This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Powell, Jones, Martin, Holder, Long Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SaB.2ACI/1660 Message Board Post: Would appreciate any info on any of the descendants of Roena Elizabeth Powell, born 30 Jun 1867 AL; died 24 Feb 1944 Bowie County, TX: buried 26 Feb 1944 Woodmen Cemetery, DeKalb, TX; married (1) Henry Thomas Jones; married (2) Benjamin Benton “Bogue” Holder, Jr.; 7 children: 1. Mellie Augusta Jones, born 18 Sep 1889 AL died on 11 Aug 1965 TX; married Perry Abner Long on 10 Nov 1906 TX. Perry was born 14 May 1881, died on 3 Sep 1959, and was buried in Spring Hill Cemetery, Bowie County, TX. They had 3 children:  Claire Sue Long married (1) J. D. Icenhower. He was born on 12 Dec 1916, died on 3 Sep 1951, and was buried in Woodmen Cemetery, DeKalb, Bowie, TX.  Robbie Cleo Long, born on 20 Jan 1918; died in Jul 1978; married (1) John Mitchell; m (2) M. J. Hutton.  Aubrey Verdell Long was born on 23 Apr 1924. He died on 28 Sep 1995. 2. Lela Jones, born 12 Dec 1890 AL. She died on 15 Jul 1970 in Idabel, McCurtain, OK. She was buried on 21 Jul 1970 in Denison Cemetery, Idabel, McCurtain, OK; married Male Jones. 3. Arlene Jones; born 30 Mar 1893 AL; died on 1 Dec 1964 Idabel, McCurtain, OK; married Dula “Dude” Holder. 4. Robert Moore Jones; born 8 Aug 1895 AL; died on 30 Dec 1969 Idabel, McCurtain, OK; buried in Canfield Cemetery, Idabel, McCurtain, OK; married Sue Hobson about 1917. 1 son: Vernon Franklin Jones; born on 6 Sep 1917 Tom, McCurtain, OK; died 22 Jan 1978 KS; buried in Canfield Cemetery, Idabel, McCurtain, OK. 5. Unknown Female Jones, born AL; died after 1944 in Idabel, McCurtain, OK; married Robert Jones. 6. Ira Rebecca Jones born on 1 Dec 1900 AL; died 11 Jul 1961 in Idabel, McCurtain, OK; buried 12 Jul 1961 in Denison Cemetery, Idabel, McCurtain, OK. Ira married at least twice. 7. Ammie Powell Jones; born on 15 Aug 1904 TX; died 18 Feb 1981 Idabel, McCurtain, OK; buried Tom Cemetery, Tom, McCurtain, OK; married Marshall B. Martin.

Thanks so much! I'll check that out. Brandee

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Costilow , Fowler Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SaB.2ACI/1346.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Lige is a nickname for Elijha(sp). He was with the Fowler family in several census. There is alot of information about him in McCurtain co history. Davine

Is the Henry Louis Costilow the same person as Lige Costilow? I don't show a Henry Louis Costilow as the brother of Lena May Costilow who married George Jordan Touchstone. What was Jennie Lila Durant's husband's name also? ----- Original Message ----- From: <la_flaquita@hotmail.com> To: <OKMCCURT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:16 AM Subject: [OKMCCURT] Re: Jennie Lila (Durant) Costilow McCurtain County > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Costilow > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SaB.2ACI/1346.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > I know this is really old but I was messing around and came across this. My grandfather is Henry Louis Costilow, the youngest son of Jennie Lila Durant Costilow. He will turn 91 in Jan. 2004. He remembers his mother's death (he was eight years old)- not in a house fire but from a ruptured appendix. The doctor came to the house and operated on her on the kitchen table but couldn't save her. My grandfather went to live with some uncles and aunts in the area and stayed close to his oldest sister Lena. > > > ==== OKMCCURT Mailing List ==== > CONTACT the list admin. at tawshasroots@yahoo.com > Visit the McCurtain county page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmccurt/mccurt.htm > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SaB.2ACI/1346.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I saw your messsage about the Costilow name. My greatgrandfather, Nathanial Mears Fowler was married to Henrietta Costilow. I don't know much. I find her in 1920 census with her son. I had a picture of her and her family that someone sent to me , but i had a crash and lost it. I am very interested in any information. Maybe there is a connection. Davine

