In a message dated 5/9/2001 2:39:05 PM Central Daylight Time, TKnapp8365@aol.com writes: << As you can see I posted this to a few lists. I am hoping to give my husband something really great for Father's Day this year. I will keep looking and posting until I find his father or until I can no long type or write. >> Good luck honey, I have been looking for mine for years and I am no closer now than when I started Sincerely J.J. "One's ability is limited only by their Knowledge"

As you can see I posted this to a few lists. I am hoping to give my husband something really great for Father's Day this year. I will keep looking and posting until I find his father or until I can no long type or write. Looking for: We are looking for a Frank Knapp born about 1924 in Texas. In 1952 he married a Mary J. Buckmaster. At the time of their marriage Frank's occupation is listed a a Newspaper Reporter. They had on child, a son named Frankie Joe Knapp in 1953. In 1957 they lived in Chicago, Illinois. In July of 1957 Frank and Mary divorced. Frank was described as 5 feet 11 inches tall, dark hair, blue eyes, tattoo on both arms. On his right arm at the elbow is a tattoo that says "Baby Frankie." Frank worked at Reliable Packing Company on 47th & Bishop. Which at the time the family lived within walking distance from the packing company. We know that Frank had family in Oklahoma and Texas, but we cannot find anyone that admits to knowing him. We do not care what he may have done in the past. We do know that Frank remarried soon after his divorce from Mary and had at least one child, a girl. She was burned by scalding water on one side of her body. Other than that we do not know anything about her. Frank had three sisters, Edith, Lillian, and Doris. He also had a brother named Dan. After the divorce my husband never saw his father again, as far as he knows. Please if you know Frank or anyone in the family contact me. My husband is in his 40's and wants to know something about his father and the family.

Surname: CLUCK, Phillips, Young CLUCK, Henry Gene Medford Mail Tribune, OR 05-08-2001 The memorial service for Henry Gene Cluck will be at 5 p.m. Wednesday at Heaven Bound Church in White City. Pastor John Tiffe will officiate. Mr. Cluck, 71, of Central Point, died Saturday (May 5, 2001) at Three Fountains Nursing Center in Medford. Memorial contributions may be made to the American Cancer Society, P.O. Box 698, Medford, OR 97501. He was born March 15, 1930, in Ada, OK, the son of Joseph and Mollie Cluck. On April 24, 1954, in Springfield, OR, he married Jean R. Phillips, who survives. They moved to the Rogue Valley in 1962 from Redmond, WA. Mr. Cluck was an asphalt palnt operator for 45 years. He worked at LTM for 32 years, retiring in 1993. He served in the U.S. Army from 1948 to 1949. Mr. Cluck was a member of Heaven Bound Church and Local Union No. 701. He enjoyed hunting, fishing and welding. Survivors, in addition to his wife, include a son, John T., Tallahassee, FL. He was preceded in death by a son, Michael J.; and a sister, Jo Ella Young. Arrangements: Rogue Valley Funeral Alternatives and Crematory. Howard Grisso SMITH KANE BATESEL MOLLOY MORRISON Medford, OR ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com

just had to add my 2 cents<G>since ancestry.com now owns roots web, i doubt it will be long! that will really be a shame and send me back to snail mail in a hurry or else i'll just call it a day with what i have, nobody in my immediate family cares about geneaology anyway. and i'm tired of beating my head against brick walls.

Nobody in the immediate family may care, but what about the generations to come? If we give up now, what will happen later? What are we doing genealogy for? Ourselves? Our Ancestor's? Or Our descendants? Someone, somewhere has what you need....Ancestry.com, Genealogy.com, FamilyTree.com.....they all got the info. somewhere. Plus, if you complain to them enough about not having access or limited access....it might change. Alli :) Researching: ABRAM, JOHNSON, PHARISS, ADAMS, LOVELL, McKAY, McCALL, WHITE, THOMPSON. All ended up in Okla. around Chelsea/Tulsa. PAMPERED CHEF CONSULTANT ----- Original Message ----- From: "rose haun" <rosezlla@webtv.net> To: <OKGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [OKGEN ] Ancestry.com > just had to add my 2 cents<G>since ancestry.com now owns roots web, i > doubt it will be long! that will really be a shame and send me back to > snail mail in a hurry or else > i'll just call it a day with what i have, nobody in my immediate family > cares about geneaology anyway. and i'm tired of beating my head against > brick walls. > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > OKGenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/ > PhotoGallery - http://marti.rootsweb.com/photogallery/index.htm > >

I have seldom found anything worth paying for a membership. About once or twice a year they have an interesting database that comes online. Oh Well, it was fun while it lasted.. I may be in the minority but, I have never found anything at this site that wasn't free somewhere else. I was a member for a year and what a wasted $70. All their census data that I needed was indexes only and I can go to censuslinks.com and get even actual images of censuses. Thanks for letting get some steam out of my system. Just waiting until rootsweb starts charging. Howard Grisso SMITH KANE BATESEL MOLLOY MORRISON Medford, OR ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com

Thanks Sharon! Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Beamer" <skbeamer@mcsi.net> To: <OKGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [OKGEN ] Look up Lemmons > Vicki: I couldn't find anything. Maybe search some of the OK cemeteries > online. > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Oklahoma Vital Records Information - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/vital/vital.html > Oklahoma Census Records - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/census.htm >

Dear Shelia-I noticed your list of surnames at the end of your post & I thought should write.I know of a family with the last name of GUPTILL who lives in Stockton,Ca.I don't know anything about their background &/or where they came from.If you think you may be a relative,please reply & I will send their address information to you so you might get in touch with them. http://community.webtv.net/KeplinSchwick/ Regards- Ms.Keplin K. Schwick

