Thanks from northern Calif. We also get sick just knowing what happened. Will forward this around. Grace and Peace to you all. -----Original Message----- From: Alli <aka2@magiclink.com> To: OKGEN-L@rootsweb.com <OKGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [OKGEN ] >I know this is a waste of time, but....I hope no one anywhere will buy his >book. Its a waste of printed paper. >Does anyone have the address to send donations to the Memorial? or to any >listed below? >Alli >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Earline Barger" <ebarger@csweb.net> >To: <OKGEN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 2:23 AM >Subject: [OKGEN ] > > >> For those of you who were here when this happened....I know you will feel >> this! >> The people of Oklahoma have my utmost respect in the way that they have >> handled this catastrophe! This is VERY good! Donna worked the bombing >site. >> She recently >> received a excerpt of Timothy McVeigh's book, and this is her response: >> Dear Friends, >> I will not forward the excerpt from the book that has been written by two >> reporters and a couple of shrinks about Tim McVeigh. It was sent to me by >> someone I respect, and I have checked it out to be sure that the quote >was >> accurate. And, it was. I fully expected to read this book. I wanted to >> know a lot of things. And, I believe that the >> book is an accurate account of what Tim McVeigh has said. I wanted to >know >> why he picked Oklahoma City. I wanted to know if he implicated anyone >else. >> I wanted to >> know if he took responsibility. But, I won't read the book. After reading >> the excerpt I know that it doesn't matter. It won't change a thing. Tim >> McVeigh says, and this is >> the only quote from the man you'll get from me "It was my choice and my >> control to hit that building when it was full. ....I understand what >they >> felt in Oklahoma City . I have >> no sympathy for them." First of all, I don't think Tim McVeigh feels at >> all, and second, no one in Oklahoma City asked for any sympathy of any >kind. >> Least of all Tim McVeigh's. >> >> While he was cowering away from the scene, with ear plugs in his ears, >the >> people of my town were running toward the mess he had created. There >were >> not just 168 >> bodies to be recovered. There were almost 1000 injured people to be >> triaged and helped. That was done. And, it was done with a speed and an >> accuracy that stunned the >> people who came later to help us. Our construction companies had cranes >in >> place within the first hour. >> Our hardware companies turned their shelves over to the effort. Vets >came >> to help with the rescue animals. Doctors came and worked along side >> construction workers and lay >> people. Engineers kept that wreck standing until all but three bodies >were >> recovered And no matter what the conspiracy people say, that was a damned >> miracle. When the wind blew, even a little, that building swayed and >> groaned so loud it was audible for blocks. When other States sent rescue >> units to help us, my town fed them, clothed them, held their heads when >> they vomited at the carnage and comforted them when they cried. Being >close >> to that building wasn't easy during those 19 days. It was bloody, it >stank, >> and it was dangerous. And, in spite >> of this, we had trouble getting people to stand down and take a rest. >Thank >> you, New York Urban, and Phoenix, and Fairfax, and Dade County, and >Denver, >> and Everyone else who came. You showed up on our door step like a good >> neighbor, with your equipment, and tears in your eyes, and we will forever >> be in your debt. You are heroes to the person, and always in my prayers. >> Saint Michael's heart beats in you all. Buildings around the site stood >wide >> open. Their foundations sprung to the extent that their doors wouldn't >lock. >> But, locking the doors wouldn't have mattered anyway, since the windows >were >> all gone. >> There was not one incident of looting. Not one. And, Joe Q. American did >> everything else. By midnight, that first day, we had an ample supply of >> blood for all. I saw people lined up around the Oklahoma Blood institute. >> Hundreds of people lined up, waiting for hours, to donate their blood. >> Business men in suits talked casually to homeless people who felt the >blast >> and came. And, the rescuers didn't just exist on dry sandwiches. Oh no. >> Little Cesar's, and the Outback, and Subway, and local Barbecue and Steak >> houses, and Hooter's, and Taco Bell, and Sonic, and other's too numerous >to >> mention, some from Texas and Kansas fed everyone well. And for free. And >> this wasn't easy. Food had to labeled as to date, origin, and time of >> arrival, and kept clean and cold in a very inhospitable environment. And, >> this was done. Everyone at the site was sick, but it was never because of >> the food. And, by the way, this was all done with a finesse that preserved >> ample evidence to get Tim McVeigh's sorry ass strapped to a gurney and >taken >> care of. That coward won't kill anyone else's babies. While we tended to >the >> needs of the rescuers, the FBI, the ATF, FEMA, and the Oklahoma City >Police >> Department worked around us, and under our feet, sometimes with tweezers, >> and plastic bags, picking up minute pieces of the barrels that held the >> explosives, and pieces as big as the axle of the Ryder Rental truck. They >> were professionals all, and sensitive to our feelings. >> >> When the authors wanted to donate a portion of the proceeds from the book >to >> our Memorial, the Memorial committee quietly said "no thank you." I am so >> glad, and so proud of them. No sympathy, or no money needed here. We'll >> handle it, thank you. Don't buy the book. Send the $20. to the Memorial, >or >> to the Red Cross, or to the Education fund for the children of the >victims, >> or to the Oklahoma City Fire Department, or the Phoenix Fire Department, >or >> Dade County, or to Feed the Children. >> >> This is not about Tim McVeigh. It's about the human spirit. And, it's >> here, and it thrives, and it asks no sympathy. >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== >> Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! >> http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ >> The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! >> >> > > >==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== >OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ >Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm >