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Costilow Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SaB.2ACI/1346.1.1 Message Board Post: I know this is really old but I was messing around and came across this. My grandfather is Henry Louis Costilow, the youngest son of Jennie Lila Durant Costilow. He will turn 91 in Jan. 2004. He remembers his mother's death (he was eight years old)- not in a house fire but from a ruptured appendix. The doctor came to the house and operated on her on the kitchen table but couldn't save her. My grandfather went to live with some uncles and aunts in the area and stayed close to his oldest sister Lena.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Nicholson, Shelby, Myrick Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SaB.2ACI/133.567.2 Message Board Post: Hey Sue!! Found you again, huh? I think Uncle Travis was married to Marie.......but one of them was married to a Dora too. Is that the Uncle Travis that sold grave stones? Email me cuz, I'm still here. Pojamie143@yahoo.com Jamie

This is something that we need to take a look at as genealogists. Jane Foley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Wynn" <wynnmill@interl.net> To: <MOBARRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:50 PM Subject: [MOBARRY-L] New Bill dealing with records > Thanks for posting this. I've taken action by writing my Senators. If > any of you would like, you can "cut & paste" the following which I based > on the Garrett's post: it was really easy, I just went to > http://www.senate.gov/ found my state and wrote both Senators. > > > > Regarding: 9/11 Recommendations Implementation Act (Engrossed Amendment > as Agreed to by House)[S.2845.EAH] > > > > Senator: > > > > I thoroughly understand and appreciate the need for heightened security > in obtaining copies of Birth Records, but passing S.2845 as it now reads > would remove one more freedom from us. > > > > If S.2845 becomes law, as now written, family historians like myself > will face some real challenges in attempts to obtain birth records, even > on long-deceased ancestors. Specifically, what I am suggesting as an > amateur genealogist is that the Senate apply the addition of Sec. > 3061(b)(1)(A)(iii) that would read: "who is alive on the date that > access to their birth certificate is requested." This addition would > clarify that the legislation (soon to be law) applies ONLY to birth > certificates of CURRENTLY LIVING PERSONS. > > > > Thank you for your consideration of this concern. > > > > Pat Wynn > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy & Linda Garrett [mailto:lrgarrett@alltel.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 6:25 PM > To: MOBARRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MOBARRY-L] New Bill dealing with records > > > > New Bill Will Possibly Close Records to Genealogists > > > > HR10, which was mentioned in the 13 October issue of RootsWeb Review, > has passed out of the U.S. House of Representatives and is now part of > S.2845. The amendments suggested by David Rencher in his letter to the > bill's sponsor, Congressman J. Dennis Hastert, were NOT incorporated > into this legislation. Thus, the terms of HR10 will now be considered > by the Senate, as part of S.2845. > > > > If S.2845 becomes law, as now written, family historians will face some > real challenges in attempts to obtain birth records, even on > long-deceased individuals. Specifically, what genealogists need to do is > suggest to their lawmakers the addition of Sec. 3061(b)(1)(A)(iii) that > would read: "who is alive on the date that access to their birth > certificate is requested." This addition would clarify that the > legislation (soon to be law) applies ONLY to birth certificates of > CURRENTLY LIVING PERSONS. > > > > If you do not know your U.S. Senator's e-mail address, you can find it > at http://www.senate.gov/ > > > > This bill can be found online at http://thomas.loc.gov/ > > > > Enter: S.2845 (in the bill number window) > > > > Select: Item #3, 9/11 Recommendations Implementation Act (Engrossed > Amendment as Agreed to by House)[S.2845.EAH] > > > > Chapter 2: "Improved Security for Birth Certificates" > > > > Chapter 3/Subtitle B "Identity Management Security" > > > > Chapter 2 "Improved Security for Birth Certificates"

