>Keven, you say Martha Cotner married a Coker, do you know his name and was he part of the Coker clan of Marion Co. Ark. > > Pat Munroe > Board Admin > > > > Hi Pat, > I found my GrGreatGrandmother ,as a child, in Sebastian Co Arkansas on the > 1870 census. Her mother is Pernussa Smalley. Living with them is Mother to > Pernussa Nancy Traylor. Living with Nancy Traylor is Martha Cotner. It is > suggested that Martha Cotner, later Coker, is the daughter of Jacob Cotner and > Sarah Traylor, sister to Pernussa. > > Kevin...
Kevin, on the 1870 Sebastian Co. Ark. census Center Twp. Pernussa's birthplace is listed as Mississippi, is this correct ? I located a Jacob Cotner with a wife named Sarah in 1850 on an index for Scott co. Ark. but I have been unable to verify this as yet. I believe that Ancestry .Com. has the wrong link listed for this one or something. I swear thier Indexes are the worst I've ever seen but the fact that they are listed at all means that they were somewhere in Ark. in 1850 . There were also several Traylor's listed in the same Twp but just as with the Cotner link it wasn't working either and when I looked at the actual census pages they were not listed on them so I believe Ancestry has the wrong county listed, so if we find one of these families we more than likely will find the other one near by. I did notice that two of these Scott Co. Traylor's were also listed as being born in Mississippi and one had a wife by the name of Ruth Ann which caught my eye sense there was a Smalley child on the 1870 census with the name Ruth Ann. I haven't been able to find anything usefull in the 1860 census so I suspect that we have to search for Taylor's instead of Traylor's, a common mistake . I'll let you know if I find anything else . Pat Munroe Board Admin. > Hi Pat, > I found my GrGreatGrandmother ,as a child, in Sebastian Co Arkansas on the > 1870 census. Her mother is Pernussa Smalley. Living with them is Mother to > Pernussa Nancy Traylor. Living with Nancy Traylor is Martha Cotner. It is > suggested that Martha Cotner, later Coker, is the daughter of Jacob Cotner and > Sarah Traylor, sister to Pernussa. > > Kevin... > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >
In a message dated 10/17/04 10:12:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pmunroe@sbcglobal.net writes: Well, this seems to be a common occurance in that part of the county. I have found many women living alone, that is to say no husband but many children. This is usually do to there being some Indian blood in the woman in question. (grin) There were many Indian women still living by the old customs in those days and it looks as though some never gave up the old ways. (grin)It makes it very hard to trace beyond her and her children because her children usually went by her name and not the fathers name, just one of the old customes. I will see what info I have on the Traylors and send it your way if it looks usefull. Pat Munroe Board Admin. It is rumored that Native American origin in our family came from there so what you say makes perfect sense. I do appreciate your checking it out. Thanks, Kevin...
Yes Dean, your right in the respect that race has nothing to do with the fact that children born out of wedlock are usually given the mothers surname butttttt the difference in Indian woman living by the old customs is that an Indian woman need not be married to have children and still be looked upon with respect . From what little I know and have read is that Indian woman could have as many children as they wished without the bennifit of a husband if they chose to do so and this was common practice just as many men exspecially the Chiefs were allowed to have many wives. This may not be the case with all tribes but most of the 5 major tribes as I have read lived in this manner. Also according to one of the old customs unions were matrilinier (Sp. I don't use sp. check) I hope that I can explain this correctly . The children of an Indian woman living by the old customs were her children with or without the presents of a husband, they belonged to the mothers clan or tribe not the fathers. The Indian women still living by the old customs even into the late 1800's and after such time as they had taken on surnames would give thier children thier surnames just as a woman today would do. The difference though comes with the way it was looked upon by the Indians, it was a way of life for them that carried no shame, the shame was from the white man . I have an application to the Cherokee Nation made in 190? that I have in this mess somewhere, that the person submitting the affidavit says his grandmother was Cherokee and lived by the old customs having several children but never took a husband and always went by the surname of (????? ) as did all of her children. Upon researching this person and locating them on the census from 1830 till 1880 I did find the Applicant to be tell the truth, there was never a man in the household, the woman was always listed as HOH, I have found many other females living the same way also . More later Pat Munroe Board Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean and Nell Duke" <deanandnell@intellex.com> > Pat > No, I haven't done any research on Indian customs. But I have searched the > Dawes Rolls for my relatives. > I don't believe there is really any difference between Indian women, > Caucasian women, African-American women or Hispanic women. Or any other > race. In the earlier days when a woman of any race had a baby out of > wedlock, she gave the baby her maiden name. At least that is the way it > happened in McIntosh County and my wife says it happened that way in Texas > where she grew up. > But I am very interested in any information you may have on Indian women's > habits of having children out of wedlock and or any other Indian customs you > may have read about. > Dean......
