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    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] Great great Grandmother
    2. Debbie: I could not find any listings for any QUIRK's in any of the cemetery books at the Poteau Library. Sorry about that. Tom S PVGS

    11/22/2002 02:00:50
    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] Herman Mark Taylor d c1937
    2. I found the following entries in the Muse cemetery book at the Poteau Valley Genealogy Society. In Muse Cemetery: TAYLOR, Herman M. 1909-1937 TAYLOR (double stone) Lloyd 1932; Floyd, 1932. Twin sons of Mr. & Mrs. E.E. TAYLOR. In Good Spring cemetery: TAYLOR, Clare, 1899-1974. There were not any other Taylors in that area listed. Good Hunting Tom S PVGS

    11/22/2002 01:57:12
    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] Great great Grandmother
    2. Rebecca Glenn-Dickson
    3. You might try the Latimer County site. Some of those cemeteries out around Fanshawe are very close to Latimer County and they know quite a bit about them ... such as the Wall Cemetery. My cousin's grandparents were from Fanshawe and she (my cousin) married a Quirk, but I don't know anything about the Quirk family. Sorry [email protected] wrote: > > Debbie: > I could not find any listings for any QUIRK's in any of the cemetery books at > the Poteau Library. > Sorry about that. > Tom S > PVGS

    11/22/2002 01:36:04
    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] Glendale
    2. Rebecca Glenn-Dickson
    3. Gary Wilson wrote: > > Wow! > Thank you for all the responses. > On all the maps I can find, Glendale does not seem to exist. We were always told that they built a dam and when it filled ( Wister Lake) it covered the town and nothing remained. We were also told that the Mountainview Cemetery was moved to below the dam. > Was this area always LeFlore county, Choctaw Nation or just Choctaw Nation until Oklahoma became a state? > Peggy, I like it when people go where is that? Not enough people know where things are anymore! History is one of the reasons I love Genealogy. > Thank's again to all of you ! > Gary > PS Is the fishing any good in Wister Lake? > Wister lake fishing is just like any other place ... sometimes great, sometimes not so great. A lot of people fish at the dam, where the water spills out into Poteau River. Many times when the water isn't being let out of the lake, the water on the River side is quite shallow and people crawl out over the rocks and get the big fish caught in between the rocks. There was a Native American cemetery where the graves had to be moved, but not Mt. View. A portion of Glendale may have been taken by the lake as my great grandparents lived out there and part of their land is now underwater when the lake is high, but up on the hill where the church and cemetery are still stands as before. Counties weren't in existance before statehood. Choctaw Nation was a parcel of land given to the Choctaw people. You can find a map of this on the net somewhere, but I can't find it at the moment. Cherokee Nation was to the north, from the border of Choctaw Nation, upwards and through Tahlequah and I think to the KS border but don't quote me on that. If I find the site with those maps I'll send it to you, or maybe someone else has it? Anyway, it wa known as Choctaw Nation until statehood. If you would like to see Glendale on a map I found one at www.mapquest.com I typed in Wister Oklahoma and when the map came up I clicked on the 4th from the right to zoom smaller and then clicked on the SE corner to center it. I'm not sure if it will work or not but you might try clicking on this link: http://maps.infospace.com/_1_FPZU3I045KEDO2__info.whtpgs/kevmap?op=MoveMap&otmpl=%2Fkevmap%2Fmap-out.htm&width=478&height=359&scale=3&detail=2&lat=34.9454&long=-94.8160&lat_p=34.9276&long_p=-94.7517&QA=6+None+St&QC=Wister&QS=OK&QZ=74966&QO=US&XN=&width_o=360&height_o=270&detail_o=0&scale_o=1&matchpass=ZIP&CTR.x=311&CTR.y=154 I hope it works for you.