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SaB.2ACI/1659.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Karen I will see what I can do. I into finals this week at school so it may take me a few days . see ya, margie

This site does not work http://www.oregon-trail.com/ or http://www.isu.edu/~trinmich/Oregontrail.html Janet -----Original Message----- From: Jane Foley [mailto:mjfent@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:41 AM To: OKMCCURT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OKMCCURT] Responses on Wagon Train Routes Wow! You people are wonderful in responding to my question! I sent this question to several websites and I want to share with you the responses I received. I will check them out as I can get to them. Several of you said you wanted the information too. So here is what I received back. Jane Foley Their is many accounts of the wagon train routes here is a web site with some of the story's of some of the Men and boys going out west during the Gold rush from Illinois, ( http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilschuyl/Oregontrail.html ) looking for some other that I have read , will post when I find them,,,, Richard Graham check out another web site on the California Gold Rush with some of the fellows from Illinois 1848,,,,,,,,,, www.rootsweb.com/~ilschuyl/ look for Schuyler, Co and California Gold Rush first column down almost all the way. Richard This site will provide some of the information you might be looking for: http://www.over-land.com/emigrants.html Roger Jane, Try OCTA@indepmo.org OCTA stands for OR CA Trail Association. They are headquartered in Independence, MO. I think they can help you. Tom Maybe these will help. Winn 1843 Wagon Train Pioneers http://www.peak.org/~mransom/a2m.html ARRIVALS IN OREGON 1852 http://home.netcom.com/~symbios/52intro.html Wagon Train Arrivals as Reported in the Frontier Guardian http://www.rootsweb.com/~iapottaw/WgnTrnIndx.htm Wagon Trains http://www.cyndislist.com/migration.htm#Wagon There were at least a couple of routes that they may have traveled in going from east to west. One would have been the Zanes Trace. The Government hired Col. Zane to blaze a trail through the as yet un traveled way to the west. That trail was nothing more than a path cut though the trees and brush to allow horses and wagons to pass through. There would be stumps left from cutting down the trees. Some places in the route might just be only where Zane and his men hacked at the trees and made marks to show the people where the trail was and where the next people following were to go. Another was the National Road. Which was the first road built "completely" using federal funds. You can find more info on them by going to the following sites. http://www.flintridgevineyard.com/page/page/390943.htm for Zane's Trace and http://www.nps.gov/fone/natlroad.htm for the National Road Mel The Scots-Irish From Ulster and The Great Philadelphia Wagon Road http://www.electricscotland.com/history/america/wagon_road.htm The Great Wagon Road: From Philadelphia to the South http://www.historyus.com/The_Great_Wagon_Road_From_Philadelphia_to_the_South _087517065X.html Jane The only people who MIGHT have kept a list were the suppliers and grocers. Most bought supplies along the way. There are a few books about wagon trains but not many. There one we read about the women going from Mississippi and she kept a diary that was turned into a book. The majority of the women who were/or got P.G. did not make it. I cannot even imagine what those men and women and children went thru. Hope you find records and if you do let me know please. All I can think of is after the Civil War and the Land Lotteries. L Have you tried looking for "wagon trails" using a search engine, such as Google. There are many entries. R Rogers Jane, There are maps on the internet which trace some of the early roads. One early road was called The Federal Road. It went from GA (I think it was Augusta) southwest to AL/MS. You might try a Google search for it. Before the Indians were removed to OK, it was necessary for people who traveled across their land to get a passport. These have survived and have been compiled into a volume called: PASSPORTS OF SOUTHEASTERN PIONEERS, 1770-1823. I do not know if this compilation is complete but at least it will give you a place to look. I don't own a copy but you might be able to get a copy by inter-library loan. Good luck, Dennis Smith As far as I know, no, no record as such. It was more like "if twelve of us all decide to get in our cars and move from Knoxville to Los Angeles, who's keeping the records of who all is moving?" The answer, of course, is that while there are certainly people aware of it, there aren't any official records of it as such. P Great Gateway to the American Westward Expansion: http://www.linecamp.com/museums/americanwest/hubs/great_gateway_west/great_g ateway_west.html Missouri River Outfitters: http://www.stjohnks.net/santafetrail/missouririver/outfitters.html Wagon Train: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/WWwagontrain.htm [another] Wagon Train: http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/history/A0851256.html Cyndi's List: Migration Routes, Roads & Trails: http://www.cyndislist.com/migration.htm I would contact the US Dept. of Interior and see what they might have. I would think this would come under them. Might try the Mormons in Salt Lake City, Utah. They keep excellent records S Holland ==== OKMCCURT Mailing List ==== CONTACT the list admin. at tawshasroots@yahoo.com Visit the McCurtain county page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmccurt/mccurt.htm ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004

