There is a J. C. Farmer 1871 to 1921, but he is buried in the Baptist Mission Cemetery, Adair County. This came from Our People and Where they Rest Book 10 page 3. George ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 12:42 PM Subject: Re: [OKMUSKOG] Ft Gipson Cemetery > Does it list: FARMER, SELF or MITCHELL? Johnnie > > > ==== OKMUSKOG Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett [email protected] > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Ancestry.com--Your #1 Source for Family History Online--FREE for 14 Days > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1238 > > >

My father was born in Indian Territory in 1905 in what is now Ft. Gibson. I believe the AR Census listed them but his birth certificate said Indian Territory and indicated he was not a citizen of the U.S. If it had been part of AR, he would have been a citizen. Oklahoma did not become a state until 1907. W. Long Houston, TX

Sue, If I'm remembering right, Muskogee does have a genealogy and historical society. I would go to www.usgenweb.com and then to the county (can't recall it just now) and look at the county page. They have a world of information on those pages! Hope this helps! Tsana ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [OKMUSKOG] From List Mom: Regarding Oklahoma Survey and Virtual Cemetery ... > Can you put me in touch with some one doing cemetery lookups in Muskogee Ok. > I cant seem to pull anything up on the city cemeteries. > Thanks > Sue Benton > [email protected] > > > > > ==== OKMUSKOG Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Muskogee Co., OK list, use > [email protected] or [email protected] if > you are on the Digest list. > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Can you put me in touch with some one doing cemetery lookups in Muskogee Ok. I cant seem to pull anything up on the city cemeteries. Thanks Sue Benton [email protected]

Johnnie, Here's a couple of the answers I received from the other list when I asked if Ft Gibson was ever in AR and thought you might be interested. I've lived near Ft. Gibson all my life and never knew that. Never too old to learn!! :) Pat Pat, YES, it was. Parts of the Indian Territory were included in Arkansas. I saw a map of the Indian Territory just this last Saturday at the Ardmore library that showed the Arkansas county line stretching across about the Eastern 1/4 part of I.T. It took in about the eastern part of IT by about 75 miles. All of this section except the far NE corner around Miami were included in the county. I was amazed when I saw it and took a good look at it. The time period of this map was about the 1830's or 1840's if I remember correctly. When the line for the boundary of Oklahoma and Arkansas was surveyed, that funny little jog in the boundary was made to keep Ft. Smith in Arkansas. No kidding! Remember that parts of Arkansas was also Indian land after the removals so I would imagine that many years passed before they got all this straightened out. So, the counties in Arkansas as they are now is NOT the way they were during this time period. Counties were added and removed and changed in size, you name it. Dennis Muncrief Murray County CC "Historical Atlas of Oklahoma", pg 21 It appears that Fort Gibson was within Crawford Co AR Territory. What is now McCurtain Co OK and west to near Fort Towson were within "Old" Miller Co AR Territory. From this map, Crawford Co seems to have extended just south of the Kiamichi River and north to the Missouri border. Fort Gibson was on the western most boundary, being barely inside it. This map is undated. "In 1824 an act of Congress fixed the western boundary of AR Terr. on a line forty miles west of the SW corner of MO." "Surveyed by John C Brown, the new AR boundary cut through the lower Kiamichi near the stream's mouth and crossed west of the Three Forks area. The act was a clear violation of the Treaty of Doak's Stand." TLNealy

Sue, thanks for the help to answer my question about Ft. Gibson. Johnnie in CA

Yes, I do thank you for that answer about Ft Gibson, OK. Bless you all for helping me, Johnnie in CA

Yes, Ft. Smith is in Sebastian County now, but parts of Oklahoma was Arkansas, before it became OK, instead of Indian Territory. Johnnie

Sue, I know you must think I'm crazy, just having a senior moment!! LOL I had wondered about that question after I answered it and I had asked on another list if anybody knew. I had gotten some answers and when I got yours, I got mixed up and forgot which list I was answering. Sorry about that!! Anyway now Johnnie knows!! Thanks. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [OKMUSKOG] Crawford County Arkansas > Thanks Sue. That's what this person had been told but didn't know for sure. > I'll just forward this on to them. > Pat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Tolbert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 10:25 PM > Subject: [OKMUSKOG] Crawford County Arkansas > > > > According to the Historical Atlas of Oklahoma, an act of Congress in 1824 > fixed the western boundary of Arkansas Territory on a line fourty miles west > of the southwest corner of Missouri. The new Arkansas boundary cut throught > the lower Kiamichi near the stream's mouth and crossed west of the Three > Forks area. The Three Forks area is where the Grand, Arkansas and Verdigris > Rivers come together just a short distance west of Fort Gibson. This made > Ft. Gibson in Crawford County Arkansas until the boundary line was > resurveyed in 1825 and found to be inaccruate. > > > > Sue > > > > > > ==== OKMUSKOG Mailing List ==== > > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > > > ============================== > > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > > your heritage! > > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > > > > > > ==== OKMUSKOG Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Muskogee Co., OK list, use > [email protected] or [email protected] if > you are on the Digest list. > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 > > >