--- Ethel <bandony@yahoo.com> wrote: > newphew = nephew -----chacking account=checking should know better than to type this late...brain shuts down, so does spelling!<g> ===== <bandony@yahoo.com>, <rebelcherokee@hotmail.com> CRISP-L PRINCE-L OKKIOWA-L OKGenWeb Project, OK/ITGenweb Project - <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/okkiowa.html> Kiowa County, OK - <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/itkiowa-comanche-apache.html> Kiowa Comanche-Apache Lands <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/itcheyenne_arapaho.html> Cheyenne-Arapaho Lands <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/civilwaIT.html> Civil War In Indian Territory Personal Page - Rendezvous With Yesterday, http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4231/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

Amen to this!My husband was one of the many who were there ...he was a member of the Oklahoma National Guard who were called up to help out. To this day he still cannot watch parts of movies where buildings are blown up and I don't blame him one bit. There are no reasons for what was done. And when McVeigh is put to death there will be one less mindless idiot without a conscience in this world Thank the heavens! This was a very nicely written email and I will share it with my husband as soon as he gets home thank you for writing it. And please pass it on! Shelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earline Barger" <ebarger@csweb.net> To: <OKGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 9:23 PM Subject: [OKGEN ] > For those of you who were here when this happened....I know you will feel > this! > The people of Oklahoma have my utmost respect in the way that they have > handled this catastrophe! This is VERY good! Donna worked the bombing site. > She recently > received a excerpt of Timothy McVeigh's book, and this is her response: > Dear Friends, > I will not forward the excerpt from the book that has been written by two > reporters and a couple of shrinks about Tim McVeigh. It was sent to me by > someone I respect, and I have checked it out to be sure that the quote was > accurate. And, it was. I fully expected to read this book. I wanted to > know a lot of things. And, I believe that the > book is an accurate account of what Tim McVeigh has said. I wanted to know > why he picked Oklahoma City. I wanted to know if he implicated anyone else. > I wanted to > know if he took responsibility. But, I won't read the book. After reading > the excerpt I know that it doesn't matter. It won't change a thing. Tim > McVeigh says, and this is > the only quote from the man you'll get from me "It was my choice and my > control to hit that building when it was full. ....I understand what they > felt in Oklahoma City . I have > no sympathy for them." First of all, I don't think Tim McVeigh feels at > all, and second, no one in Oklahoma City asked for any sympathy of any kind. > Least of all Tim McVeigh's. > > While he was cowering away from the scene, with ear plugs in his ears, the > people of my town were running toward the mess he had created. There were > not just 168 > bodies to be recovered. There were almost 1000 injured people to be > triaged and helped. That was done. And, it was done with a speed and an > accuracy that stunned the > people who came later to help us. Our construction companies had cranes in > place within the first hour. > Our hardware companies turned their shelves over to