This trail you find my Munkres family moving Oregon. Janet -----Original Message----- From: Jane Foley [mailto:mjfent@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:41 AM To: OKMCCURT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OKMCCURT] Responses on Wagon Train Routes Wow! You people are wonderful in responding to my question! I sent this question to several websites and I want to share with you the responses I received. I will check them out as I can get to them. Several of you said you wanted the information too. So here is what I received back. Jane Foley Their is many accounts of the wagon train routes here is a web site with some of the story's of some of the Men and boys going out west during the Gold rush from Illinois, ( http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilschuyl/Oregontrail.html ) looking for some other that I have read , will post when I find them,,,, Richard Graham check out another web site on the California Gold Rush with some of the fellows from Illinois 1848,,,,,,,,,, www.rootsweb.com/~ilschuyl/ look for Schuyler, Co and California Gold Rush first column down almost all the way. Richard This site will provide some of the information you might be looking for: http://www.over-land.com/emigrants.html Roger Jane, Try OCTA@indepmo.org OCTA stands for OR CA Trail Association. They are headquartered in Independence, MO. I think they can help you. Tom Maybe these will help. Winn 1843 Wagon Train Pioneers http://www.peak.org/~mransom/a2m.html ARRIVALS IN OREGON 1852 http://home.netcom.com/~symbios/52intro.html Wagon Train Arrivals as Reported in the Frontier Guardian http://www.rootsweb.com/~iapottaw/WgnTrnIndx.htm Wagon Trains http://www.cyndislist.com/migration.htm#Wagon There were at least a couple of routes that they may have traveled in going from east to west. One would have been the Zanes Trace. The Government hired Col. Zane to blaze a trail through the as yet un traveled way to the west. That trail was nothing more than a path cut though the trees and brush to allow horses and wagons to pass through. There would be stumps left from cutting down the trees. Some places in the route might just be only where Zane and his men hacked at the trees and made marks to show the people where the trail was and where the next people following were to go. Another was the National Road. Which was the first road built "completely" using federal funds. You can find more info on them by going to the following sites. http://www.flintridgevineyard.com/page/page/390943.htm for Zane's Trace and http://www.nps.gov/fone/natlroad.htm for the National Road Mel The Scots-Irish From Ulster and The Great Philadelphia Wagon Road http://www.electricscotland.com/history/america/wagon_road.htm The Great Wagon Road: From Philadelphia to the South http://www.historyus.com/The_Great_Wagon_Road_From_Philadelphia_to_the_South _087517065X.html Jane The only people who MIGHT have kept a list were the suppliers and grocers. Most bought supplies along the way. There are a few books about wagon trains but not many. There one we read about the women going from Mississippi and she kept a diary that was turned into a book. The majority of the women who were/or got P.G. did not make it. I cannot even imagine what those men and women and children went thru. Hope you find records and if you do let me know please. All I can think of is after the Civil War and the Land Lotteries. L Have you tried looking for "wagon trails" using a search engine, such as Google. There are many entries. R Rogers Jane, There are maps on the internet which trace some of the early roads. One early road was called The Federal Road. It went from GA (I think it was Augusta) southwest to AL/MS. You might try a Google search for it. Before the Indians were removed to OK, it was necessary for people who traveled across their land to get a passport. These have survived and have been compiled into a volume called: PASSPORTS OF SOUTHEASTERN PIONEERS, 1770-1823. I do not know if this compilation is complete but at least it will give you a place to look. I don't own a copy but you might be able to get a copy by inter-library loan. Good luck, Dennis Smith As far as I know, no, no record as such. It was more like "if twelve of us all decide to get in our cars and move from Knoxville to Los Angeles, who's keeping the records of who all is moving?" The answer, of course, is that while there are certainly people aware of it, there aren't any official records of it as such. P Great Gateway to the American Westward Expansion: http://www.linecamp.com/museums/americanwest/hubs/great_gateway_west/great_g ateway_west.html Missouri River Outfitters: http://www.stjohnks.net/santafetrail/missouririver/outfitters.html Wagon Train: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/WWwagontrain.htm [another] Wagon Train: http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/history/A0851256.html Cyndi's List: Migration Routes, Roads & Trails: http://www.cyndislist.com/migration.htm I would contact the US Dept. of Interior and see what they might have. I would think this would come under them. Might try the Mormons in Salt Lake City, Utah. They keep excellent records S Holland ==== OKMCCURT Mailing List ==== CONTACT the list admin. at tawshasroots@yahoo.com Visit the McCurtain county page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmccurt/mccurt.htm ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.802 / Virus Database: 545 - Release Date: 11/26/2004