    11/22/2002 01:33:11
    1. [OKLEFLORE] Wyatte at Mt. View
    2. Rebecca Glenn-Dickson
    3. "A History of the Wister Churches" by Gloryann Hankins Young. (The year shows the year they joined the Mt. View Baptist Church. WYATTE, R. L. 1913 WYATTE, LENA 1913 WYATTE, ADA 1915 (Yes, these were written with an E on the end of the name, which doesn't necessarily make it correct. Do you know who the Lena and R.L. were?) I transcribed that cemetery in '98. I sure wish I had had some of the "old timers" with me as I walked it and wrote notes. But anyway, I wrote some of what I knew about the person, and also transcribed what was written on their stone. Please know that many of these stones were hard to read so the dates may NOT have been written correctly, but I did my best ... brushing the dirt from the stones on my hands and knees and getting as close as possible and then backing up and looking again. WYATT Amanda A. 02-27-1852 11-30-1895 Wife of John D. WYATT I didn't find John in the cemetery.

    11/22/2002 12:52:53
    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] The correct place of a cemetery in Glendale OK
    2. Rebecca Glenn-Dickson
    3. Gary, The directions Billie gave are correct. My father's family grew up there, I ran around those hills after I was grown, I go back often, some of my family lives there and many are buried there. As Billie said, most people from that area call the church and cemetery "Glendale" because it is in the Glendale Community, but as far as the history states it has always been named Mt. View Baptist Church and Cemetery. As stated before, there was a church, cemetery, school, and then there was a small store further down the road, but I don't think there was ever a town known as Glendale. Most people out there were related somehow or another, or their in-laws were related to them. Everyone called the adults "Aunt" or "Uncle". It has always been a part of Howe Oklahoma since statehood, I think, but it isn't far from Heavener or Wister. I do know that the land descriptions are a part of the Howe descriptions. The lake wasn't always there but people from Wister had to cross the Poteau River on a ferry in order to get there. At one time that ferry was owned?/operated by John Balentine, my great grandfather. In answer to your question: I think I would merely put it as Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory ... and then in parenthesis or in the notes perhaps you could expand by stating that the area is now known as Glendale Community, Howe, Leflore County, Oklahoma. Hopefully this will help you. Becky billie adams wrote: > > Gary, I was born and raised in Wister. The > lake/dam is 5 miles out of Wister, the church is > behind the Mt. View Church which is across the > spillway of the dam. It is a beautiful cemetery > and very well kept. > I grew up thinking it was always called the > Glendale Cemetery, and at that time, there was a > school and post office there, but now only the > Church and Cemetery remains. Think William Smith > gave you a pretty good description as to the > whereabouts of it. One description of the location > is: From Wister, OK. take Hwy. 270 East through > downtown Wister and follow signs to Lake Wister. > Cross the dam and turn right on the first paved > road. After winding up a hill, the church and > cemetery is on the right. (confused yet??) > I think I would list that your kin is buried > Mountain View Cemetery, Glendale, IT, now LeFlore > County, Oklahoma. But of course that is my > opinion. > > Gary Wilson wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Gary Wilson. I live in Cortez, Co. > > The Four Corners area. > > My ggrandmother is buried in Le Flore Co. Her name is Amanda Adaline Wyatt. > > One of her daughters, Carrie May, twin to William, born May 8, 1889, in Howe, OK is my ggrandmother. I don't think it should be Oklahoma. > > My question is this-My information shows Amanda passed away in 1894. Buried Mountain View Cemetery, Glendale, Le Flore County, OK. After it became a stae then this would be right. In 1894 was there such a place as Le Flore county and also it was not Oklahoma yet. What would be the proper way to write this down? This area was known as Indian territory right? > > The information I also have is that this cemetery is behind a church next to a dam? and the town of Glendale no longer exists ? > > I do have a picture of her headstone, I just want to get the right location for it. > > Thank you ! > > Gary Wilson > >

    11/22/2002 12:16:01
    1. [OKLEFLORE] GG Grandmother burial
    2. Austin
    3. Hi, I'm new to this list. I just found out a few weeks ago my GG Grandmother Sarah Catherine Quirk died in Fanshawe. I assume she was buried somewhere in this area. I did post this once before and a very nice lady Mildred I believe made some suggestions. I did like she said and checked Genweb for cemetaries. I could not find anything. Does anyone know the cemetaries around Fanshawe, she died in 1893. My GGgrandfather worked for the railroad if that helps. Thanks Debbie

    11/22/2002 12:04:47
    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] The correct place of a cemetery in Glendale OK
    2. Hi Gary, I have the Wister Area Cemetery Book and your Amanda A Wyatt , wife of John D. Born Feb.27, 1852, died 11-30-1895 is listed as buried: Mountain View Cemetery . The cemetery is located south of Wister Lake in the Glendale Community. Section 7, Township 5N, Range 258,. Her grave is located left of the Chapel, going in the cemetery. I hope this helps. Eula (Wooton ) Jones Fort Smith, Ar.