the effort. Vets came > to help with the rescue animals. Doctors came and worked along side > construction workers and lay > people. Engineers kept that wreck standing until all but three bodies were > recovered And no matter what the conspiracy people say, that was a damned > miracle. When the wind blew, even a little, that building swayed and > groaned so loud it was audible for blocks. When other States sent rescue > units to help us, my town fed them, clothed them, held their heads when > they vomited at the carnage and comforted them when they cried. Being close > to that building wasn't easy during those 19 days. It was bloody, it stank, > and it was dangerous. And, in spite > of this, we had trouble getting people to stand down and take a rest. Thank > you, New York Urban, and Phoenix, and Fairfax, and Dade County, and Denver, > and Everyone else who came. You showed up on our door step like a good > neighbor, with your equipment, and tears in your eyes, and we will forever > be in your debt. You are heroes to the person, and always in my prayers. > Saint Michael's heart beats in you all. Buildings around the site stood wide > open. Their foundations sprung to the extent that their doors wouldn't lock. > But, locking the doors wouldn't have mattered anyway, since the windows were > all gone. > There was not one incident of looting. Not one. And, Joe Q. American did > everything else. By midnight, that first day, we had an ample supply of > blood for all. I saw people lined up around the Oklahoma Blood institute. > Hundreds of people lined up, waiting for hours, to donate their blood. > Business men in suits talked casually to homeless people who felt the blast > and came. And, the rescuers didn't just exist on dry sandwiches. Oh no. > Little Cesar's, and the Outback, and Subway, and local Barbecue and Steak > houses, and Hooter's, and Taco Bell, and Sonic, and other's too numerous to > mention, some from Texas and Kansas fed everyone well. And for free. And > this wasn't easy. Food had to labeled as to date, origin, and time of > arrival, and kept clean and cold in a very inhospitable environment. And, > this was done. Everyone at the site was sick, but it was never because of > the food. And, by the way, this was all done with a finesse that preserved > ample evidence to get Tim McVeigh's sorry ass strapped to a gurney and taken > care of. That coward won't kill anyone else's babies. While we tended to the > needs of the rescuers, the FBI, the ATF, FEMA, and the Oklahoma City Police > Department worked around us, and under our feet, sometimes with tweezers, > and plastic bags, picking up minute pieces of the barrels that held the > explosives, and pieces as big as the axle of the Ryder Rental truck. They > were professionals all, and sensitive to our feelings. > > When the authors wanted to donate a portion of the proceeds from the book to > our Memorial, the Memorial committee quietly said "no thank you." I am so > glad, and so proud of them. No sympathy, or no money needed here. We'll > handle it, thank you. Don't buy the book. Send the $20. to the Memorial, or > to the Red Cross, or to the Education fund for the children of the victims, > or to the Oklahoma City Fire Department, or the Phoenix Fire Department, or > Dade County, or to Feed the Children. > > This is not about Tim McVeigh. It's about the human spirit. And, it's > here, and it thrives, and it asks no sympathy. > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > >

