Sunday, January 19, 2003 DORITY, WILLIAM 'FRANK' William "Frank" DORITY, 69, of Muldrow, He died Wednesday, Jan. 15, 2003, in Oklahoma City. KILLIAN, SELF, CONZLEY. LaFaye Mildred TREAT, 83, of Muldrow, was born March 23, 1919, in Fort Smith, Ark., to Thomas Burton SHACKELFORD and Lois (SCOTT) SHACKELFORD. She died Tuesday, January 14, 2003, in Roland. She married James Everett TREAT Sr. on Nov. 5, 1937, in Fort Smith. He preceded her in death on Nov. 3, 1981. HOWARD, PINKERTON, CHISUM, JOHNSON, Charles WELLS, 72, of Sallisaw, was born April 7, 1930, in Sallisaw, to David William WELLS and Mattie Mae (ALLEN) WELLS. He died Tuesday, Jan. 14, 2003, in Sallisaw. YOUNG, KEITH, REESE, JORDAN, MARTIN, WOFFORD Thursday, January 23, 2003 Mary L. CORBIN, 87, of Fort Smith, Ark., was born March 2, 1915, to John Henry JAMES and Rose Ella (BROOKS) JAMES. She died Sunday, Jan. 19, 2003, in Fort Smith, Ark. SETZER, HARVELL, CUSICK, JAMISON, Rhonda Marlene POWELL, of Wasola, Mo., formerly of Sallisaw, was born April 1, 1963, in Sallisaw, to John E. POWELL and Shirley (WOODY) JENKINS. She died Friday, March 8, 2002, in Springfield, Mo. JENKINS, THIGPEN, Dewayne RANDOLPH , 50, of Pocola, was born Aug. 17, 1952, in Sallisaw, to Silas and Byrd (MILLER) RANDOLPH. He died Saturday, January 18, 2003, in Fort Smith, Ark. McCLENDON, HAYES, HIGGINS, BOWEN Patricia A. "Pat" ROTHWELL, 56, of Alma, Ark., died Monday, Jan. 20, 2003, in Alma. DUQUETTE. Julius "Red" TURNER, 55, of Arkoma, died Sunday, Jan. 19, 2003, in his home. WARSOWICK, HATLEY, WILHEIM Margurette M. (TODD) WEBB of Fort Smith, Ark., was born to John Albert TODD and Daisy Pearl (RUSSELL) TODD in Sallisaw. She died Sunday, Jan.. 19, 2003, in Fort Smith. She married Leland WEBB in Sallisaw. He preceded her in death on Oct. 9, 1996. REMY,

Oh and one more thing. I once had to call them because I got that message, and I found out I had 2 different user names and passwords with them!! Connie

In a message dated 2/5/2003 4:43:09 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I am a paying user for the census, but it keeps telling me I need to upgrade > to that, and I am only a registered guest. Lena > Lena, It will do that to me sometimes, but just to the right of that screen it has a place to log in again if you are a member. So far that has worked for me. Connie

I am a paying user for the census, but it keeps telling me I need to upgrade to that, and I am only a registered guest. Lena

