to have much to do with genealogy -- she was relatively young when she died [over 20 years before I was born] and had no children that I know of. Many times, though, I've found a great deal of information about my own ancestors when looking at collateral lines and family friends. In this particular case, Mamie Blanche ARCHER NORMAN had a profound influence on my life. WIthout her example, I probably wouldn't be on the Internet today -- much less discussing genealogy. [I don't want to subject the list to the long version of this story, but will certainly share it off-list if you're curious.] Sharon McAllister 73372.1745@compuserve.com

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AE8B6E7E9429654C5645CEE6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, Capitol Hill (part of Okla. City) is still in existence. The main part is on S.W. 25th Street, between Walker and Shields Blvd. Still a few businesses there. Mostly Hispanic now. The Capitol Hill Baptist Church has moved to S.W. 129 th.East of Western Ave.( in the Moore, Okla. area). The old Baptist church in Capitol Hill is now also a Hispanic Church. The fringe area of Capitol Hill extends West to Western, South to about Grand Avenue, North to about S.W.32nd, East to Shields. This is an approximate area. I don't know why it is called Capitol Hill. It doesn't lie flat like most of Okla.City, and does seem to be in a hilly area. Probably isn't the reason for the name. Carolyn Lamb Moore, Ok. --------------AE8B6E7E9429654C5645CEE6 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by aqua.ilinkusa.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA01497 for <alamb@ilinkusa.net>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:21:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA09122; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT) From: WCook14024@aol.com Message-ID: <a556fbad.3616880d@aol.com> Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:24:45 EDT Old-To: OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OKROOTS-L] Capitol Hill Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <"FPJ3L.A.SOC.1goF2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/833 X-Loop: OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: OKROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com In a message dated 10/3/98 12:07:55 PM Central Daylight Time, jlittle@telepath.com writes: << Since we have several folks on this morning, does anyone have anything to add about early day Oklahoma City or Capitol Hill? Jean supplied me with some interesting things a while back, but wondered if anyone else might have something to add. Our LITTLEs, WOLFs, HISELs and NEEDHAMs all settled in the Capitol Hill area in the early 1900's. I'm interested in anything. It seems to add to the 'color' of our family's history. Appreciate it! You guys are just full of informaton. Love reading all your info exchanges. >> Well if I remember my Okla. History correctly, GUTHRIE OKLA. was the original capital. Bill Cook --------------AE8B6E7E9429654C5645CEE6--

At 09:38 AM 10/3/98 EDT, Bravewmn@aol.com wrote: >Thanks to your wonderful curiosity, Nalora. My library did not have the book, >Law West of Ft. Smith, so I have asked for an interlibrary loan. If I can't >get it that way< I will try to purchase it. I have limited funds as does >everyone, so I hope the library can get it for me. Thanks again. You could go interstate library loan. Tell them you know it is in the OKC main public library. 8) Nalora

Keota is near Stigler and is in Haskell County Coweta is near Tulsa

I live just west of there. Sure they are best hot dogs in the world, at one time they were in a building on the north side of 25th street. In the same block but a little further east. Ate luch there when I went to Capitol Hill Jr. High. Do you know where the old Capitol Hill hospital building at 24th and Harvey is? I'm the one that doesn't mow it often enough. Jean -----Original Message----- From: Vashti <vashti@theshop.net> To: OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 03, 1998 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [OKROOTS-L] Capital Hill >At 04:55 PM 10/3/98 EDT, PPeter4914@aol.com wrote: >>Hi ! All the years growing up in Oklahoma City, the area between Shields Blvd >>on the East and Western on the West, about SW 22 on the North side and SW 36 >>on the South was always referred to as Capital Hill. The borders may not be >>exactly accurate but they are fairly close. Maybe someone out there actually >>knows the exact borders. >> > >Well I live there and I don't but you are darn close. Commerce Street or SW >25th Street is the old main street of Capital Hill. I never knew why it was >called Capital Hill, and did not see the earlier posts. > >I do know that if you go down Commerce to about Walker, there is a real good >Coney Island Hot Dog place. Best Hot dogs in town, IMHO. > >I also can point out all the old movie theatres, and I know their names. The >Redskin Theatre was on SW 29th near Western, I saw great monster movies >there when I was a kid. > >The Knob Hill Theatre was on Commerce near the top of the hill, guess it >would be Walker or Shartel and the Yale Theatre was on a cross street but I >am not sure now which one. > >The theatre buildings are still there now, they just are no longer movie >theatres. > >Nalora > >

