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    1. [OKKAY-L] New Maps on the Kay County site
    2. Harriette Jensen
    3. Hi, All. Just wanted to let you know that the Kay County page has been updated to include an 1895 map of Kay County, and plat maps for Blackwell, Kaw, and Longwood townships. I will be adding others in the future. I would appreciate it if you would let me know if you find them useful. Harriette ============================================================ researching: COMBS, DAVIS, HARDIN, HATFIELD, HOISINGTON, MILLS, MOORE, MORRIS, PERKINS, SPURGEON, BERGER (and JONES of Brown Co.OH) HOISINGTON Mailing List. To subscribe, e-mail<hariji@sirius.com> HOISINGTON FAMILY Web Site http://www.genweb.net/~hoisington/index.htm USGENWEB Coordinator for: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okkay/okkay.htm Kay County, OK http://www.rootsweb.com/~oklogan/oklogan.htm Logan County, OK. Co-host for the LOGAN CO. OK Mailing List. To subscribe, e-mail <hariji@sirius.com> http://www.rootsweb.com/~kssumner/kssumner.htm Sumner County, KS

    12/09/1998 03:20:35
    1. [OKKAY-L] Hind / Hinds / Hines
    2. Clif Hinds
    3. I am sorry if this query is old to you, but since I am new to the list, I am sending it again. I am looking for information on my family. Believed to have originally been Hind. Variations of the name include HINDS [My current} HIND / HINES / HYNES / HYND, etc. My direct ancestory was in Beaver County, PA after the Revolution, but may have been descendent from Chester, PA, -- Albemarle, Augusta Counties in VA. Family members migrated through VA, PA, KY, TN, AL, AR, IN. Early names were James, William, Thomas, John, Samuel. At Beaver County, PA (Sewickley and N. Sewickley) John Hind - Revolutionary War [fifer] John, jr., George, Peter, and Jacob. Also Sampson and others. Related families included PIERSOL and OLDHAM. Descendents were known to have moved to Jennings (and surrounding) Counties, IN in the 1830/40 time frame. Included John, jr., Sampson (at least one with that name.), My great great grandfather Jason (also a John) who moved with his family into North Western Indiana. His wife Catherine (Oldham) and some Children are burried in Hemphill Cemetery. Jason died in Remington, IN. My great grandfather and some of his brothers (Includes Roark and George) served in the Civil war from that area. In the late 1800's Roark and his family moved to TEXAS / OKLAHOMA. please see names below. I would like to know what happened to the family and where descendents now live. Also, where was Revolutionary War, John Hind burried. Indiana Census information included: 1860 Indiana Census: Name age sex occupation Birthplace Jason Hinds 41 m farmer Maryland (Birthplace should have been Pennsylvania) Naomi 29 f Maryland (In 1870 census birthplace is Virginia) Samson William 5 m Indiana John Jr 8months Indiana Van Buren 21 m Indiana Roark 18 Indiana Wesley 15 Indiana Melvin 9 m Indiana Mary 5 Indiana 1870 Census: Name age sex Occupation Birthplace Naomi Hinds 38 f Keeping house Virginia Rouark 27 M farmer Indiana John, Jr 10 m Indiana Melvin 19 m Indiana Lilly A. 7 f Indiana Mina 5 f Indiana Samson William 15 m Indiana Roark and his family moved to Oklahoma > ROUARK'S FAMILY Benton County, IN Bolivar Township > Rouark Hinds Age 36 Birthplace Ohio > Emma 32 Wife Ohio > Jessie 8 Daughter Indiana > Poke 6 Son Indiana > Otis 4 Son Indiana > Dub 2 Son Indiana > I am Clif Hinds. Respond to me at my email: hindsclif@mindspring.com

    12/05/1998 02:38:13
    1. [OKKAY-L] ROLLIER and WEYTHMAN
    2. Merle and Allene Niehaus
    3. Hi, Is anyone else searching for ROLLIER or WEYTHMAN? These families were among those to claim land in the Run for the Cherokee Strip in 1893. Thanks, Allene Rollier Niehaus

