In a message dated 8/5/02 10:27:18 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I can only go as far as my grandparents, Nathaniel Hale Shipley and Samantha Ann Doyle Shipley. I know they lived in Heavener area, >> They may be buried without a marker to identify them. I have a lot of family in the Wister area that were buried without markers and there is no way to teel who they are. My grandmother was one of them as well as great grand parents. Eula