In a message dated 10/17/04 9:30:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pmunroe@sbcglobal.net writes: Keven, there were Traylors in Greene, Howell counties Mo. about 1850 or 1860 that had been in Ark. previously . I will look them up for you if you think they might be yours. Pat Munroe Board Admin. Hi Pat, I appreciate any efforts. There is supposedly a small blurb about them ( Nancy, Sarah and Pernucia Traylor) in a book by Neal Cotner called A Window To The Past. According to one response I received to a query, the mother Nancy Traylor, has never been found with a husband and is rumored to have had 7 children. I know virtually nothing of this side of the family. I am also still seeking to find Pernussa/Pernucia with her Smalley husband as he is absent from the 1870 census in Sebastian Co, Arkansas. Thanks, Kevin...
In a message dated 10/17/04 8:47:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pmunroe@sbcglobal.net writes: Keven, what Traylors did you have in Ark. ??? Pat Munroe Board Admin Hi Pat, I found my GrGreatGrandmother ,as a child, in Sebastian Co Arkansas on the 1870 census. Her mother is Pernussa Smalley. Living with them is Mother to Pernussa Nancy Traylor. Living with Nancy Traylor is Martha Cotner. It is suggested that Martha Cotner, later Coker, is the daughter of Jacob Cotner and Sarah Traylor, sister to Pernussa. Kevin...
In a message dated 10/17/04 8:43:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, thejenks@valuelinx.net writes: We have a very good library in Ft Smith. Our big Honda dealer here is Floyd Traylor's. Maybe he's related to you? ----- Original Message ----- From: <KRobertsInCA@aol.com> To: <OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family I plan on visiting Ft. Smith when I make my trip out. Finding a Traylor cousin would be awesome but there is very little known about my Traylor link. Always hopeful though. Thanks, Kevin...
I don't know how I started getting all these e-mail about the Blair Family, I posted about my Great Grandfather in McIntosh County. William A. Austin. If I see anything on the Blair Family I will let you know/. > [Original Message] > From: James Gillespie <jlg77@cvip.net> > To: <OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 10/17/2004 2:16:50 PM > Subject: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family > > Looking for Morgan Blair and wife Amelia Phipps, married abt 1900 according > to the 1930 Oklahoma, McIntosh County Census. > Morgan died about 1940 in Checotah and Amelia died about 1941 also in > Checotah according to present day family. > Would like to know in what cemetary they are buried! > > Thank you very much for any help you can offer, > James Gillespie > Fresno County California US Genweb Volunteer > > > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/
The hours of the Fresno LDS Family History Center are; M-9-4 T-9-4, 7-9 W-7-9pm TH-9-4, 7-9pm F-Closed Sat-9-1 Tel: 559/266-0888 1814 N. Echo St. across from Fresno High School. The Fresno County Library, Genealogy Room, has also a good collection of books. I don't know if they have much on Oklahoma. I can check this week. -----Original Message----- From: pmunroe [mailto:pmunroe@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:13 AM To: OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family James, what are the hours for the LDS center there ? Pat Munroe Board Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gillespie" <jlg77@cvip.net> To: <OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 7:21 PM Subject: RE: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family > You guys need to try the LDS Family History Center on Echo across from > Fresno High. We have the best. > Jim G > > -----Original Message----- > From: KRobertsInCA@aol.com [mailto:KRobertsInCA@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:48 PM > To: OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family > > > > In a message dated 10/17/04 6:43:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > pmunroe@sbcglobal.net writes: > > Hi Keven, Tulare must have a better genealogy department than our Hanford > Library. (grin) > Boy I can't believe that I have so many researchers around me with McIntosh > county Ok. connections. Gee I wonder if any of us might be distantly > related ? (grin) > > Pat Munroe > Board Admin. > OKMCINTO > > > Hi Pat, > Wouldn't that be something? I would love to run into a distant relative as > it seems parts of my