Boy did I turn up a hornets nest on this one. So Sorry, I must have the wrong county. I stand corrected and I hope I did give anyone a bum steer. BUT Koeta and Coweta are still one and the same. Vickie Neill Taylor flip@chickasaw.com ---------- > From: PHYLLIS MURPHY <hiphy@usa.net> > To: OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [[OKROOTS-L] Keota = Coweta] > Date: Saturday, October 03, 1998 8:43 AM > > I always hate it when someone disagrees with someone else and then it > starts an arguement. I live in Broken Arrow , Oklahoma. I actually live > between Broken Arrow and Coweta. As you see , someone posted below that > Coweta was in Haskell Co. This is wrong. Coweta is in Wagoner Co. Before > Oklahoma divided all of the Counties up. Coweta was actually in Tulsa > District and was viving with Tulsa to become the county seat. Well Tulsa won, > and then Coweta then became part of Wagoner county and Wagoner became the > county seat. Coweta is actually larger than Wagoner it even has its own > WalMart Store. It has quite a large school, because so many people live there > and work in Tulsa. I have the Telephone directory for Coweta and Wagoner if > someone needs me to look up a name or number. > Phyllis > > > > OKROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > I am sorry, and yes, I do know better or should.... Woodley is or was in > Craig County, Oklahoma. > > Broken Bow--McCurtain County > Checotah--McIntosh County > Keota--Haskell County > Klondike Cemetery--Garvin or Grant Counties > Foss--Washita County > Mountain Park--Kiowa County > > This came up not long ago, Keota is now spelled Coweta. Some of the old > buildings still have Koeta but the post office among others, says Coweta. > And it is in Haskell County. > > Vickie Neill Taylor > flip@chickasaw.com > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

I don't have a Oma Dunlap but I have about 50 dunlap names you might check my names in case there is a connection http://www.my-ged.com/long/ Thanks Evelyn Long Lillie Davis wrote: > > Looking for information on Oma Dunlap who married a Davis, George or > George Oscar, or Oscar or?? Her parents were Peter Dunlap and Sallie > Greer. Oma and Davis had 2 children born in Farris , Ok, William Oscar > Davis born 9-18-1913 and Fannie May born in Farris , Ok, 7-19-1908. Oma > either divorced Davis or was widowed by 1920. Davis did die before 1920 > in a prison, would like to know where and when. Oma remarried John L. > Higgins and they had one child, LeRoy Higgins. > William Oscar married Clara Etta Mangus on 4-1-1933 in Arkinda, Arkansas > and Fannie May married Cecil O.Jones on 3-5-1928 in Clarksville, Texas. > Looking for information on any of these people and their ancestors. If > you have any information to share please feel free to e-mail me at > coupons@wizzards.net.

Looking for information on Oma Dunlap who married a Davis, George or George Oscar, or Oscar or?? Her parents were Peter Dunlap and Sallie Greer. Oma and Davis had 2 children born in Farris , Ok, William Oscar Davis born 9-18-1913 and Fannie May born in Farris , Ok, 7-19-1908. Oma either divorced Davis or was widowed by 1920. Davis did die before 1920 in a prison, would like to know where and when. Oma remarried John L. Higgins and they had one child, LeRoy Higgins. William Oscar married Clara Etta Mangus on 4-1-1933 in Arkinda, Arkansas and Fannie May married Cecil O.Jones on 3-5-1928 in Clarksville, Texas. Looking for information on any of these people and their ancestors. If you have any information to share please feel free to e-mail me at coupons@wizzards.net.

-----Original Message----- From: ClydePars@aol.com <ClydePars@aol.com> To: OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <OKROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, October 03, 1998 3:23 PM Subject: [OKROOTS-L] Check out Oklahoma Census Records > <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/census.htm">Click here: Oklahoma >Census Records</A> > >Don't know if this has been shown before, but here is a useful site. > > If clicking doesn' work here is site address: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/census.htm > This is a great site!!! Thanks for the info. Maruss searching for surnames, Jackson, Gurley, Jerden, Parsons, Capps, and my brick wall, Mike Kinney in OK.

sharon, this may be a bit far fetched concerning the name "lodusky", but here goes. i was researching my feltnor family and one of the names was samantha lodviska robinson. i asked on the internet (german site) what ethnic group was lodviska? i will quote from the answer. " lodviska is slavic. polish, russian, ect. it is probably a surname." this is only part of the answer i received. if you want the intire reply, let me know- gerry andrews. ps. maybe it is indian. Sharon McAllister wrote: > Rose Adams wrote: > > > The name is Adams. Benjamin Franklin Adams (known as > > Frank or Franklin) and wife Lodusky Jane Cummins Adams. And while were > > on the subject, do you think Lodusky is an indian name? Some relatives > > say she was indian. It's an odd name for a given name, don't you think? > > I saw on one of the indian rolls Lo-Du-Sky. I know they can't be alive, > > so they are down there somewhere. > > I don't have the answer, but I'd be interested in hearing any theories. > > We have a Martha Lodeski Simmons, spelled differently but sounds much the > same. I'd thought that she was a widow when she homesteaded, that Lodeski > was her maiden name and Simmons the name of her first husband. Then I > found out that her mother's name was Amanda Simmons. Talked with my mother > about it and she thinks that Lodeski was a family name used as a middle > name. If this line had Indian blood, we don't know about it. > > At any rate, the name Lodeski was certainly important to her, because she > went by the nickname Dosky. > > Sharon McAllister > 73372.1745@compuserve.com

