This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Howell, Ray, Kirby, Oliver, Grubbs Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UaB.2ACI/804.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Gene, When you get the obits they may not be enough. Does your Bobbie have, or can she get, copies of the death certificates which may list the parents? Still I would like to know what you find out. Thanks.... Tom Howell