    11/26/1998 10:54:37
    1. [OKKAY-L] Hawkins
    2. Richard H. Mills
    3. Hi List, I am searching for my Grandmother Rose Irene HAWKINS and G-grandfather Jack Major HAWKINS. Family stories say Jack was a town Marshall in Ponca City OK, Possibly in the late 1800's. The middle name Major was said to have been a nick name. Rose Irene HAWKINS was married 2 times. First to A MCPHERSON and then a MCCORMICK (My branch of the family). I don't know their first names. Any Help would be appreciated. Kathleen McCormick Mills

    11/25/1998 02:48:05
    1. [OKKAY-L] Re: Shot by a Posse at Blackwell 1896
    2. Hugh McCallum
    3. G'day Harriette, As promised, below is an account of the aftermath of the 1896 Blackwell outlaw incident, it was kindly passed on to me by list member Susan Scott. I originally came across the story on the "Oklahombres" page. "Bad Day at Blackwell, The True Story" by Terry Whitehead. Looks like Mr Whitehead was privy to information that wasn't available to the newspaper reporter of the day when he named the dead outlaw Buck McGregg. ----------------------------------- The Times-Record Blackwell, Kay County, Oklahoma Territory, Thursday, Dec 10, 1896 BLACKWELL IS VISITED by Deputy Marshals, Jailors and Sheriffs During the Past Week Since the capture of the two outlaws by Deputy Sheriff Cox and posse near this city on last Friday morning, mention of which appeared in these columns last week, the city has been visited daily by deputy United States marshals, from all parts of the territory, jailers and officers from bordering Kansas counties, and others whose curiosity led them hither to see a dead and a wounded desperado. The identity of the dead man, at this time is still in doubt. some of the visitors who have viewed the remains positively identify them as the notorious outlaw, Dynamite Dick, while others are just as positive that the remains now lying under guard in Blackwell are those of "Skeeter Dick" or "Three-Fingered Jack," or some other equally as desperate man. The wounded man, Ben Cravens, does not deny his identity, but now says positively that his dead comrade is not Dynamite Dick. He knew him as Mack Gregg, and has traveled with him for nearly a year, and was with him at the time of the Guthrie jail delivery, when it was purported that Dynamite Dick was among the number who escaped from jail at that place. At that time Cravens and Gregg as he is pleased to call his partner were operating in Missouri. Cravens further says that he and the dead man had been located near Venita, Cherokee Nation, since last August, where they were making hay and trading horses for a living, until the last few weeks. They passed through Blackwell about three weeks ago, on their way to the Osage Nation and it is very probable that on this trip they had noticed opportunities which caused them to commit the fatal mistake of returning to this vicinity. Cravens' aged father, who had known nothing of the movements of his erring son for the past six years arrived here last Sunday morning in answer to a telegram announcing that Ben was seriously wounded. The horse ridden by Cravens was recognized on Monday, by Fred Gaddie, of Hewins, Kansas, as one which was stolen from him early in November. Mr. Gaddie identified Cravens as the man, who in company with Horse Thief Pete and the unidentified dead man, held up and robbed the store of Hopper & Tweedy, at Hewins, at the time his horse was stolen, and as he happened to be in the store at the time of the above-mentioned holdup and was forced to stand and deliver at the point of a Winchester in the hands of Mack Gregg, his identification is very liable to be correct and authentic. The receipts of this robbery were said to be about $50.00 in cash and $300 in merchandise. The humorous side to this bold robbery, according to Mr. Gaddie, were the orders coming from the man who held the gun, to his confederates, while the work of searching their victims was going on, as he frequently commanded them to "frisk em," or "razzle em." Cravens is a man of more than ordinary intelligence and good business qualifications. He is in the prime of life, able-bodied and of rather prepossessing appearance, and his downfall is possibly due to evil associations, which through choice or chance he has trained with, for the past few years. A noticeable feature which is said to be characteristic of all fugitives from justice, is the searching glance which is cast at every visitor as they enter the room where he lays, slowly recovering from two serious wounds, which would have proved fatal to any man of less vitality and nerve. The bullet which caused the wound in his right shoulder was located near the point of the shoulder blade on last Tuesday evening, and was removed by Surgeons Padon and Elliott and since then his suffering has been greatly alleviated. -------------------------------------------- The previous weeks paper is missing. Blackwell paper is just a weekly. Regards, Hugh _--_|\ email: hewmac@bigpond.com.au / \ web: http://www.users.bigpond.com/hewmac.htm \_.--._/ ___ Hugh McCallum o Melbourne Australia

