> Eula, I really appreciate your help. Ollie Veazey is my grandmother. On the Shipley side though, I'm stumped. I can only go as far as my grandparents, Nathaniel Hale Shipley and Samantha Ann Doyle Shipley. I know they lived in Heavener area, but can't even find where they were buried. Samantha died around 1954 Nathaniel before that. My dad said he was born in Heavener, but I also have a document where he put that he was born in LeFlore. Anyway, thank you again for your help. Sandy in San Diego May you always walk in sunshine. May you never want for more. May Irish angels rest their wings right beside your door.