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SaB.2ACI/1659.1 Message Board Post: Hi Karen, yor cousin here. I was at the cemetary on moms birthday the 2nd of December. Granpa's grave is there close to dad's. Tell me where to look and I will see what I can do to get the information for you. love margie

Genealogist's Christmas Eve ('Twas the Night Before Christmas) 'Twas the night before Christmas When all through the house Not a creature was stirring, Not even my spouse. The dining room table with clutter was spread With pedigree charts and letters which said... "Too bad that the data for which you last wrote Sank in a storm on an ill-fated boat." Stacks of old copies of bills, wills, and such Were proof that my work had become way too much. Our children were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of sugarplums danced in their heads. And I at my table was ready to drop From work on my album with photos to crop. Christmas was here, and such was my lot That presents and goodies and toys I'd forgot. Had I not been so busy with grandparents' wills, I'd not have forgotten to shop for such thrills; While others bought gifts to bring good Christmas cheers, I'd spent time researching those birthdates and years. While I was thus musing about my sad plight, A noise on the lawn gave me such a great fright! Away to the window I flew in a flash, Tore open the drapes and yanked up the sash. When what with my wondering eyes should appear, But an overstuffed sleigh and with eight small reindeer. Up to the house top the reindeer they flew, With a sleigh full of toys and ol' Santa Claus, too. And then in a twinkle, I heard on the roof The prancing and pawing of each tiny hoof. As I drew in my head, and bumped into the sash, Down the cold chimney fell Santa - KER-RASH! "Dear" Santa had come from the roof in a wreck, Tracking soot on the carpet, (could've wrung his short neck)! Spotting my face, ol' Santa could see Christmas spirit was lacking in little ol' me. He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work And filled all the stockings, (I felt like a jerk). Here then was Santa, who'd brought us such joy, When I'd been too busy for even one toy. He spied my research on the table all spread; "A genealogist!" He cried! (My face was all red)! "Tonight I've met many like you," Santa grinned, As he pulled from his sack a large book he had penned. I gazed with amazement; the cover, it read Genealogy Lines for Which You Have Pled. "I know what it's like to have Rooter's Bug," He said as he gave me a great Santa hug. "While the elves make the sleighful of toys I now carry, I do some research in the North Pole Library! So these special treats I am able to bring To genealogy folk who can't find a thing." "Now off you go to your bed for a rest, I'll clean the house from this genealogy mess." As I climbed up the stairs full of gladness and glee, I looked back at Santa who'd brought much to me. While settling in bed, I heard Santa's clear whistle To his team, which then rose like the down of a thistle. And I heard him exclaim as he flew out of sight, "Family history is Fun! Merry Christmas! Goodnight!" - Author Unknown Modified by Terri Lamb