A Grandparents Wish...... We tried so hard to make things better for our kids that we made them worse. For my grandchildren, I'd like better. I'd really like for them to know about hand me down clothes and homemade ice cream and leftover meat loaf sandwiches. I really would. I hope you learn humility by being humiliated, and that you learn honesty by being cheated. I hope you learn to make your own bed and mow the lawn and wash the car. And I really hope nobody gives you a brand new car when you are sixteen. It will be good if at least one time you can see puppies born and your old dog put to sleep. I hope you get a black eye fighting for something you believe in. I hope you have to share a bedroom with your younger brother/sister. And it's all right if you have to draw a line down the middle of the room, but when he wants to crawl under the covers with you because he's scared, I hope you let him. When you want to see a movie and your little brother/sister wants to tag along, I hope you'll let him/her. I hope you have to walk uphill to school with your friends and that you live in a town where you can do it safely. On rainy days when you have to catch a ride, I hope you don't ask your driver to drop you two blocks away so you won't be seen riding with someone as uncool as your Mom. If you want a slingshot, I hope your Dad teaches you how to make one instead of buying one. I hope you learn to dig in the dirt and read books. When you learn to use computers, I hope you also learn to add and subtract in your head. I hope you get teased by your friends when you have your first crush on a boy\girl, and when you talk back to your mother that you learn what ivory soap tastes like. May you skin your knee climbing a mountain, burn your hand on a stove and stick your tongue on a frozen flagpole. I don't care if you try a beer once, but I hope you don't like it. And if a friend offers you dope or a joint, I hope you realize he is not your friend. I sure hope you make time to sit on a porch with your Grandma/Grandpa and go fishing with your Uncle. May you feel sorrow at a funeral and joy during the holidays. I hope your mother punishes you when you throw a baseball through your neighbor's window and that she hugs you and kisses you at Hannukah/Christmas time when you give her a plaster mold of your hand. These things I wish for you -- tough times and disappointment, hard work and happiness. To me, it's the only way to appreciate life. Written with a pen. Sealed with a kiss. I'm here for you. And if I die before you do, I'll go to heaven and wait for you.

Thursday, January 16, 2003 Robert COOKE, 40, of Sallisaw, was born Aug. 4, 1962, in San Diego, Calif. to Emily BOVEE. He died Saturday, Jan. 11, 2003, in Sallisaw. He married Rhonda Rhoana SUTTON on Dec. 2, 2002, in Arkansas. HUTCHINSON Alta Mae CURTIS, 77, of Shady Point, died Sunday, January 12, 2003, in Sallisaw. She was born Dec. 26, 1925, in Daisy, to Isac and Josie (LOFTON) JACKSON. She was preceded in death by her husband, Granville CURTIS; HORTON . BRADSHAW. Johnny DOWNS, 28, of Sallisaw, was born April 29, 1974, in the Ft. Campbell, Ky., to Kenneth DOWNS and Debbie (KECK) DOWNS. He died Friday, Jan. 10, 2003, in Sallisaw. KENDRICK, DAMRON, JONES, HILLIARD Frank Henry FARMER, 92, of Muldrow, was born Dec. 2, 1910, in Hanson to Lee FARMER and Mary (MEEKS) FARMER. He died Friday, Jan. 10, 2003, in Sallisaw. He married Emma Jane LEE on Feb. 5, 1944, in Muldrow. WADE, BROWN, RAMEY, LEWIS, HOLT.. Lee FORSLUND, 73, of Gans, died Sunday, January 12, 2003, in Sallisaw. He was born Sept. 19, 1929, in Minden, Neb. to Emil Lenus FORSLUND and Pearl (WEBSTER) FORSLUND. He married Ruth Louise EWIN on May 28, 1949, in Minden, Neb. She preceded him in death on April 17, 1981. NEWSOM, YENTER, Arlis Robert JONES, 56, of Crawfordville, Fla., formerly of Sallisaw, was born Sept. 7, 1946, in Fort Smith, Ark., to Arlis Eugene JONES and Pauline G. (GIBSON) JONES. He died Wednesday, January 8, 2003, in Tallahassee, Fla. MOON Michael V. PRICE, 54, of Spiro, was born Dec. 11, 1948, in Cartersville. He died Wednesday, Jan. 8, 2003, in Spiro. DODGE, FRANKLIN, GLORY, POWERS, ERWIN, Myrle McLELLAN SHELTON, 79, of Oklahoma City, was born Aug. 29, 1923, in Pawhuska, to Jack McLELLAN and Myrtle (MARSHELL) McLELLAN. She died Sunday, January 12, 2003, in Oklahoma City. . She married Cecil SHELTON on Feb. 15, 1946, in Stillwater. KING, JORDAN, J.L. WILHELM, 67, of Fort Smith, Ark., was born Nov. 28, 1935, in Charleston, Ark. He died Thursday, Jan. 9, 2003, in his home. BALLARD, TRUETT, LOWE, POLLOCK.