    11/23/1998 03:01:57
    1. [OKKAY-L] Kay County Page Updated
    2. Harriette Jensen
    3. Hi, All. I'm VERY happy to say that the Kay County Page has finally been updated. We have lots of new surnames, queries, links, and a new bio of John A. Wittmer. Since my eyes have gone blurry from too much computer time (I'm take two computer classes in addition to working on the web pages and mailing lists<VBG>), if you see anything that is not working or needs to be correct, I'd appreciate hearing from you. Enjoy! Harriette

    11/22/1998 02:29:31
    1. [OKKAY-L] Shot by a Posse at Blackwell 1896
    2. Hugh McCallum
    3. G’day from Australia, My grandmother’s surname McGREGG now no longer exists, anywhere! The last McGregg died in Scotland in 1972. Naturally I’m interested in any occurrence of the name. I came across an account of a Buck McGREGG being shot dead by a posse in Blackwell OK on the 4th December 1896. Is there anyone out there who would have knowledge of this incident, would the local newspaper give a clue as to Buck McGregg’s background. Appreciate any help in this matter. Hugh _--_|\ email: hewmac@bigpond.com.au / \ web: http://www.users.bigpond.com/hewmac.htm \_.--._/ ___ Hugh McCallum o Melbourne Australia

    11/18/1998 01:51:18
    1. [OKKAY-L] Family in Kay County
    2. Glynda L. Churchill
    3. Hi, I am researching my father's family. They lived in Kay County from 1921/22 until ????. My father left about 1939, but various members of his family still live there. His immediate family moved to the 101 Ranch in 1921/22 where his father, Amsden Logwood, took care of the generating equipment that supplied power to the ranch. My father graduated from Marland High School in 1935. My mother, now deceased, disliked her family and hated my father's, so I am now trying to catch up on all the loose ends I don't know much about. Thanks for any help. Glynda Logwood Churchill

    11/01/1998 01:49:37
    1. [OKKAY-L] Braman Cemetery / BLASS
    2. Harriette Jensen
    3. >>I am researching a BLASS family, who I found in the 1920 OK Census in Kay >>County. Further research revealed the parents being buried in the Plain >>View Cemetery, described as "3 miles N. of Brahman." >> >>I have two questions: 1) Does this cemetery still exist? If so, what is >>it called now? ( I can't find it by the name Plain View). Hi, Corey The only cemetery I have listed for Braman is the Braman cemetery at 365540N 0971834W. Braman is so close to the Kansas border, could the cemetery be in that state? I also checked the NCOHS book for BLASS and did not find a reference. I would suggest you check with the Pioneer Genealogy Society (P.O. Box 1965, Ponca City, OK 74602-1965) or with NCOHS at http://www.poncacitynews.com/community/localhistory/genhis/ncoha/ or http://www.health.state.ok.us/program/vital/brec.html , which tells you who can get a birth certificate & the fees. You can print a blank application fee from a link on the Kay County web site http://www.rootsweb.com/~okkay/okkay.htm Harriette

    10/29/1998 08:31:48
    1. [OKKAY-L] Re: School House
    2. Harriette Jensen
    3. Hi, Ann. I checked my copy of the NCOHS book for all the schools in Ponca City, and there wasn't one listed for Lakeview Road. Is that far enough out of Ponca that it could have been in another town? Harriette