Wow! You people are wonderful in responding to my question! I sent this question to several websites and I want to share with you the responses I received. I will check them out as I can get to them. Several of you said you wanted the information too. So here is what I received back. Jane Foley Their is many accounts of the wagon train routes here is a web site with some of the story's of some of the Men and boys going out west during the Gold rush from Illinois, ( http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilschuyl/Oregontrail.html ) looking for some other that I have read , will post when I find them,,,, Richard Graham check out another web site on the California Gold Rush with some of the fellows from Illinois 1848,,,,,,,,,, www.rootsweb.com/~ilschuyl/ look for Schuyler, Co and California Gold Rush first column down almost all the way. Richard This site will provide some of the information you might be looking for: http://www.over-land.com/emigrants.html Roger Jane, Try OCTA@indepmo.org OCTA stands for OR CA Trail Association. They are headquartered in Independence, MO. I think they can help you. Tom Maybe these will help. Winn 1843 Wagon Train Pioneers http://www.peak.org/~mransom/a2m.html ARRIVALS IN OREGON 1852 http://home.netcom.com/~symbios/52intro.html Wagon Train Arrivals as Reported in the Frontier Guardian http://www.rootsweb.com/~iapottaw/WgnTrnIndx.htm Wagon Trains http://www.cyndislist.com/migration.htm#Wagon There were at least a couple of routes that they may have traveled in going from east to west. One would have been the Zanes Trace. The Government hired Col. Zane to blaze a trail through the as yet un traveled way to the west. That trail was nothing more than a path cut though the trees and brush to allow horses and wagons to pass through. There would be stumps left from cutting down the trees. Some places in the route might just be only where Zane and his men hacked at the trees and made marks to show the people where the trail was and where the next people following were to go. Another was the National Road. Which was the first road built "completely" using federal funds. You can find more info on them by going to the following sites. http://www.flintridgevineyard.com/page/page/390943.htm for Zane's Trace and http://www.nps.gov/fone/natlroad.htm for the National Road Mel The Scots-Irish From Ulster and The Great Philadelphia Wagon Road http://www.electricscotland.com/history/america/wagon_road.htm The Great Wagon Road: From Philadelphia to the South http://www.historyus.com/The_Great_Wagon_Road_From_Philadelphia_to_the_South_087517065X.html Jane The only people who MIGHT have kept a list were the suppliers and grocers. Most bought supplies along the way. There are a few books about wagon trains but not many. There one we read about the women going from Mississippi and she kept a diary that was turned into a book. The majority of the women who were/or got P.G. did not make it. I cannot even imagine what those men and women and children went thru. Hope you find records and if you do let me know please. All I can think of is after the Civil War and the Land Lotteries. L Have you tried looking for "wagon trails" using a search engine, such as Google. There are many entries. R Rogers Jane, There are maps on the internet which trace some of the early roads. One early road was called The Federal Road. It went from GA (I think it was Augusta) southwest to AL/MS. You might try a Google search for it. Before the Indians were removed to OK, it was necessary for people who traveled across their land to get a passport. These have survived and have been compiled into a volume called: PASSPORTS OF SOUTHEASTERN PIONEERS, 1770-1823. I do not know if this compilation is complete but at least it will give you a place to look. I don't own a copy but you might be able to get a copy by inter-library loan. Good luck, Dennis Smith As far as I know, no, no record as such. It was more like "if twelve of us all decide to get in our cars and move from Knoxville to Los Angeles, who's keeping the records of who all is moving?" The answer, of course, is that while there are certainly people aware of it, there aren't any official records of it as such. P Great Gateway to the American Westward Expansion: http://www.linecamp.com/museums/americanwest/hubs/great_gateway_west/great_gateway_west.html Missouri River Outfitters: http://www.stjohnks.net/santafetrail/missouririver/outfitters.html Wagon Train: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/WWwagontrain.htm [another] Wagon Train: http://www.factmonster.com/ce6/history/A0851256.html Cyndi's List: Migration Routes, Roads & Trails: http://www.cyndislist.com/migration.htm I would contact the US Dept. of Interior and see what they might have. I would think this would come under them. Might try the Mormons in Salt Lake City, Utah. They keep excellent records S Holland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SaB.2ACI/1658.1.2 Message Board Post: My Cantrell branch only begins during Civil War times and goes backward from there. I haven't traced them forward. You might check with other Cantrell family researchers or with the Maxey, Goad, or Dodson family researchers. A lot of them have done extensive research on the family.