clans were very elusive. Some of the names I am > researching include Clubb, Brown, Ralston, Green and Smalley. > Tulare does have a pretty large genealogy room. There are several shelves > with oklahoma information, sadly not much on McIntosh Co. I have been told > it > is one of the better rooms between San Diego and San Francisco. > Unfortunately, for me, my family did not migrate out to California until > 1939-1940. > Happy to look up anything I can. I also frequent the cemeteries out in > this > area hunting for kin. I will try to send a message out before my next trip > in case anyone needs local photos or information. > Kevin Roberts. > > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
In a message dated 10/17/04 7:43:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, thejenks@valuelinx.net writes: Hey, what a coincidence! I was one of the Dust Bowl babies born in Visalia. Would be interesting to find out how many McIntosh Co. people are in your area now. My Grandmother, Laura "Patsy" Pullen lived right off Weedpatch Highway. Her address was Lamont. Still have cousins in Visalia. Would love to go to the library there, but its a long ways from Arkansas. Doris Pullen Jenkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "pmunroe" <pmunroe@sbcglobal.net> To: <OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:47 AM Subject: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family There seems to be quite a "crop" of us here in the central valley. I envy you Doris. I would like to hit some of the libraries in Arkansas. My clans in Arkansas were just as elusive. Those darned Smalleys and Traylors. :) I hope to make a trip out to Arkansas and Oklahoma sometime mid next year. Fingers crossed. Kevin Roberts.
We have a very good library in Ft Smith. Our big Honda dealer here is Floyd Traylor's. Maybe he's related to you? ----- Original Message ----- From: <KRobertsInCA@aol.com> To: <OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family > > In a message dated 10/17/04 7:43:43 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > thejenks@valuelinx.net writes: > > Hey, what a coincidence! I was one of the Dust Bowl babies born in Visalia. > Would be interesting to find out how many McIntosh Co. people are in your > area now. My Grandmother, Laura "Patsy" Pullen > lived right off Weedpatch Highway. Her address was Lamont. Still have > cousins in Visalia. Would love to go to the library there, but its a long > ways from Arkansas. Doris Pullen Jenkins > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pmunroe" <pmunroe@sbcglobal.net> > To: <OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:47 AM > Subject: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family > > > There seems to be quite a "crop" of us here in the central valley. I envy > you Doris. I would like to hit some of the libraries in Arkansas. My clans > in Arkansas were just as elusive. Those darned Smalleys and Traylors. :) > I hope to make a trip out to Arkansas and Oklahoma sometime mid next year. > Fingers crossed. > Kevin Roberts. > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > !DSPAM:41732e9e316941001410728! > >
In a message dated 10/17/04 7:09:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, wtackett@lightspeed.net writes: My maternal grandmother was born in Checotah in 1903 (CALICO). My father's family (BURKS) came from Norman to Checotah in 1928. Other family names in the area are: ANDREWS and TROLINGER. My husband is also from McIntosh County (Texanna), TACKETT, NEWTON, HURST, SAYLOR. There is also a Green and McIntosh connection in his family. I have family who live in Checotah and was back for a visit last May/June. What are the hours at the Tulare Library? I have not been there in years, but have been thinking about taking the short drive north. Wanda Shafter, CA Hi Wanda, Here is the link for info on the Tulare Public Library and Genealogy room. _Tulare Public Library - Genealogy_ (http://www.sjvls.org/tularepub/services/genealogy.htm) We will have to talk about Green family sometime. Many of my Green family members lived and died in Texanna. Kevin...
In a message dated 10/17/04 7:21:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jlg77@cvip.net writes: You guys need to try the LDS Family History Center on Echo across from Fresno High. We have the best. Jim G I may just give that a shot. Our local LDS center is "oklahoma" poor with regard to searchable records. Thanks for the tip. Kevin...