Good map, also, Marti. You guys STiLL fighting over Greer County?? hehe See, I could go either way - I have family from both OK and TX. So, leave me out of this!! <g> Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marti" <[email protected]> > And this is the clickable map of Oklahoma made several years ago for OKGenWeb > (and still very workable) which shows Greer Co. where it should be.. <g> > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/maps/okmap.htm > > > = = = Original message = = = > > This map was recently made by Chuck Bluhm for TX. It's a great clickable map > - > and with TX being soooooo big, it must have been a lot of work to make. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/map/txmap.htm >

And this is the clickable map of Oklahoma made several years ago for OKGenWeb (and still very workable) which shows Greer Co. where it should be.. <g> http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/maps/okmap.htm = = = Original message = = = This map was recently made by Chuck Bluhm for TX. It's a great clickable map - and with TX being soooooo big, it must have been a lot of work to make. http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/map/txmap.htm ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ Becky north Idaho *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* "Just as eating against one's will is injurious to health, so study without a liking for it spoils the memory, and it retains nothing it takes in." Leonardo Da Vinci My personal genealogy site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ouryorks The URL of YORK: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allyorks Jefferson County, OK CC & listmom http://www.rootsweb.com/~okjeffer/ Brown County, TX CC & listmom http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbrown/ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== Accidentally unsubscribed from the OKGenWeb list? Simply resubscribe. A full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be unsubscribed. mailto:[email protected] ___________________________________________________________ Sent by ePrompter, the premier email notification software. Free download at http://www.ePrompter.com. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Sunday, January 12, 2003 Kathleen Virginia CLAYTON, 47, of Spiro, was born Aug. 3, 1956, in Pocola, to Walter and Helen (JONES) MASSEY. She died Monday, Jan. 6, 2003, in her home. She married Samuel CLAYTON. McKINNEY, WASHINGTON, . Johnny Lee HUDDLESTON, 51, of Roland, died Monday, January 6, 2003, in Pine Bluff, Ark. BINGE, HARBOR, TEAGUE,. HOWARD, THORNBURG, WHEELER, Arlis Robert JONES, 56, of Crawfordville, Fla., formerly of Sallisaw, was born Sept. 7, 1946, in Fort Smith, Ark., to Arlis Eugene JONES and Pauline G. (GIBSON) JONES. He died Wednesday, January 8, 2003, in Tallahassee, Fla. Flossie Juanita NEAL, 90, of Sallisaw, was born Nov. 17, 1912, in the Hanson community, to Welborn B. WOODWARD and Anna Lahoma (SUTTON) WOODWARD. She died Wednesday, Jan. 8, 2003, in Sallisaw. She married Carl Hicks NEAL on Dec. 15, 1935, in Muldrow. He preceded her in death on Aug. 21, 1993. CHRISTOPHER, CHEEK, FISHER, HENDRIX,

Dear Members: Please inform me whether this is legal or wanted on the list. The following ... information came through another list I'm on ... I'll be sending more titles if wanted or requested when I have the time and allowed on the list as source material. Feel free to go to your local library if anyone is interested in looking them up, I'm interested in your findings if successful in locating any of the titles. ------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Three Hundred Years in Innishowen, Being More Particularly an Account of the > Family of Young of Culdaff with Short Accounts of Many Other Families > Connected with Them", by Amy Young, 1929, The Linenhall Press, Belfast, 311 pages. > Some of the names included are Young, Hart, Harvey, Cary, Vaughan, McLaughlin, Skipton, Richardson, Knox, Ussher, Smith, Nesbitt, Chichester, Ball, Lawrence, Crofton, Boyd, Stuart and many others. -------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the first of several on the list if found in local Libraries is considered a 'TRUE' find. I feel they'll be of much help to some of the related Surnames from this list. Other than that, I'm afraid to share the fact that this gentleman offering the information is doing so at a price. Selling it page by page through written correspondence or ... dare I guess, some other means of payment. I choose to send the titles in an effort to help those looking for their ancestors ... however, if your interested in the larger list of books, I'll send you his name and address along with e-mail and you can contact him over other topics he claims to have. Personally, I refuse to pay for this info. even if it contains my families related surnames. "The library and I, are very good, dear Old Friends." I didn't get into this 'Hobby' for a profit nor did I expect to achieve greatness either by doing my research for personal use. However, this shows another example of profiteering off the backs of past researchers. Sorry for the speech, I'm a bit angry over the issue and struggled with whether to place the titles at all. Shelia [email protected]