Thanks Sue. That's what this person had been told but didn't know for sure. I'll just forward this on to them. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Tolbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: [OKMUSKOG] Crawford County Arkansas > According to the Historical Atlas of Oklahoma, an act of Congress in 1824 fixed the western boundary of Arkansas Territory on a line fourty miles west of the southwest corner of Missouri. The new Arkansas boundary cut throught the lower Kiamichi near the stream's mouth and crossed west of the Three Forks area. The Three Forks area is where the Grand, Arkansas and Verdigris Rivers come together just a short distance west of Fort Gibson. This made Ft. Gibson in Crawford County Arkansas until the boundary line was resurveyed in 1825 and found to be inaccruate. > > Sue > > > ==== OKMUSKOG Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > >

According to the Historical Atlas of Oklahoma, an act of Congress in 1824 fixed the western boundary of Arkansas Territory on a line fourty miles west of the southwest corner of Missouri. The new Arkansas boundary cut throught the lower Kiamichi near the stream's mouth and crossed west of the Three Forks area. The Three Forks area is where the Grand, Arkansas and Verdigris Rivers come together just a short distance west of Fort Gibson. This made Ft. Gibson in Crawford County Arkansas until the boundary line was resurveyed in 1825 and found to be inaccruate. Sue

Johnnie, Could they have meant Ft. Smith, AR instead of Ft. Gibson? It's in the same area as Crawford County. I think Fort Smith is in Sebastin County now. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [OKMUSKOG] Ft Gipson Cemetery > Thanks Pat. I have been told that Ft Gibson was once part of Crawford > County, Arkansas, while most of Oklahoma was Indian territory. I was in hope > someone has a correct answer. > Johnnie in CA > > > ==== OKMUSKOG Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > >

Thanks Pat. I have been told that Ft Gibson was once part of Crawford County, Arkansas, while most of Oklahoma was Indian territory. I was in hope someone has a correct answer. Johnnie in CA

Hi Johnnie, I can't help you with the death dates but as far as I know, Ft. Gibson was never in AR? It's about 45 miles from the AR border and a small town east of Muskogee in Muskogee County. It was an actual Army Fort and it is still there today. You might check the Muskogee website too, I know they have a lot of things there. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmusko Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: [OKMUSKOG] Ft Gipson Cemetery > I am looking for birth and death dates of John Carroll FARMER sometimes > referred to as J. C. and his wife Tabitha (Bitha or Siddie, maiden name of > SELF) FARMER. They are buried in the Ft. Gipson Cemetery. Where can I get a > copy or how can I get a copy of the birth and death dates? Siddie SELF > Farmer was my great aunt. One more question, was Ft. Gipson, Oklahoma ever a > part of Crawford County, Arkansas? Johnnie in CA > > > ==== OKMUSKOG Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > >

I am looking for birth and death dates of John Carroll FARMER sometimes referred to as J. C. and his wife Tabitha (Bitha or Siddie, maiden name of SELF) FARMER. They are buried in the Ft. Gipson Cemetery. Where can I get a copy or how can I get a copy of the birth and death dates? Siddie SELF Farmer was my great aunt. One more question, was Ft. Gipson, Oklahoma ever a part of Crawford County, Arkansas? Johnnie in CA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fields Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zYB.2ACE/783.788 Message Board Post: If Tom and Vinnie Fields are buried in the Fields Cemetery they have no marker. One of their son is buried there: Willie S. Fields Born Jul 30, 1894 and died Apr 20, 1918. I have the names of the sisters and brothers of Tom Fields somewhere but will have to search to find it.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rich, Harris, Morris Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/zYB.2ACE/605.1.1 Message Board Post: Could I prevail upon you to check for a Fred Rich and possibly a Bertha Rich unk. buried in the Ft Gibson Cemetery? Are they buried in family plots or do you know? Any information on the Rich family would be appreciated. James Harris

I am not sure what the original message was about, but I do know that the Ruby Keith mentioned below is the daughter of James and Lucinda Pearl (Delaney) Keith. Ruby was born 1 Oct. 1906 and died 17 Oct. 1907. Ms. Cecil V. Boyd At 03:25 PM 11/4/2001 -0700, you wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: Keith >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zYB.2ACE/1442.3 > >Message Board Post: > >The following Keith family members are buried in the Fields Cemetery in >Porum, Oklahoma: > >Lizzie Keith born Dec 4, 1863, died Sep 12, 1898 >she is the wife of J. S. Keith. > >N. J. Keith born Jun 11, 1843, died Apr 7, 1912 >She is the wife of C. M. Keith. > >Ruby Keith born 1906 and died 1907. > > >==== OKMUSKOG Mailing List ==== >NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political >announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, >etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. >Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett >[email protected] >To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett >Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer >Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Keith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zYB.2ACE/1442.3 Message Board Post: The following Keith family members are buried in the Fields Cemetery in Porum, Oklahoma: Lizzie Keith born Dec 4, 1863, died Sep 12, 1898 she is the wife of J. S. Keith. N. J. Keith born Jun 11, 1843, died Apr 7, 1912 She is the wife of C. M. Keith. Ruby Keith born 1906 and died 1907.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Curry, Moore Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/zYB.2ACE/1442.2 Message Board Post: Nellie Curry was born March26, 1890 and died Oct 29, 1920 she was the wife of H. E. Curry. H.S. Moore was born Nov 14, 1863 and died Jan 27, 1936 Mary Moore was born July 30, 1863 and died Dec 23, 1935 All three are buried in the Fields Cemetery in Porum, Oklahoma.