Dean, I'm so glad that you asked this question, have you done any research on Indian customs and or lifestyles ? I would be more than happy to share what info I have gathered on the subject, taken from Dawes inrollment applications, census, etc. For those of you that are interested in the subject lets start a discusion on this forum, I think it would make a great topic, after all this is not your tipical text book info. If anyone else out there has any info on the subject please jump in here and share with the rest of us. If you are in the dark then jump in with a question and we will all do our best to find an answer for you . In the mean time I will be sorting through my info looking for source material that I have stored somewhere in this mess of mine. Pat Munroe Board Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean and Nell Duke" <deanandnell@intellex.com> > I'm wondering where Pat Munroe got her information about the sex habits of > Indian women. I had never heard that one before and I've lived around here > for almost 70 years. > Dean in McIntosh County........ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pmunroe" <pmunroe@sbcglobal.net> > > Well, this seems to be a common occurance in that part of the county. I > > have found many women living alone, that is to say no husband but many > > children. This is usually do to there being some Indian blood in the > > woman > > in question. (grin) There were many Indian women still living by the old > > customs in those days and it looks as though some never gave up the old > > ways. (grin)It makes it very hard to trace beyond her and her children > > because her children usually went by her name and not the fathers name, > > just > > one of the old customes. > > I will see what info I have on the Traylors and send it your way if it > > looks > > usefull. > > > > Pat Munroe > > Board Admin.
In a message dated 10/17/04 6:43:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pmunroe@sbcglobal.net writes: Hi Keven, Tulare must have a better genealogy department than our Hanford Library. (grin) Boy I can't believe that I have so many researchers around me with McIntosh county Ok. connections. Gee I wonder if any of us might be distantly related ? (grin) Pat Munroe Board Admin. OKMCINTO Hi Pat, Wouldn't that be something? I would love to run into a distant relative as it seems parts of my clans were very elusive. Some of the names I am researching include Clubb, Brown, Ralston, Green and Smalley. Tulare does have a pretty large genealogy room. There are several shelves with oklahoma information, sadly not much on McIntosh Co. I have been told it is one of the better rooms between San Diego and San Francisco. Unfortunately, for me, my family did not migrate out to California until 1939-1940. Happy to look up anything I can. I also frequent the cemeteries out in this area hunting for kin. I will try to send a message out before my next trip in case anyone needs local photos or information. Kevin Roberts.
Hey, what a coincidence! I was one of the Dust Bowl babies born in Visalia. Would be interesting to find out how many McIntosh Co. people are in your area now. My Grandmother, Laura "Patsy" Pullen lived right off Weedpatch Highway. Her address was Lamont. Still have cousins in Visalia. Would love to go to the library there, but its a long ways from Arkansas. Doris Pullen Jenkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "pmunroe" <pmunroe@sbcglobal.net> To: <OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:47 AM Subject: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family > Hi Keven, Tulare must have a better genealogy department than our Hanford > Library. (grin) > Boy I can't believe that I have so many researchers around me with McIntosh > county Ok. connections. Gee I wonder if any of us might be distantly > related ? (grin) > > Pat Munroe > Board Admin. > OKMCINTO > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KRobertsInCA@aol.com> > To: <-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 5:52 PM > Subject: Re: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family > > > > > > In a message dated 10/17/04 5:22:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > pmunroe@sbcglobal.net writes: > > > > James, I noticed on your post that your a volunteer for the Fresno county > > Calif. Genweb, do you live in Fresno ? > > I live in Hanford about 40 miles from Fresno . > > > > Pat Munroe > > McIntosh Co. OK. > > board Administrator > > > > > > I, just to let you all know, live in Visalia. I am usually at the > Tulare > > Library Genealogy room every wednesday night in case you need a Tulare > County > > Look up. :) > > > > Kevin Roberts > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > !DSPAM:4173201667691830219040! > >
In a message dated 10/17/04 5:22:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pmunroe@sbcglobal.net writes: James, I noticed on your post that your a volunteer for the Fresno county Calif. Genweb, do you live in Fresno ? I live in Hanford about 40 miles from Fresno . Pat Munroe McIntosh Co. OK. board Administrator I, just to let you all know, live in Visalia. I am usually at the Tulare Library Genealogy room every wednesday night in case you need a Tulare County Look up. :) Kevin Roberts