    11/22/2002 11:55:37
    1. [OKLEFLORE] Glendale
    2. Gary Wilson
    3. Wow! Thank you for all the responses. On all the maps I can find, Glendale does not seem to exist. We were always told that they built a dam and when it filled ( Wister Lake) it covered the town and nothing remained. We were also told that the Mountainview Cemetery was moved to below the dam. Was this area always LeFlore county, Choctaw Nation or just Choctaw Nation until Oklahoma became a state? Peggy, I like it when people go where is that? Not enough people know where things are anymore! History is one of the reasons I love Genealogy. Thank's again to all of you ! Gary PS Is the fishing any good in Wister Lake?

    11/22/2002 11:49:33
    1. [OKLEFLORE] Oklahoma territory
    2. Bev O'Toole
    3. Gary; My great grandfather, Mack Franklin's Civil War Pension papers document their move from Crawford County Arkansas to Indian Territory. He gave his address as: Oak Lodge, Skullyville, Indian Territory. (1890) Later that year, it is listed as Cameron, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory. Later, his address was listed as: Poteau, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory. (1905) I would think that if you gave the name of the town and Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory, then you can add a footnote as to the current county and state. that is what I do. Somewhere on this board, someone gave the link to the 1895 map of Indian Territory. Can someone list that again? Catch you later, Bev _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

    11/22/2002 11:47:55
    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] The correct place of a cemetery in Glendale OK
    2. billie adams
    3. Gary, I was born and raised in Wister. The lake/dam is 5 miles out of Wister, the church is behind the Mt. View Church which is across the spillway of the dam. It is a beautiful cemetery and very well kept. I grew up thinking it was always called the Glendale Cemetery, and at that time, there was a school and post office there, but now only the Church and Cemetery remains. Think William Smith gave you a pretty good description as to the whereabouts of it. One description of the location is: From Wister, OK. take Hwy. 270 East through downtown Wister and follow signs to Lake Wister. Cross the dam and turn right on the first paved road. After winding up a hill, the church and cemetery is on the right. (confused yet??) I think I would list that your kin is buried Mountain View Cemetery, Glendale, IT, now LeFlore County, Oklahoma. But of course that is my opinion. Gary Wilson wrote: > > Hi, > Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Gary Wilson. I live in Cortez, Co. > The Four Corners area. > My ggrandmother is buried in Le Flore Co. Her name is Amanda Adaline Wyatt. > One of her daughters, Carrie May, twin to William, born May 8, 1889, in Howe, OK is my ggrandmother. I don't think it should be Oklahoma. > My question is this-My information shows Amanda passed away in 1894. Buried Mountain View Cemetery, Glendale, Le Flore County, OK. After it became a stae then this would be right. In 1894 was there such a place as Le Flore county and also it was not Oklahoma yet. What would be the proper way to write this down? This area was known as Indian territory right? > The information I also have is that this cemetery is behind a church next to a dam? and the town of Glendale no longer exists ? > I do have a picture of her headstone, I just want to get the right location for it. > Thank you ! > Gary Wilson > > ==== OKLEFLOR Mailing List ==== > OKGenWeb Lawmen and Outlaws > http://marti.rootsweb.com/law/law.htm > Indian Pioneer Papers > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/pioneer.htm