    10/29/1998 07:53:05
    1. [OKKAY-L] SURNAMES: BROOKHART/SPEER/WRIGHT
    2. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_909732344_boundary Content-ID: <0_909732344@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sorry - as you already guessed, I'm new at this ! Thanks! --part0_909732344_boundary Content-ID: <0_909732344@inet_out.mail.earthlink.net.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <w6uyf@earthlink.net> Received: from relay07.mx.aol.com (relay07.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.7]) by air16.mail.aol.com (v51.9) with SMTP; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:55:37 -0500 Received: from gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.85]) by relay07.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id VAA08186 for <CHINORED@aol.com>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:55:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust79.tnt2.lancaster.ca.da.uu.net [208.255.225.79]) by gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08102 for <CHINORED@aol.com>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:55:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36392A81.FDD36181@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:54:58 -0800 From: "Edward A. Black, Sr. & Ruth M. Black" <w6uyf@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,es,en-US,nl,it,ga,de-DE To: CHINORED@aol.com Subject: Re: BROOKHART/SPEER/WRIGHT References: <29dc8c1.36392551@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit This mssage did NOT go to the list. If you are a subscriber, you need to re- send this message to "okkay-l@rootsweb.com". The address "okkay-l-request@rootsweb.com" is for subscribing / unsubscribing to the list only. Good luck with your search. Listowner. CHINORED@aol.com wrote: > I am looking for information re E. Bascum WRIGHT, died about 1930-1935, > resident of Tonkawa when he died, left behind his wife, Olive Brookhart > Wright, a small daughter (my mother) and a baby son. All attempts with vital > stats, etc. have been unsuccessful. If you are familiar with this person, > please email me direct. > > Also researching BROOKHART, James Robert and SPEER, John Thomas and SPEER, > Robert Carter. > > Thank you > Julia --part0_909732344_boundary--

    10/29/1998 07:25:43
    1. [OKKAY-L] School House
    2. Phillip and Ann Maxson
    3. I was wondering if anyone knows anything about the history of the old school house out by East Ponca Lake (Lakeview Rd..) It is now a residence. My husband's grandfather is said to have gone to school there. Thanks, Ann Maxson

    10/29/1998 10:04:24
    1. [OKKAY-L] Kay County Research
    2. Corey Mead
    3. This is my first post to the list. I previously sent this to "Kay County Query" found on Cyndi's List, so please forgive me if these go to the same place! >I am researching a BLASS family, who I found in the 1920 OK Census in Kay >County. Further research revealed the parents being buried in the Plain >View Cemetery, described as "3 miles N. of Brahman." > >I have two questions: 1) Does this cemetery still exist? If so, what is >it called now? ( I can't find it by the name Plain View). >2) The parents of this family, according to an Index of cemetery records in >Salt Lake City, were: John W. BLASS, b. 1870, d. 1946, and Nellie V. BLASS, >b. 1880, d. 1920. Does anyone here know if there is a local obituary Index >in Kay County, where I could possible get exact dates and then their obits? > >Any help offered would be greatly appreciated. >________________________________________ >Corey > corey@probate.com

    10/28/1998 01:24:33
    1. [OKKAY-L] Braham, Kay County
    2. Does anyone correspond at all to this list. I have only seen one posting and that was today. I have ancestors that were born in Braham, Kay County. Also, two deaths of infants. Does anyone know where I could find information. My great-grandfather, Charles Leroy Southwick, made the run into Oklahoma and settled in Kay County. There were several Southwick children born thereafter. Does anyone have any information on the land runs? They came from Sedgwick County, Kansas. Connie

    10/28/1998 09:52:03
    1. [OKKAY-L] Blackwell, OK.
    2. Ken & Dianne
    3. Is there anyone on this list who lives in Blackwell? If you do, please email me at kcroak@flash.net Thank you, Dianne in TX.