My grandparents, Jack A McCoy and Lizzie Sexton came out to Calif in the late 30's than back to Oklahoma and than back to California in the late 50's. While they were in Checotah they owned the motel and cafe on top of the hill(I think it was on a hill). If they were not in McIntosh Co they were in Haskell or Muskogee County. I guess thats why I can't sit still for very long. Jim G Fresno -----Original Message----- From: Doris Jenkins [mailto:thejenks@valuelinx.net] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 7:46 PM To: OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family Hey, what a coincidence! I was one of the Dust Bowl babies born in Visalia. Would be interesting to find out how many McIntosh Co. people are in your area now. My Grandmother, Laura "Patsy" Pullen lived right off Weedpatch Highway. Her address was Lamont. Still have cousins in Visalia. Would love to go to the library there, but its a long ways from Arkansas. Doris Pullen Jenkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "pmunroe" <pmunroe@sbcglobal.net> To: <OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 8:47 AM Subject: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family > Hi Keven, Tulare must have a better genealogy department than our Hanford > Library. (grin) > Boy I can't believe that I have so many researchers around me with McIntosh > county Ok. connections. Gee I wonder if any of us might be distantly > related ? (grin) > > Pat Munroe > Board Admin. > OKMCINTO > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KRobertsInCA@aol.com> > To: <-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 5:52 PM > Subject: Re: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family > > > > > > In a message dated 10/17/04 5:22:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > > pmunroe@sbcglobal.net writes: > > > > James, I noticed on your post that your a volunteer for the Fresno county > > Calif. Genweb, do you live in Fresno ? > > I live in Hanford about 40 miles from Fresno . > > > > Pat Munroe > > McIntosh Co. OK. > > board Administrator > > > > > > I, just to let you all know, live in Visalia. I am usually at the > Tulare > > Library Genealogy room every wednesday night in case you need a Tulare > County > > Look up. :) > > > > Kevin Roberts > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > !DSPAM:4173201667691830219040! > > ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
Thanks Wanda. That helped. Jim G -----Original Message----- From: Wanda Tackett [mailto:wtackett@lightspeed.net] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 4:17 PM To: OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family James, Greenlawn Cemetery, Checotah, OK, Section A, Row 3 BLAIR, Morgan, 3 Aug 1870, 16 Nov 1940, s/w Amelia BLAIR, Amelia, 11 Aug 1878, 16 Dec 1941, s/w Morgan The Smith Funeral Home may have the burial record, I can get the address and phone number for you. You may email direct if you like. Wanda wtackett@lightspeed.net Shafter, CA -----Original Message----- From: Bernnice Sampley [mailto:prunella1@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 12:21 PM To: OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Fwd: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family This somehow came to me at prunella1@sbcglobal.net James Gillespie <jlg77@cvip.net> wrote:Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:17:28 -0700 From: James Gillespie To: OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family Looking for Morgan Blair and wife Amelia Phipps, married abt 1900 according to the 1930 Oklahoma, McIntosh County Census. Morgan died about 1940 in Checotah and Amelia died about 1941 also in Checotah according to present day family. Would like to know in what cemetary they are buried! Thank you very much for any help you can offer, James Gillespie Fresno County California US Genweb Volunteer ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/
You guys need to try the LDS Family History Center on Echo across from Fresno High. We have the best. Jim G -----Original Message----- From: KRobertsInCA@aol.com [mailto:KRobertsInCA@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 6:48 PM To: OKMCINTO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OKMCINTO] Blair Family In a message dated 10/17/04 6:43:29 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pmunroe@sbcglobal.net writes: Hi Keven, Tulare must have a better genealogy department than our Hanford Library. (grin) Boy I can't believe that I have so many researchers around me with McIntosh county Ok. connections. Gee I wonder if any of us might be distantly related ? (grin) Pat Munroe Board Admin. OKMCINTO Hi Pat, Wouldn't that be something? I would love to run into a distant relative as it seems parts of my clans were very elusive. Some of the names I am researching include Clubb, Brown, Ralston, Green and Smalley. Tulare does have a pretty large genealogy room. There are several shelves with oklahoma information, sadly not much on McIntosh Co. I have been told it is one of the better rooms between San Diego and San Francisco. Unfortunately, for me, my family did not migrate out to California until 1939-1940. Happy to look up anything I can. I also frequent the cemeteries out in this area hunting for kin. I will try to send a message out before my next trip in case anyone needs local photos or information. Kevin Roberts. ============================== You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/