We were at Hobart that spring. Sure remember it. My newphew lived in OKC, and had his chacking account in the building. He left a little early so he could stop in and deposit his check that morning on his way to work. But, a few blocks from home, discovered he had left his wallet at home, so went back to get it. That 5 minutes or so saved his life. Ethel ===== <bandony@yahoo.com>, <rebelcherokee@hotmail.com> CRISP-L PRINCE-L OKKIOWA-L OKGenWeb Project, OK/ITGenweb Project - <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/okkiowa.html> Kiowa County, OK - <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/itkiowa-comanche-apache.html> Kiowa Comanche-Apache Lands <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/itcheyenne_arapaho.html> Cheyenne-Arapaho Lands <http://rebelcherokee.tripod.com/civilwaIT.html> Civil War In Indian Territory Personal Page - Rendezvous With Yesterday, http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4231/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

For those of you who were here when this happened....I know you will feel this! The people of Oklahoma have my utmost respect in the way that they have handled this catastrophe! This is VERY good! Donna worked the bombing site. She recently received a excerpt of Timothy McVeigh's book, and this is her response: Dear Friends, I will not forward the excerpt from the book that has been written by two reporters and a couple of shrinks about Tim McVeigh. It was sent to me by someone I respect, and I have checked it out to be sure that the quote was accurate. And, it was. I fully expected to read this book. I wanted to know a lot of things. And, I believe that the book is an accurate account of what Tim McVeigh has said. I wanted to know why he picked Oklahoma City. I wanted to know if he implicated anyone else. I wanted to know if he took responsibility. But, I won't read the book. After reading the excerpt I know that it doesn't matter. It won't change a thing. Tim McVeigh says, and this is the only quote from the man you'll get from me "It was my choice and my control to hit that building when it was full. ....I understand what they felt in Oklahoma City . I have no sympathy for them." First of all, I don't think Tim McVeigh feels at all, and second, no one in Oklahoma City asked for any sympathy of any kind. Least of all Tim McVeigh's. While he was cowering away from the scene, with ear plugs in his ears, the people of my town were running toward the mess he had created. There were not just 168 bodies to be recovered. There were almost 1000 injured people to be triaged and helped. That was done. And, it was done with a speed and an accuracy that stunned the people who came later to help us. Our construction companies had cranes in place within the first hour. Our hardware companies turned their shelves over to the effort. Vets came to help with the rescue animals. Doctors came and worked along side construction workers and lay people. Engineers kept that wreck standing until all but three bodies were recovered And no matter what the conspiracy people say, that was a damned miracle. When the wind blew, even a little, that building swayed and groaned so loud it was audible for blocks. When other States sent rescue units to help us, my town fed them, clothed them, held their heads when they vomited at the carnage and comforted them when they cried. Being close to that building wasn't easy during those 19 days. It was bloody, it stank, and it was dangerous. And, in spite of this, we had trouble getting people to stand down and take a rest. Thank you, New York Urban, and Phoenix, and Fairfax, and Dade County, and Denver, and Everyone else who came. You showed up on our door step like a good neighbor, with your equipment, and tears in your eyes, and we will forever be in your debt. You are heroes to the person, and always in my prayers. Saint Michael's heart beats in you all. Buildings around the site stood wide open. Their foundations sprung to the extent that their doors wouldn't lock. But, locking the doors wouldn't have mattered anyway, since the windows were all gone. There was not one incident of looting. Not one. And, Joe Q. American did everything else. By midnight, that first day, we had an ample supply of blood for all. I saw people lined up around the Oklahoma Blood institute. Hundreds of people lined up, waiting for hours, to donate their blood. Business men in suits talked casually to homeless people who felt the blast and came. And, the rescuers didn't just exist on dry sandwiches. Oh no. Little Cesar's, and the Outback, and Subway, and local Barbecue and Steak houses, and Hooter's, and Taco Bell, and Sonic, and other's too numerous to mention, some from Texas and Kansas fed everyone well. And for free. And this wasn't easy. Food had to labeled as to date, origin, and time of arrival, and kept clean and cold in a very inhospitable environment. And, this was done. Everyone at the site was sick, but it was never because of the food. And, by the way, this was all done with a finesse that preserved ample evidence to get Tim McVeigh's sorry ass strapped to a gurney and taken care of. That coward won't kill anyone else's babies. While we tended to the needs of the rescuers, the FBI, the ATF, FEMA, and the Oklahoma City Police Department worked around us, and under our feet, sometimes with tweezers, and plastic bags, picking up minute pieces of the barrels that held the explosives, and pieces as big as the axle of the Ryder Rental truck. They were professionals all, and sensitive to our feelings. When the authors wanted to donate a portion of the proceeds from the book to our Memorial, the Memorial committee quietly said "no thank you." I am so glad, and so proud of them. No sympathy, or no money needed here. We'll handle it, thank you. Don't buy the book. Send the $20. to the Memorial, or to the Red Cross, or to the Education fund for the children of the victims, or to the Oklahoma City Fire Department, or the Phoenix Fire Department, or Dade County, or to Feed the Children. This is not about Tim McVeigh. It's about the human spirit. And, it's here, and it thrives, and it asks no sympathy. _________________________________________________________________

