Hi Everyone If you have visited the Request page on OKbits and have sent a snail mail request to Nalora or myself and did not send your email address, please send so we can add it to the obit. Never know when some long lost cousin may read it and want to contact you. Margie Phelps Covey sent me a great picture which I added to ShoeBoxPhotos, need your email address Margie and thanks for the picture. -- Sharon Burnett Crawford ICQ#18100823 OKbits: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okbits/ Hosting Counties Garvin: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarvin/garvin.htm Pittsburg: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpittsb/pittsb.htm Researching Burnett, Wright, Underwood, Crawford and Gosser

This morning I did a heap of census lookups, and only felt nauseated once. Counting my blessings. WILEY: 1900 IT There is one William Wiley in the IT census His wife is Lula, sons Thomas and Jake. If this is yours, let me know, I will send you email on it. There is no William S. or W.S Wiley in the 1910 OK census soundex. BARKER: There is no Jackson Thomas BARKER in the 1910 OK census Soundex. There is a Jack, a 38 year old white male from Indiana, a boarder in another household, and a Thomas 56 year old white male from KY. BEENE: There is no Willis, W. M. or Will BEENE, BEEN or BEAN in the 1900 IT or 1910 OK census soundex. ELLIS: There is one Jerry Ellis in the 1900 OT census soundex 38 years old, born in MO wife Margaret, born in Indiana, children: Bessie, Nettie, Rachel and Elsie. If this is yours let me know. There was no Jeremiah. There was no Jerre, Jerry or Jeremiah in the 1910 OK census soundex. ROGERS: 1900 OT and IT, 1910 OK no Bert Milem or Little Dove Rogers in any census soundex for these years. WRIGHT: Bird Wright is in the 1900 OT census soundex with Wife Mary, and son Virgil: Pottawatomie County, Avoca Twp: WRIGHT, Bird White male, born August 1875 in Alabama Mary White fem. born unk 1880 in TX Virgil D. born OCT 1898 IT COMBES Have copied the 1870 Kansas Combes index. there is only one with an E at the end, there are many without the E. OXFORD: Only one Oxford on the Choctaw Census for 1896. Josephine. She is the only Oxford on the Choctaw final rolls. SKEEN: No Skeens on the 1896 Choctaw Census. HUGGINS No Huggins on the 1896 Choctaw Census. And that was all the Census I did. I am checking the Pott county cem books for the resting place of Mary WRIGHT. I did some work with the half hour I had left on my line and found out that the person who listed the Martin Hill Cemetary was related to Lillie McDonold[sic], my worm's oldest daughter. Maybe she was into geneology! Nalora

Hi, Please tell me what this means: [sic] & what was that: Lillie, ) my WORM"S oldest daughter):? thanks, Debra

Can any one give me the list or lists for Indiana. Would greatly appreciate it. Thanks RW

Yes, it's still there but they took off a lot of it on the east end. It looks deformed! Dana Vashti wrote: > At 10:29 AM 10/5/98 -0500, Gene Philips wrote: > >At 09:46 AM 10/5/98 -0500, you wrote: > >>there. For years, there was a huge man-made hill near I-35 & Robinson, it > >was > >>quite a landmark. I think it was a target range in the war. You knew > >when you > > > >That hill was a backdrop for a firing range. I read a story from someone a > >while back on another list that was pretty good. He was driving out the > >range when he noticed everyone was diving for cover. He couldn't imagine > >what was going on until he looked behind him. There was a tornado coming > >directly for him. He sped up and made it to safety. I don't remember the > >whole story. Maybe the person is on this list and can relate to story in > >it's entirety. > Are yall talkin' about the hill down by Norman on I35 and Robinson? I heard > a few years back they were thinking of leveling it, and the people hollered > NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo!! so it is still there. I like it. Tells me I am in > Norman. > > Nalora

At 10:29 AM 10/5/98 -0500, Gene Philips wrote: >At 09:46 AM 10/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >>there. For years, there was a huge man-made hill near I-35 & Robinson, it >was >>quite a landmark. I think it was a target range in the war. You knew >when you > >That hill was a backdrop for a firing range. I read a story from someone a >while back on another list that was pretty good. He was driving out the >range when he noticed everyone was diving for cover. He couldn't imagine >what was going on until he looked behind him. There was a tornado coming >directly for him. He sped up and made it to safety. I don't remember the >whole story. Maybe the person is on this list and can relate to story in >it's entirety. Are yall talkin' about the hill down by Norman on I35 and Robinson? I heard a few years back they were thinking of leveling it, and the people hollered NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo!! so it is still there. I like it. Tells me I am in Norman. Nalora

