I am so happy that someone else is experiencing almost the same identical problems that I am, except the name differs. I just spent 6 hours in the Salt Lake Family History Library looking for my great grandfather on census after census and the Indian Territory 1900 and 1910 as well. I did find a marriage certificate for him so I thought that would start some kind of pattern for me. BUT NO! I guess misery loves company and I could sure use some guidance here too. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ethel" <bandony@yahoo.com> To: <OKGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 12:25 AM Subject: [OKGEN ] John M. Tennell > Evening all, > > I need some suggestions from you. I am trying to > locate info on my great grandfather John Morgan > Tennell. He has been hiding really good! > > I found him on the 1870 Breckinridge Co. KY with his > family at age 9. From then on, he is one big blank! > The family story is he went from KY to TX to OK. But > he apparently avoided the census. > > I haven't found him or his family in 1880, although > there were some land transactions in the 1880's by his > father in KY. He does not show up in 1900 TX or Indian > Territory. ditto 1910. > > I have him on the one census, his death certficate > that shows he died in 1938 and a photo of his grave > stone in Allen Cemetery, Allen, Pontotoc Co., a copy > of the family page from his family bible and a picture > of him. > > That's all I have to say this man lived at one time. > One of my cousins' said he was living with them when > he died. She said her mother had tried to get him to > apply for the Old Age Pension, OK had back in the > '30's, but he wouldn't. He said he "didn't want the > Gov. to know anything about him and he didn't want to > have anything to do With the Gov.". And ya know? I > believe him!! > > Maybe I have been looking on the "wrong side" of the > law! <g> Any ideas? Some indications are he moved into > Indian Territory before 1900. Also, I think he was > married 2 times, somewhere. His wife, Mattie Bell > Watters/Waters was still in her parents household in > 1900, Choctaw Nation, I. T. She was listed as age 30 > and single. > > Help! Where do I go from here? > > Ethel Taylor > > ===== > <bandony@yahoo.com>, <rebelcherokee@hotmail.com> > CRISP-L PRINCE-L OKKIOWA-L OKGenWeb Project, OK/ITGenweb Project - > <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/okkiowa.html> Kiowa County, OK - > <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/itkiowa-comanche-apache.html> Kiowa Comanche-Apache Lands > <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/itcheyenne_arapaho.html> Cheyenne-Arapaho Lands > <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/civilwaIT.html> Civil War In Indian Territory > Personal Page - Rendezvous With Yesterday, http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4231/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! >

Teresa, At least you found a marriage record! I am about 90% sure John was married twice, but so far absolutely nothing on either. When we were on OK last summer, I hit the courthouses for Pontotoc, Hughes, Seminole, Coal, Atoka, Johnston, any place I could think of within a day or so wagon ride from the Allen area looking for info on him/them. Since I can't find him on the "legal" side of the law, I am now looking on the "illegal" side ! <LOL> Even if he turns out to be a black sheep, at least it will be info on him. Ethel --- Kevin Martinsen <ktm@srv.net> wrote: > I am so happy that someone else is experiencing > almost the same identical > problems that I am, except the name differs. I just > spent 6 hours in the > Salt Lake Family History Library looking for my > great grandfather on census > after census and the Indian Territory 1900 and 1910 > as well. I did find a > marriage certificate for him so I thought that would > start some kind of > pattern for me. BUT NO! > > I guess misery loves company and I could sure use > some guidance here too. > Teresa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ethel" <bandony@yahoo.com> > To: <OKGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 12:25 AM > Subject: [OKGEN ] John M. Tennell > > > > Evening all, > > > > I need some suggestions from you. I am trying to > > locate info on my great grandfather John Morgan > > Tennell. He has been hiding really good! > > > > I found him on the 1870 Breckinridge Co. KY with > his > > family at age 9. From then on, he is one big > blank! > > The family story is he went from KY to TX to OK. > But > > he apparently avoided the census. > > > > I haven't found him or his family in 1880, > although > > there were some land transactions in the 1880's by > his > > father in KY. He does not show up in 1900 TX or > Indian > > Territory. ditto 1910. > > > > I have him on the one census, his death certficate > > that shows he died in 1938 and a photo of his > grave > > stone in Allen Cemetery, Allen, Pontotoc Co., a > copy > > of the family page from his family bible and a > picture > > of him. > > > > That's all I have to say this man lived at one > time. > > One of my cousins' said he was living with them > when > > he died. She said her mother had tried to get him > to > > apply for the Old Age Pension, OK had back in the > > '30's, but he wouldn't. He said he "didn't want > the > > Gov. to know anything about him and he didn't want > to > > have anything to do With the Gov.". And ya know? I > > believe him!! > > > > Maybe I have been looking on the "wrong side" of > the > > law! <g> Any ideas? Some indications are he moved > into > > Indian Territory before 1900. Also, I think he was > > married 2 times, somewhere. His wife, Mattie Bell > > Watters/Waters was still in her parents household > in > > 1900, Choctaw Nation, I. T. She was listed as age > 30 > > and single. > > > > Help! Where do I go from here? > > > > Ethel Taylor > > > > ===== > > <bandony@yahoo.com>, <rebelcherokee@hotmail.com> > > CRISP-L PRINCE-L OKKIOWA-L OKGenWeb Project, > OK/ITGenweb Project - > > <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/okkiowa.html> > Kiowa County, OK - > > > <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/itkiowa-comanche-apache.html> > Kiowa > Comanche-Apache Lands > > > <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/itcheyenne_arapaho.html> > Cheyenne-Arapaho > Lands > > <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/civilwaIT.html> > Civil War In Indian > Territory > > Personal Page - Rendezvous With Yesterday, > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4231/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > > Search the Social Security Death Index online for > FREE! > > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the > Internet! > > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > OKGEN-Neighbors > http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/OKGEN-Neighbors > share dOWN hOME rECIPES, clean jokes, thoughts for > the day, etc. > ===== <bandony@yahoo.com>, <rebelcherokee@hotmail.com> CRISP-L PRINCE-L OKKIOWA-L OKGenWeb Project, OK/ITGenweb Project - <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/okkiowa.html> Kiowa County, OK - <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/itkiowa-comanche-apache.html> Kiowa Comanche-Apache Lands <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/itcheyenne_arapaho.html> Cheyenne-Arapaho Lands <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/civilwaIT.html> Civil War In Indian Territory Personal Page - Rendezvous With Yesterday, http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4231/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/