I know this is a waste of time, but....I hope no one anywhere will buy his book. Its a waste of printed paper. Does anyone have the address to send donations to the Memorial? or to any listed below? Alli ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earline Barger" <ebarger@csweb.net> To: <OKGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 2:23 AM Subject: [OKGEN ] > For those of you who were here when this happened....I know you will feel > this! > The people of Oklahoma have my utmost respect in the way that they have > handled this catastrophe! This is VERY good! Donna worked the bombing site. > She recently > received a excerpt of Timothy McVeigh's book, and this is her response: > Dear Friends, > I will not forward the excerpt from the book that has been written by two > reporters and a couple of shrinks about Tim McVeigh. It was sent to me by > someone I respect, and I have checked it out to be sure that the quote was > accurate. And, it was. I fully expected to read this book. I wanted to > know a lot of things. And, I believe that the > book is an accurate account of what Tim McVeigh has said. I wanted to know > why he picked Oklahoma City. I wanted to know if he implicated anyone else. > I wanted to > know if he took responsibility. But, I won't read the book. After reading > the excerpt I know that it doesn't matter. It won't change a thing. Tim > McVeigh says, and this is > the only quote from the man you'll get from me "It was my choice and my > control to hit that building when it was full. ....I understand what they > felt in Oklahoma City . I have > no sympathy for them." First of all, I don't think Tim McVeigh feels at > all, and second, no one in Oklahoma City asked for any sympathy of any kind. > Least of all Tim McVeigh's. > > While he was cowering away from the scene, with ear plugs in his ears, the > people of my town were running toward the mess he had created. There were > not just 168 > bodies to be recovered. There were almost 1000 injured people to be > triaged and helped. That was done. And, it was done with a speed and an > accuracy that stunned the > people who came later to help us. Our construction companies had cranes in > place within the first hour. > Our hardware companies turned their shelves over to the effort. Vets came > to help with the rescue animals. Doctors came and worked along side > construction workers and lay > people. Engineers kept that wreck standing until all but three bodies were > recovered And no matter what the conspiracy people say, that was a damned > miracle. When the wind blew, even a little, that building swayed and > groaned so loud it was audible for blocks. When other States sent rescue > units to help us, my town fed them, clothed them, held their heads when > they vomited at the carnage and comforted them when they cried. Being close > to that building wasn't easy during those 19 days. It was bloody, it stank, > and it was dangerous. And, in spite > of this, we had trouble getting people to stand down and take a rest. Thank > you, New York Urban, and Phoenix, and Fairfax, and Dade County, and Denver, > and Everyone else who came. You showed up on our door step like a good > neighbor, with your equipment, and tears in your eyes, and we will forever > be in your debt. You are heroes to the person, and always in my prayers. > Saint Michael's heart beats in you all. Buildings around the site stood wide > open. Their foundations sprung to the extent that their doors wouldn't lock. > But, locking the doors wouldn't have mattered anyway, since the windows were > all gone. > There was not one incident of looting. Not one. And, Joe Q. American did > everything else. By midnight, that first day, we had an ample supply of > blood for all. I saw people lined up around the Oklahoma Blood institute. > Hundreds of people lined up, waiting for hours, to donate their blood. > Business men in suits talked casually to homeless people who felt the blast > and came. And, the rescuers didn't just exist on dry sandwiches. Oh no. > Little Cesar's, and the Outback, and Subway, and local Barbecue and Steak > houses, and Hooter's, and Taco Bell, and Sonic, and other's too numerous to > mention, some from Texas and Kansas fed everyone well. And for free. And > this wasn't easy. Food had to labeled as to date, origin, and time of > arrival, and kept clean and cold in a very inhospitable environment. And, > this was done. Everyone at the site was sick, but it was never because of > the food. And, by the way, this was all done with a finesse that preserved > ample evidence to get Tim McVeigh's sorry ass strapped to a gurney and taken > care of. That coward won't kill anyone else's babies. While we tended to the > needs of the rescuers, the FBI, the ATF, FEMA, and the Oklahoma City Police > Department worked around us, and under our feet, sometimes with tweezers, > and plastic bags, picking up minute pieces of the barrels that held the > explosives, and pieces as big as the axle of the Ryder Rental truck. They > were professionals all, and sensitive to our feelings. > > When the authors wanted to donate a portion of the proceeds from the book to > our Memorial, the Memorial committee quietly said "no thank you." I am so > glad, and so proud of them. No sympathy, or no money needed here. We'll > handle it, thank you. Don't buy the book. Send the $20. to the Memorial, or > to the Red Cross, or to the Education fund for the children of the victims, > or to the Oklahoma City Fire Department, or the Phoenix Fire Department, or > Dade County, or to Feed the Children. > > This is not about Tim McVeigh. It's about the human spirit. And, it's > here, and it thrives, and it asks no sympathy. > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Search the Social Security Death Index online for FREE! > http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ > The most powerful SSDI search engine on the Internet! > >