Where would one go to find a listing of the wagon trains that left in the east and went west along with the dates and the people who were on these. I think that they would have had a record back then. I'm not so sure that they survived to this century. Is there anyone that can shed any light on this question? Jane Foley Cornelius, NC

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SaB.2ACI/1658.1.1 Message Board Post: My connection to your family may be on your Cantrell side. Reuben Washington Key and Cynthia Cantrell are my great grandparents.

Wow Jane - thanks for the Dear Santa letter - IT IS SO TRUE!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Foley" <mjfent@bellsouth.net> To: <OKMCCURT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 8:16 PM Subject: [OKMCCURT] Fw: All I Want for Christmas.....Is It True Words?? > > > > ALL I want for Christmas .......................is it true words!! > > > > Dear Santa: Don't bring me new dishes; > > I don't need a new kind of game, > > Genealogists have peculiar wishes; > > For Christmas, I just want a surname. > > > > A new washing machine would be great, > > But it's not the desire of my life. > > I've just found an ancestor's birth date; > > What I need now is the name of the wife. > > > > My heart doesn't yearn for a ring > > That would put a real diamond to shame. > > What I want is a much cheaper thing: > > Please give me Mary's last name. > > > > To see my heart singing with joy > > Don't bring me a red leather suitcase. > > Bring me a genealogist's toy; > > A surname, with dates and a place! > > > > Anonymous > > > > ==== OKMCCURT Mailing List ==== > CONTACT the list admin. at tawshasroots@yahoo.com > Visit the McCurtain county page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmccurt/mccurt.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

ALL I want for Christmas .......................is it true words!! > > Dear Santa: Don't bring me new dishes; > I don't need a new kind of game, > Genealogists have peculiar wishes; > For Christmas, I just want a surname. > > A new washing machine would be great, > But it's not the desire of my life. > I've just found an ancestor's birth date; > What I need now is the name of the wife. > > My heart doesn't yearn for a ring > That would put a real diamond to shame. > What I want is a much cheaper thing: > Please give me Mary's last name. > > To see my heart singing with joy > Don't bring me a red leather suitcase. > Bring me a genealogist's toy; > A surname, with dates and a place! > > Anonymous

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cantrell, Bryant, Matthews, Cockerham Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SaB.2ACI/1658.1 Message Board Post: Hello- Sorry I have nothing on the Davis line, but I would love to know how you are related to the Cantrell's. My father is a Cantrell, and I hae been able to find almost zero information. He is an only child and his parents died before I was born. It pretty much stopped with me! Father: Charles William (Billy) Cantrell. His parents were Bill Cantrell & Thelma Matthews. After Bill died, Thelma married a man named H. W. "Doc" Denison who was ironically from Denison,TX. I know there was an aunt named Rose Cantrell who was an attorney in Oregon I think. There's also a Bill Harrison in Oklahoma, who is named after my father, who is family, but when I contacted them, they were reluctant to start a relationship or share info...probably because my father has ruined his ties to the family through bad behavior. Please let me know & we'll see if there's a match. Thanks so much. If I were able to find out about my family, I would be so grateful. Brandee Cantrell Spoor