I do have the book GHOST TOWNS OF OKLAHOMA, and have found it to be a valuable reference -- but it doesn't include some early day communities I know about, ones that seem to have disappeared without a trace. These were probably too small, or disappeared too long ago, to have qualified for inclusion in this book. I'm searching Oklahoma, Lincoln, and Logan counties. I did find Garnettville, Servado, and Tohee on the 1895 Atlas -- but it does not show Kickapoo [which would have been near the Oklahoma/Lincoln Co. line] or Garden [which was in southeastern Logan Co]. Can anyone recommend other references? Sharon McAllister 73372.1745@compuserve.com

I missed the original message on Bokchito. Then saw another one about a cemetery. My family the THOMPSONS and DEATONS lived in this area in the 1880-1910's. There is a small community and cemetery called Pleasant Hill near there. If anyone has anyone records that has these surnames I'd be very interested. Thank you, Kelly Rose Hall Greenville TX

Does your book happen to mention a Prettywater, or Pretty Water, in CREEK county? My paternal grandparents lived there till the late 50's/early 60's, where they had a small farm, then moved to Sapulpa to retire. Last time I was there, the farmhouse was in bad shape, but still standing.. Makes me wish I'd have taken pictures of it, but I was younger then, and wasn't interested in geneaology... Tom Okiecad@aol.com wrote: > > The only thing that made Gene Autry a "ghost town" was a significant drop in > population. It dropped from over 600 to 120 in 1970 and an estimated 90 in > 1975. This made it a "ghost town" but by all means not gone. > > Information taken from "Ghost Towns of Oklahoma". If anyone needs a lookup in > this book, I'll be glad to. It gives history on about 130 towns that are dead > or dying and some of the individuals who built them. > > This is an excellent book. I've read it cover to cover. > > Joan

<A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/census.htm">Click here: Oklahoma Census Records</A> Don't know if this has been shown before, but here is a useful site. If clicking doesn' work here is site address: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/census.htm

Hi folks, I've been through the e@mason sites and contacted everyone I thought might be of help. Last reply suggested that I contact the Masonic Lodge in Claremore OK. Will someone please look up the address for me. Thans in advance for help. Sherry

A little of the history of Oklahoma On the morning of April 12, 1889, thousands upon thousands of Americans amd forigners from over the entire nation lined up on the borders of what was then known as the Unassigned Lands of the Indian Territory, or the "Oklahoma Country." They came in covered wagons, buggies, and many other conveyances, by horseback, and on foot to mwait with strained anticipation until high noon when the blue-uniformed cavalry troops facing them across the line would give the signal loosing the hors of mankind and horseflesh to make a great, wild dash for 160 acres of free govenment land. Thousands of others climbed aboard and atop railroad trains headed for Oklahoma from all over the nation. The spring-time beauty of the day, with the lush, great landscape lying ever so serenely under a cloudless sky, would long be remembered as the setting for this moment of history as men and women rushed forward to cliam the virgin land. This, essentially, is the way the Run of 1889 has been recorded, and it is a valid picture so far as it goes. But there was so much more to this significant event, so much more that has never been told.... The Rund of 1889 into the original Oklahom Lands was one of the most unique social phenomenons of American history. The magnitude in terms of participants of American History. It indefinite rules which allowed wide interpretation without the benefits of precendent, its peculiarities as a way of occupying a new country, all combines with the insatiable American passion for free land to produce a chaotic, picturesque, and dramatic occurrence unlike anything in man's previous experienc. It was as event of vital consequences to those who participated, yet it was couched almost as a sporting contest. It concocted a situation where honesty was discouraged and dishonesty encourage. It offered reward to connivance, opportunism, political favor, and sometime the brute forms of arms. Even with these things to one side. the Run of 1889 pradicated a major prize of society upon the speed of a person's horse. As the worst the run can be viewed as an act of conglomerated human greed, where citizens dashed frantically about to grab land. At the best it can be seen as a fullfillment of God-fearing citizens who wished to build homes for themselves and for future generations. In truth the Run of 1889 was much of both. Many of those making run were sincere, honest people.who abided by the rules in good faith and refused to enter the Oklahoma country until the appointed hour. There were thosr who cheated badly, some of them succeeding but many losing their claims in the thousand of "sooner" cases which fill the courts following the run. And there were those otherwise honest people who, upon seeing so many others crossing the line early, did like-wise for fear of losing out completely in this "game" which meant so much to themselves and their families. To be continued if you would like to learn more of oklahoma history. Phyllis ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

I'm enjoying your conversation about Gene Autry, but as usual, I'm on a whole different train of thought! lol Since we have several folks on this morning, does anyone have anything to add about early day Oklahoma City or Capitol Hill? Jean supplied me with some interesting things a while back, but wondered if anyone else might have something to add. Our LITTLEs, WOLFs, HISELs and NEEDHAMs all settled in the Capitol Hill area in the early 1900's. I'm interested in anything. It seems to add to the 'color' of our family's history. Appreciate it! You guys are just full of informaton. Love reading all your info exchanges. Beth & Jim Little jlittle@telepath.com

Hi ! All the years growing up in Oklahoma City, the area between Shields Blvd on the East and Western on the West, about SW 22 on the North side and SW 36 on the South was always referred to as Capital Hill. The borders may not be exactly accurate but they are fairly close. Maybe someone out there actually knows the exact borders. pj