I also will not buy this book! My Aunt was only 2 blocks away and I watched and tried to call praying none of my family was hurt. But, to share even more. A lady from Tulsa that had an appointment in OKC that afternoon took a picture late in the afternoon of an angel in the sky over the building. I could not believe my eyes when I saw the picture. It reassured me of so many things. May God continue to comfort and give the families of the victims peace and reassurance. Sharon Beamer Roseburg, OR

Hi Marty, This is Rose from CA. Can you do an obit on James Ralph Clark from Quinton, OK. He died in March of this year. He was a coach and administrator throughout the OK schook sysyem. Rose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marti" <marti@rootsweb.com> To: <OKGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:07 PM Subject: [OKGEN ] Bios > New bios at http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ok/Ok2Bios > > > HON. TOOMBS H. DAVIDSON Muskogee Co. > HON. J. W. MARSHALL Stephens Co. > DR. ROSS STATLER CANNON Comanche Co. > BIRT ARTHUR WAGNER Woodward & Ellis Co. > CHARLES W., SHANNON, A.M. Cleveland Co. > CALVIN E., BRADLEY, M.D. Kiowa Co. > Huser & Huser Okfuskee Co. > ELMER C. WHEELER Osage Co. > JAMES A. EMBRY Lincoln Co. > WARREN L. THAYER Harper & Woodward Co. > JOSEPH J. HENKE, M.D. Caddo Co. > DR. G. F. BORDER Greer Co. > > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Online sources for locating a Town or County > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/locatetown.htm >