I also agree with the general comments made about Ancestry.com. I have almost NEVER gotten any information from their database.And when I did get a tiny bit of info,I already had it.I most certainly will not pay a membership for information I can get elsewhere for free. http://community.webtv.net/KeplinSchwick/ Regards- Ms.Keplin K. Schwick

http://international.loc.gov/ammem/afctshtml/script.html http://www.newdeal.feri.org/misc/taylor.htm Don't know if these sites might help. My Grandparents (Duncan's) were also cotton pickers, migrant farm workers They had a farm in Farmersville Texas and lost it during the dust bowl days moved on to Oklahoma to pick Cotton and then most of the family went to Calif. I wish I knew more but almost everyone who knows anything has passed on. Angela

I just heard from a distant relative that sharecroppers were paid in cash but still had to register with the farmer that they worked for as being an employee with them the individual farmer paying them for services!? With that said, I wonder if they recorded these records anywhere other than with themselves? For instance, did they have to leave a list of employees with the big company buyers that bought their goods? To prove that they could get the job done within the time required? My Gramma picked cotton for several years after her mother died in 1918. Gramma was 13 at the time of her mother's death waiting for her Dad to arrive from Arkansas. He received the word that his X-wife had died almost a year after the fact. Leaving their only child without any parental guidance or assistance in life except for kind neighbors that took her in ... [I think?] I truly don't know!? Maybe an orphanage ... but I know she did "Pick Cotton" for several years either prior to her 1st marriage or even during her 1st marriage. In the Howe area of Oklahoma, was Cotton being raised? Was there such an arrangement with Cotton growers as to how you [the picker of the Cotton - " I could of said " Cotton Picker :o) ] the worker, paid? Gramma picked Cotton for 2 years or more during the late 1910's between 1919 - 1925 from what I understand through stories, this happened before she left the area of Howe! Maybe not in Howe, maybe somewhere in S.E. Oklahoma!? Any suggestions as to where to look for more facts and clues on this subject? I hope I explained that well enough? Shelia C. BACHELDER webachel@wolf.co.net Researching: Paternal: TRIMBLE, BAKER, SMITH, HOLDREN, McCOY, LANTZ, SHIMER Maternal: HARB*SON, MITCHELL, YORK, VAUGHT, HATFIELD, TWEEDLE, SIMS Others: COPELAND, BACHELDER, AUDET, RAYMOND, LOVEJOY, GUPTILL, CARNAHAN

Kathy wrote: > Billie from what I am hearing at > seminars...Ancestry had to borrow multi > million dollars from their investors to keep > it going. Oh dear! I've been afraid of this. Guess I better cough up membership money... Alison Stevens _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Billie from what I am hearing at seminars...Ancestry had to borrow multi million dollars from their investors to keep it going. They have fired at least 100 people at this point. And that the free search times were going to cease. Good luck in your search Kathy

Thank You so very much Carma

Billie, If you want to search Tn. marriages you can for free at; tngenweb.org Scroll to the state search engine should get you what you need. Happy free hunting. Anta in Tn.

Hello Iam looking for information on John newton Ritter and Emma Elizabeth Harris . John was born in monroe county Miss. Emma in Ala. They were married in monroe co. Miss. I found one John Newton Ritter but he was married to a Mary Pickel, Their children dont match so it was the wrong line. John and Emma lived in Scott county Ark. and in Ok. He died in 1911 in Ardmore, ok. Children of John and Emma were Timonthy Waren,, Jim ( James Robert),,Molly Floyd,,Laura Ann,,Benjamin Franklain (ben),, Allie,,and Willie. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thank you Carma

Hello Iam looking for any information on John Newton Ritter born 1840 monroe co. Miss, Married to emma Elizabeth Harris , no date in monroe co. they lived in Ark. and their Later years in Ok. John died in 1911 in a old soliders home in Ardmore Ok. Any info would be appreciated. Their Parents/bothers/sisters/ thank you Carma

Thank you Sharon. That's not completely out of the realm of possibility but its pushing the limits. Earliest known child of my John and Mary was born ca 1867. Might be a good place to start looking. Shelby County is a lot smaller than Tennessee. (o:]>* Huggles *<[:o) Billie The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on!

Hi , Can anyone do a death look up for me on a Sally Gooden- Lemmons,born in TN , married Thomas Lemmons about 1868 & he died in Grayson County, TX ,1911 ,buried in Westhill Cemetery & Sally is not. Some of their children settled in Marshall county OK, I cannot find when Sally Gooden-Lemmons died or where she is buried. Maybe Sally was buried in OK or another county next to Grayson,TX? I have not been able to locate it. Thanks for your help. Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Beamer" <skbeamer@mcsi.net> To: <OKGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [OKGEN ] Ancestry > Billie: I don't know. I just checked my daily email and it didn't say free > and neither does the site. I am a member can I do a look up for you? > Sharon Beamer > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Accidentally unsubscribed from the OKGenWeb list? Simply resubscribe. A > full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be unsubscribed. > mailto:okgen-l-request@rootsweb.com >

Thanks Sharon. I was just half interested in one of their new databases. Tennessee Marriages for Welch/Walsh, John H. to Mary Margaurite _________ circa 1865/1866. They are my brick wall on that line. I have seldom found anything worth paying for a membership. About once or twice a year they have an interesting database that comes online. Oh Well, it was fun while it lasted.. (o:]>* Huggles *<[:o) Billie The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on!