Phyllis Thank You so much for the info you have given us on the Landrun I would like to know if there is anywhere the names can be looked up I am in Iowa and was wonering if it was on a website? Thanks Again Angela

Did anyone else notice the typo here? This might answer some of the confusion. When I read the original from Vicki (which I deleted), I saw that in one sentence she had written Keota and in another sentence she had written Koeta. COWETA and KOETA sound the same and could have been misspelled on some buildings in that town. It is overlooking little things like this that has caused some researchers to claim that my great-grandmother was having babies when she was 9 years old. (Mattie, older sister Mollie...kind of look the same especially on a census record) Mattie's mother-in-law was having them when she was 54 years old! (maybe she wanted to out do her LOL) Happy Hunting All Lee Ann Seideman

Hello all, Back from a long weekend. Has anyone heard of a Charlie Magness Barber Shop in Coalgate. On my OXFORD side: Charlie Magness, preformed the weddings in his barber shop, as he was a minister, back in the late 1800's to early 1900's. And if anyone knows if his records are available somewhere? Thank you, Debbie Oxford Long

Greetings all, My name is Michael Harbour. I was the third generation of my family to be born in Bartlesville. My great grandfather George McClellan Harbour (obvious Union sympathies) came to the area before statehood, coming from Winfield, KS sooner than the land rush to sell whisky to the Delaware and Cherokee folks in the Strip. My grandfather Ear Jennings Harbour was born in Bartlesville in 1913 and was an Ice Man for the Crystal Ice company in Bartlesville. My father Mike Harbour was born there in '37. He married a Bartlesville girl, Jacquie Lawver in 1955. Dad had moved to Dewey (home of Tom Mix!) with his family. Dad worked at a teller for the First national Bank of Dewey for a while. Then he was a vice president of Heat Transfer Research Inc, a subsidiary of Phillips Petroleum. I was born in Bartlesville in '59. I attended school in Dewey. Graduated from high school in Tulsa (Memorial '77) and attended OU, but finished my undergrad years later at SFA in Nacogdoches, Texas. I have been living south of the border (The Red) for the last 18 years. Two years ago I moved to Wichita Falls, which is just south of my home land. I ran across this discussion list and look forward to the conversations with all of you. Michael Harbour Loop Eleven church of Christ Wichita Falls, Texas mharbour@wf.net

At 09:46 AM 10/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >there. For years, there was a huge man-made hill near I-35 & Robinson, it was >quite a landmark. I think it was a target range in the war. You knew when you That hill was a backdrop for a firing range. I read a story from someone a while back on another list that was pretty good. He was driving out the range when he noticed everyone was diving for cover. He couldn't imagine what was going on until he looked behind him. There was a tornado coming directly for him. He sped up and made it to safety. I don't remember the whole story. Maybe the person is on this list and can relate to story in it's entirety. Gene ----------------------------------------------- Send me Mail mailto:dataman@telepath.com Visit my Website http://www.telepath.com/dataman Coming to you from Moore Oklahoma.

At 09:47 PM 10/4/98 -0600, Vashti wrote: >Two of them went right over my head. I heard the "freight train" at one >point just as the sirens went off. I was already in the closet, listening to Just curious, what did tornados sound like before there were trains? Gene ----------------------------------------------- Send me Mail mailto:dataman@telepath.com Visit my Website http://www.telepath.com/dataman Coming to you from Moore Oklahoma.

They are called "North Base" & "South Base". North Base is where Westheimer Field (airport) is. Small business jets and private planes land there. When I was growing up near there, one of the flight plans used to go fairly near my house. South Base is east of the University. Some of the old WWII temporary buildings are still there on both bases which are owned by the University. Businesses have located on North Base, also the YMCA and the National Severe Storms Laboratory is there. For years, there was a huge man-made hill near I-35 & Robinson, it was quite a landmark. I think it was a target range in the war. You knew when you drove passed it going south that you had reached Norman. In recent years, dirt has been taken from it to use as fill, it has really destroyed the shape. Dana VWaters972@aol.com wrote: > WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE NAVAL AIR TRAINING SCHOOL IN NORMAN, OK ? IT WAS > PART OF THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA IN THE LATE 40'S EARLY 50'S. THE > UNIVERSITY WAS USING IT UNTIL THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAME IN AND ACTIVATED THE > SCHOOL FOR TRAINING IN AVIATION MECHANICS. > R.W.