Hi group: Am forwarding this as I don't do Tulsa. If anyone can answer Jim Parker's inquiry would appreciate it. DO NOT reply to me, please. Thanx, Jacque >From: "Jim Parker" <jparker@foxcroft.org> >Reply-To: "Jim Parker" <jparker@foxcroft.org> >To: <jacque_in_tx@hotmail.com> >Subject: Marriage Lookup? >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:02:06 -0400 > >I am looking for a marriage that took place in Tulsa, OK. after 1926. I >don't know where Bryan County is in relation to Tulsa. I though you might >be able to help me find this record or perhaps, pass it along to a fellow >Genealogy researcher. I am going to give you all the information I have >about this marriage (which isn't much). Groom - Robert Mark Wick >b.1/27/1884 d. 9/7/1962. Bride - Ethel Marie Doty birth and death unknown. >This was Robert Wick's second marriage. Both of these people are originally >from PA. Robert Mark Wick is my Grandfather. Ethel Marie Doty is my >Step-grandmother. Thank you for your assistance. James Wick Parker > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

New bios at http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ok/Ok2Bios HON. TOOMBS H. DAVIDSON Muskogee Co. HON. J. W. MARSHALL Stephens Co. DR. ROSS STATLER CANNON Comanche Co. BIRT ARTHUR WAGNER Woodward & Ellis Co. CHARLES W., SHANNON, A.M. Cleveland Co. CALVIN E., BRADLEY, M.D. Kiowa Co. Huser & Huser Okfuskee Co. ELMER C. WHEELER Osage Co. JAMES A. EMBRY Lincoln Co. WARREN L. THAYER Harper & Woodward Co. JOSEPH J. HENKE, M.D. Caddo Co. DR. G. F. BORDER Greer Co.

MARSH, Evelyn J. Jan. 18, 1942 Holdenville May 24, 2000 Services: Hudson-Phillips Funeral Home, Rev. N. R. SMITH, Yeager Cemetery Parents: Walter and Myrtles (ROSS) MCCOY Married: Robert MARSH on Sept. 24, 1975 in Durant Preceded by: father, brother Floyd MCCOY Survivors: husband, children Jack NUCKOLS, Larry NUCKOLS, Gary NUCKOLS, Mike GAMBLE, Pauline ROBINSON, Lana MCKINNEY, sisters Bea MCDOWELL, Francis CHAMBERS, Ruth Anne TYLER, 3 brothers James MCCOY, Richard MCCOY, David MCCOY, 5 grandchildren DAVIS, Grace CROSBY Age 80 May 24, 2000 Augusta, Kan. Services: Pending Swearingen Funeral Home, Little Cemetery Vickie Neill Taylor flip@okplus.com

Original print Dec. 14, 1930 Death rode the highways. Three men in a Model T Ford car overturned one mile north of the city near the sub station of OG&E killing Neal BROWN and injuring Ike OLIVER and Hobar WHITTON......... Neal BROWN, Ike OLIVER, Hobar WHITTON Carl COTTONER, 22, Carter employee is in Oklahoma hospital in a very grave condition as a result of an automobile accident on the Seminole-Shawnee highway.... Carl COTTONER, Buster ESTRAP In Ardmore, four persons were held in Carter county jail as officers enlisted the aid of peace officers all over the state in searching for a suspect in the slaying of Deputy Sheriff Con KIERSEY. D. I. DAVIS, 21, charged with murder in KIERSEY's death.... Con KIERSEY, D. I. DAVIS, Colquit DAVIS, Cherokee Joe, Marie FOX, Catherine FOX, Hugo ALEXANDER and wife, Vernon CARSON, Mr. and Mrs. Wayne NEAL will leave for Belle-Fountain, Mississippi, where they will be the guests of the former's relatives over the holidays. Mr. and Mrs. Wayne NEAL Vickie Neill Taylor flip@okplus.com