    10/26/1998 06:50:23
    1. [OKKAY-L] Chapman-King
    2. Bill & Carolee
    3. Looking for these 2 surnames. Guy Fredrick Chapman b. August 8, 1907 m. Emily Margaret King. Lived in Blackwell, OK in the 1980's. His S. S. # was issued in OK. They also lived in Winfield, KS and Bremerton, WA and back to OK. Any relatives out there? Carolee cchapman@seward.net

    10/15/1998 03:00:26
    1. [OKKAY-L] Rollier, Weythman
    2. Merle and Allene Niehaus
    3. Searching for info on Rollier and Weythman. Any connections out there? If so, let me have an e-mail. Allene Rollier Niehaus

    10/14/1998 07:10:43
    1. [OKKAY-L] BACHER, SIMMONS, SALLEE, ARMSTRONG, ROADY
    2. I am researching the following surnames in Kay County, OK: BACHER CLARK SIMMONS SALLEE ARMSTRONG ROADY ROSS If you are researching any of these names, please email me and we can compare notes! Lori Bacher Salley

    10/14/1998 06:31:45
    1. [OKKAY-L] James Alexander Webb
    2. Jenny L Tolbert
    3. Hi I hope you can clear up a mystery for me. I have a gggrandfather James Alexander Webb dob 11-2-1853 in Cherokee Co. Alabama or Cherokee Co. Georgia (I believe it is probably Alabama but not sure as I have records for both locals). He married Sarah (Sallie) Agnes Clifton on 2-7-1878 place unknown. James was Methodist preacher in Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma Territory and Oklahoma. He was licensed to preach in March 1878 and was appointed presiding elder of the Birmingham District on January 20, 1892 by Bishop Isaac W. Joyce. On December 1, 1897 Bishop C. C. McCabe transferred him to the Austin Conference. In the fall of 1903 Bishop John W. Walden transferred him to the Oklahoma Conference. The towns he preached in were Deer Creek, Supply, Arnett, Waynoka, Capron, Buffalo, Moreland, Delaware and Kaw City. James died in Kaw City, Oklahoma on June 10, 1922. I have all this information, but I don't know who his parents were, did he have any siblings or if he was born in Alabama or Georgia. I even have a photo of this fine gentleman. Could any one please tell me who his mama and papa were? Since he spent so much time in Kay Co. and died in Kaw City I was hoping someone on this list might be able to help. His death certificate would probably help, but to be honest the cost is a bit more than I can handle at this time. Can anyone tell me another way to get this information? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jenny Lee Tolbert vernab1 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

    09/30/1998 11:30:08
    1. [OKKAY-L] [Fwd: Browns in Kay Co]
    2. Edward A. Black, Sr. & Ruth M. Black
    3. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D40D0D034BF9F14757027B31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------D40D0D034BF9F14757027B31 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by condor.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA06566 for <w6uyf@earthlink.net>; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA20158 for owner-OKKAY@lists2.rootsweb.com; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:07:00 -0700 (PDT) X-From_: Bluesriff7@aol.com Wed Sep 30 03:06:59 1998 Received: from bl-4.rootsweb.com (rootsweb.com [204.212.38.29]) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA20133 for <OKKAY-L-request@bl-30.rootsweb.com>; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:06:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Bluesriff7@aol.com Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by bl-4.rootsweb.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA12671 for <OKKAY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com>; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:06:57 -0700 Received: from Bluesriff7@aol.com by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id QYYBa10656 for <OKKAY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com>; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 06:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <646ced37.36120294@aol.com> Old-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 06:06:12 EDT To: OKKAY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Browns in Kay Co Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 X-Diagnostic: Already on the subscriber list X-Diagnostic: 11 Bluesriff7@aol.com 32746 Bluesriff7@aol.com X-Envelope-To: OKKAY-L-request Looking for BROWN lines in Kay Co.... Mike --------------D40D0D034BF9F14757027B31--

    09/30/1998 07:34:43