I have just begun researching my Stone/Macwater ancestors according to the death certificate of my grandfather and grandmother I have: Granddad: Eugene Vernon Stone Born: November 19, 1908 in Oklahoma. (I have no idea if he had siblings or not) D: March 17, 1991 Parents: Walter F. Stone birthplace: Oklahoma Mary McWaters birthplace: Arkansas Grandmother: Lizzie May Macwaters-Stone Born: March 5, 1908 in Oklahoma (she had 3 sisters living as of her death on Feb. 21, 1988) Parents: Arthur Macwaters birthplace: Arkansas Julia Rogers birthplace: Texas My question is can I get a copy of Vernon's and Lizzie's birth certificates? When did Oklahoma start recording births? I have no idea what county. Their children were also born in OK but sometime around 1950 or earlier they moved to Arizona and then to California in the late 1950's. Where do I write for this information and how much does it cost? Is there a Historical Society that has this information? I was going to write to social security and get their applications but that could take at least 3 months to get, I hear. I got the soundex for 1910 and was not able to locate Eugene Vernon on it. I know that the death certificates are only as reliable as the person giving the information, but at least they know more than I do. Does this family sound familiar to anyone. Any help or suggestions would be helpful. Glad to see the tornado did not harm any of my genealogy brothers and sisters. I really enjoy all of the stories and information that this list gives. This is a very informative and friendly bunch of people. I have been in the background just watching. I am also in the process of typing out the soundex roll that I have for Oklahoma right now. There are some really interesting names on this roll, also there are quite a few Indians on it. The soundex roll I have is T1273 - 114 OK S340 - S360, the first name on the roll is S340 STELLE, SAMUEL and goes on from there so any names before him would be on the previous roll which I do not have. If anyone needs a look up let me know. Leona jimg@mlode.com

At 12:00 AM 10/5/98 -0500, Sharon Crawford wrote: >What a night, but we survived here in Guthrie, Logan Co. Stood out in >the yard and watch the wall cloud going down Hyw 33. Thought about one >of the articles on OKbits(May 26,1910 Garvin Co.) where three people >were caught in the yard during a tornado, one was picked up and killed >while the other two didn't receive a scratch. Kind of graphic but >interesting reading about the destruction. Good Lord, girl, I saw that one going over your head on radar and said: Oh please God, keep it up in the clouds til it gets past Guthrie, I got a new girl friend up there. Glad you are safe! Nalora

At 11:26 PM 10/4/98 -0500, Jim Little wrote: >Sharon, >Now that's a subject we can all relate to. "The Nights I spent in the >cellar"!! lol Brings back 'musty' memories. Or in the bathroom with a mattress over your head. The first tornado I remember was when I was 5 years old, I was looking out the picture window all goggle-eyed and Dad was screaming at mom to get the kids in the bathroom. Mom yanked me away from the picture window and dragged me down the hall to the bathroom. The toilet flushed and started gurgling, and Dad went to the front door to try and open it, but it was vacuum shut. Just then the roof came off and flew away and I shut my eyes and thought I would open them to the Land of OZ. When I opened them there were hundreds of frogs in the house. (It had lifted them from a creek nearby and deposited them in the house) We called the creek "Lightning Creek" tho its real name was Oak creek. It is now called Lightning Creek officially. We used to go down there on hot summer days and go crawdad hunting. Nalora

At 10:12 PM 10/4/98 -0500, Jean wrote: >Glad you are all right. >I was to stupid to even think of getting in the closet. >I keep thinking about all my pictures on the wall and if I should take them >down. *All* of my pictures are in file boxes. I would hate to lose them. Take my diamonds and jewels and furniture, but leave me my bits of paper. (and my dog) Nalora

At 10:08 PM 10/4/98 -0500, Jean wrote: >Believe it or not you get where you don't think much about them. >The sirens don't go off very often. I was scared it would mess up my >computer or I wouldn't have gotten off. > I didn't take shelter. No storm celler. I actually kinda like them. I know....weird. They keep you humble. They are sorta like one man's idea of a really wild carnival ride. I do take shelter, but only when I am in the direct path of it, like last night. I hid in the closet, the touch down was 4 blocks farther east of me. Nalora

Apparently he didn't get on yet so here it is. Pat ---------- > From: Mike Tower <mtower@telepath.com> > To: fcruble <fcRuble@isbe.accessus.net> > Subject: Story > Date: Sunday, October 04, 1998 4:39 PM > > > > > >Pat, nothing real romantic about "Story's" name. Located 2 mile n of > >Maysville, a post office was established from 10-11-1899 to 7-15-1914. The > >postal designation was named for one William Story, a local Chickasaw Indian. > >And, I'm sending email to OKroots. > > >

Everyone may already know this, but while playing on the internet last night, I found the 1818 Chickasaw Annuity Rolls. Thought that it might help someone else as much as it helped me. The address is: http://www.flash.net/~kma/r_1818.htm#surname Peggy