Holdenville Democrat 12-27-1928 pg. 3 "Uncle Tom" Hopes This Will Be His Last Christmas Guthrie, Okla. Dec. 26 (U.P.) When "Uncle Tom" SLOAN awoke Christmas morning, he awoke to celebrate not only Christmas but his 116th birthday. Often consided Oklahoma's oldest citizen, Uncle Tommy has now turned his thoughts toward the world beyond. He wants this to be his last Christmas, he says. Although seldom ill, the cold winter weather is confining Uncle Tommy to his home just as the extreme heat did last summer. Born in 1812, in a small Irish fishing village, Uncle Tommy has spent 16 years of his life in the Old World and an even 100 years in the New. Vickie Neill Taylor flip@okplus.com

Lena: If he knows it coming out on a disk, it must mean that he has submitted FTM file at sometime and when it was put on disks for sale, he was notified. At least I found that out when I first started genealogy on the net and submitted to FTM. When it was put on a disk to be sold, they notified me. Otherwise I don't know anymore. Jacque _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I just got an email from a cousin I found today.. Shockey side, and he said that I could ask on rootsweb, about the books on the Shockey family and said that they would be coming out on computer disks.. Does anyone know who I should ask? Thanks, Lena

That big marker is the geographic center of Oklahoma. its right on the intersection of the main downtown street [ or at least used to be ] in Langston and Indian Meridian Rd. (o:]>* Huggles *<[:o) Billie The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on!

M Graham wrote: > Visual aid - http://www.ca.blm.gov/cadastral/okla.htm I'm very interested in this, but it doesn't seem to work. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Leslie Liddiard lliddiard@nc.rr.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Morning Star, Wampanoag/Cherokee" <mrngstar@starpower.net> > There are several references to 'Meridians' in Indian County however "the" > Indian Meridian was in Oklahoma. Hope these links help. > > Morning Star, Wampanoag/Cherokee > > Indian Meridian (National Integrated Land System - Glossary): > http://www.or.blm.gov/NILS/terms/i/indian-meridian.htm > The principle meridian which governs surveys in all of Oklahoma - except the > 'panhandle' - adopted 1870. [Bureau of Land Management Surveying & Mapping > Terms]. > > Geographic Boundaries Determined For Tax Incentives - Associated with > "Former Indian Reservations In Oklahoma": > http://www.irs.ustreas.gov/plain/hot/atn/reservations.html > > Finding A Map With Only The Land Description - Indian Meridian: > "For all of Oklahoma except the Panhandle, land descriptions are measured > from an initial point about a mile south of old Fort Arbuckle. The original > survey was made in order to divide the Choctaw/Chickasaw Lands into separate > Nations. This point was chosen to divide what was then Indian Territory > about evenly East and West, to be near a well-known landmark and within the > surveyed area.": > http://ceil.rootsweb.com/maps-dot/str-regions.htm > > Absentee Shawnee - (Oklahoma/TGenWeb): > http://www.rootsweb.com/~itsac/migrations.htm > > Wanette And The Cross Timbers: > [Pictures and maps of the Indian Meridian] > http://geography.ou.edu/research/wanette.html > > Cemeteries of Noble County, Oklahoma: > Floral Ridge Church and Cemetery Association organized 1895, Perry, > Oklahoma - west of Indian Meridian: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknoble/cemetery.htm

Original print Dec. 13, 1930 Details of a criminal attack on a 14-year-old girl were told to a prominent city attorney who immediately caused the arrest of Tom JONES..... Tom JONES Mr. and Mrs. E. CUTSINGER were victims of hijackers held up in their own home. .... Mr. and Mrs. E. CUTSINGER One week from last night, R. H. CASE will lead approximately 50 workmen out of the new Seminole High School building after eight months of work... R. H. CASE Three people, two of whom are expected to die, are in Harber hospital suffering from severe burns received on an unfrequented road neat Mission when the car in which they were riding..... Grady SIMS, Rex SOMERVILLE, Floyd DAVIS, Ruth CRUMLEY, J. T. SIMS, George DAVIS Vickie Neill Taylor flip@okplus.com

Thanks everyone for your help on better defining the Indian Meridian for me. It is greatly appreciated. Leslie Liddiard lliddiard@nc.rr.com