    11/22/2002 11:09:54
    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] The correct place of a cemetery in Glendale OK
    2. william f smith
    3. Juanita, I live just off Independence road in Heavener. Mt View cemetery at Glendale is near that fill on the road to Wister lake road and not too far from Lake Wister. and yes is not too far from Howe or Heavener either one. I drive by it often going to Wister from my house Juanita Bradshaw wrote: > Hi, my name is Juanita Bradshaw, I have several of my family members buried > in Glendale Cemetery, I have been there hundreds of times, I dont think I > understand your question, It is not close to a dam, and as far as I know > its always been Mt View Cemetery at Glendale,Oklahoma and its near Howe, > Oklahoma because my Aunt still lives there, You have some people in my book > that use to live in Howe, Just write your info down because your > ggrandmother is there, good luck, Juanita > > At 02:49 PM 11/22/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi, > >Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Gary Wilson. I live in > >Cortez, Co. > >The Four Corners area. > >My ggrandmother is buried in Le Flore Co. Her name is Amanda Adaline Wyatt. > >One of her daughters, Carrie May, twin to William, born May 8, 1889, in > >Howe, OK is my ggrandmother. I don't think it should be Oklahoma. > >My question is this-My information shows Amanda passed away in 1894. > >Buried Mountain View Cemetery, Glendale, Le Flore County, OK. After it > >became a stae then this would be right. In 1894 was there such a place as > >Le Flore county and also it was not Oklahoma yet. What would be the proper > >way to write this down? This area was known as Indian territory right? > > The information I also have is that this cemetery is behind a church > > next to a dam? and the town of Glendale no longer exists ? > >I do have a picture of her headstone, I just want to get the right > >location for it. > >Thank you ! > >Gary Wilson > > > > > >==== OKLEFLOR Mailing List ==== > >OKGenWeb Lawmen and Outlaws > >http://marti.rootsweb.com/law/law.htm > >Indian Pioneer Papers > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/pioneer.htm > > ==== OKLEFLOR Mailing List ==== > OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm

    11/22/2002 10:42:34
    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] The correct place of a cemetery in Glendale OK
    2. Margaret McCleskey
    3. One purpose of giving the location of a cemetery is so that others can find it. I think that you should be using LeFlore County as the location. You could then make a notation that it was formerly Indian Territory. Margaret McCleskey Gary Wilson wrote: > Hi, > Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Gary Wilson. I live in Cortez, Co. > The Four Corners area. > My ggrandmother is buried in Le Flore Co. Her name is Amanda Adaline Wyatt. > One of her daughters, Carrie May, twin to William, born May 8, 1889, in Howe, OK is my ggrandmother. I don't think it should be Oklahoma. > My question is this-My information shows Amanda passed away in 1894. Buried Mountain View Cemetery, Glendale, Le Flore County, OK. After it became a stae then this would be right. In 1894 was there such a place as Le Flore county and also it was not Oklahoma yet. What would be the proper way to write this down? This area was known as Indian territory right? > The information I also have is that this cemetery is behind a church next to a dam? and the town of Glendale no longer exists ? > I do have a picture of her headstone, I just want to get the right location for it. > Thank you ! > Gary Wilson > > ==== OKLEFLOR Mailing List ==== > OKGenWeb Lawmen and Outlaws > http://marti.rootsweb.com/law/law.htm > Indian Pioneer Papers > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/pioneer.htm

    11/22/2002 09:15:50
    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] The correct place of a cemetery in Glendale OK
    2. Juanita Bradshaw
    3. Hi, my name is Juanita Bradshaw, I have several of my family members buried in Glendale Cemetery, I have been there hundreds of times, I dont think I understand your question, It is not close to a dam, and as far as I know its always been Mt View Cemetery at Glendale,Oklahoma and its near Howe, Oklahoma because my Aunt still lives there, You have some people in my book that use to live in Howe, Just write your info down because your ggrandmother is there, good luck, Juanita At 02:49 PM 11/22/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Hi, >Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Gary Wilson. I live in >Cortez, Co. >The Four Corners area. >My ggrandmother is buried in Le Flore Co. Her name is Amanda Adaline Wyatt. >One of her daughters, Carrie May, twin to William, born May 8, 1889, in >Howe, OK is my ggrandmother. I don't think it should be Oklahoma. >My question is this-My information shows Amanda passed away in 1894. >Buried Mountain View Cemetery, Glendale, Le Flore County, OK. After it >became a stae then this would be right. In 1894 was there such a place as >Le Flore county and also it was not Oklahoma yet. What would be the proper >way to write this down? This area was known as Indian territory right? > The information I also have is that this cemetery is behind a church > next to a dam? and the town of Glendale no longer exists ? >I do have a picture of her headstone, I just want to get the right >location for it. >Thank you ! >Gary Wilson > > >==== OKLEFLOR Mailing List ==== >OKGenWeb Lawmen and Outlaws >http://marti.rootsweb.com/law/law.htm >Indian Pioneer Papers >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/pioneer.htm

    11/22/2002 08:31:12
    1. [OKLEFLORE] The correct place of a cemetery in Glendale OK
    2. Gary Wilson
    3. Hi, Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Gary Wilson. I live in Cortez, Co. The Four Corners area. My ggrandmother is buried in Le Flore Co. Her name is Amanda Adaline Wyatt. One of her daughters, Carrie May, twin to William, born May 8, 1889, in Howe, OK is my ggrandmother. I don't think it should be Oklahoma. My question is this-My information shows Amanda passed away in 1894. Buried Mountain View Cemetery, Glendale, Le Flore County, OK. After it became a stae then this would be right. In 1894 was there such a place as Le Flore county and also it was not Oklahoma yet. What would be the proper way to write this down? This area was known as Indian territory right? The information I also have is that this cemetery is behind a church next to a dam? and the town of Glendale no longer exists ? I do have a picture of her headstone, I just want to get the right location for it. Thank you ! Gary Wilson

    11/22/2002 07:49:20
    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] Buck Dawson
    2. Rebecca Glenn-Dickson
    3. Tom, can you tell me a little more about Buck? Was his people from Sebastian County ARK? There is a Dawson Cemetery over there. dogtraks wrote: > > Can anyone send me information about Buck Dawson and his blacksmith shop that > was located in Poteau as late as the early 1950's. It was located behind > where the post office is now located. > Tom Hughes > [email protected]

    11/21/2002 03:33:34
    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] Surname Submission Form
    2. Robert Strong
    3. Marti, I should have had a cup of coffee before submitting my surnames. Please change where my Andersons came from to "Lawrence Co., MO (via Sebastian Co., AR)". Sorry for the mistake. Also, I again tried to submit Branscomb and I still get a query form that makes no sense. Robert Strong

    11/20/2002 11:53:26
    1. Re: [OKLEFLORE] Surname Submission Form
    2. Robert Strong
    3. My first two submittals (Bowers and Anderson) were accepted. But, my third submittal (Branscomb) resulted in a query form with information in the wrong places instead of a summary of the submittal. There may be a problem with the form. Robert Strong

    11/20/2002 11:05:04
    1. [OKLEFLORE] Surname Submission Form
    2. Marti
    3. Hi folks - often requested and now available!!! http://www.rootsweb.com/~okleflor/forms/surname.htm A *very* short list of surnames is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~okleflor/surname/index.htm - submit yours today. You will also find it linked on the main page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~okleflor Cemetery submissions have been flowing in, remember to submit yours. Best, Marti

    11/20/2002 10:34:03
    1. [OKLEFLORE] CANTRELL
    2. Marie: I found the following CANTRELL's in the 1920 Leflore County Census: In Braden Township: DWL# NAME REL RACE AGE BP BPF BPM 141 CANTRELL, Grace H W 25 AR US US Enumerated with Ed LANIER In Octavia Township: 142 CANTRELL, J. C. H W 57 MO MO AR Emma W W 46 MO GA GA Jack S W 17 AR MO MO Teddie S W 11 AR MO MO Clyde S W 6 AR MO MO In Kennedy Township: 217 CANTRELL, Alie H W 29 AR AR AR Beckie W W 29 TX TX TX William S W 7 OK AR TX May D W 1 3/12 OK AR TX This was all of the CANTRELL's that I could find in Leflore County in 1920. I could not find any MAUGHMEY families at all. We do not have the 1930 census available to us yet, it is in the hands of a transcriber and is not in the Library at this time. You can probably find it in your area at your nearest LDS family center or at your local public library. Tom S PVGS

    11/20/2002 03:42:46