All of Old Greer county is now within OK. The disputed boundary was with branch of the Red River should be the dividing line. Texas claimed the North Fork of the Red River as the main Channel and northern boundary and the 100th Meridian as the western boundary. The main channel of the Red River was the Southern Boundary of Old Greer County. It took a Supreme court decision to make the current boundary. Gene At 10:32 AM 2/3/03, you wrote: >It should be noted that Greer County is now part of Oklahoma -- this is a map that shows Greer County when it was considered part of Texas. Today, that area includes the present day counties of Beckham, Greer, Harmon, and Jackson in Oklahoma, as well as parts of adjoining present day counties in Texas. > >Peggy > > > >Rebecca York wrote: > >>This map was recently made by Chuck Bluhm for TX. It's a great clickable map - and with TX being soooooo big, it must have been a lot of work to make. >> >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/map/txmap.htm >> >> >>^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ >>Becky >>north Idaho >>*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* >>"Just as eating against one's will is injurious to health, so study without a liking for it spoils the memory, and it retains nothing it takes in." >>Leonardo Da Vinci >> >>My personal genealogy site >>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ouryorks >>The URL of YORK: >>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allyorks >>Jefferson County, OK CC & listmom >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~okjeffer/ >>Brown County, TX CC & listmom >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbrown/ >>~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ >> >> >>==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== >>Accidentally unsubscribed from the OKGenWeb list? Simply resubscribe. A >>full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be unsubscribed. >>mailto:[email protected] >> >>. >> >> > > > > >==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== >OKGenWeb - The Place To Start Your Oklahoma Search >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/index.htm

Yes, and the person who made the map knows that. It's just that Greer Co was a big part of TX history, also. Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne & Peggy Horton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [OKGEN ] TX map > It should be noted that Greer County is now part of Oklahoma -- this is > a map that shows Greer County when it was considered part of Texas. > Today, that area includes the present day counties of Beckham, Greer, > Harmon, and Jackson in Oklahoma, as well as parts of adjoining present > day counties in Texas. > > Peggy > > > > Rebecca York wrote: > > >This map was recently made by Chuck Bluhm for TX. It's a great clickable map - and with TX being soooooo big, it must have been a lot of work to make. > > > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/map/txmap.htm > > > > > >^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ > >Becky > >north Idaho > >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > >"Just as eating against one's will is injurious to health, so study without a liking for it spoils the memory, and it retains nothing it takes in." > >Leonardo Da Vinci > > > >My personal genealogy site > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ouryorks > >The URL of YORK: > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allyorks > >Jefferson County, OK CC & listmom > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okjeffer/ > >Brown County, TX CC & listmom > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbrown/ > >~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > > > > >==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > >Accidentally unsubscribed from the OKGenWeb list? Simply resubscribe. A > >full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be unsubscribed. > >mailto:[email protected] > > > >. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > OKGenWeb - The Place To Start Your Oklahoma Search > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/index.htm >

It should be noted that Greer County is now part of Oklahoma -- this is a map that shows Greer County when it was considered part of Texas. Today, that area includes the present day counties of Beckham, Greer, Harmon, and Jackson in Oklahoma, as well as parts of adjoining present day counties in Texas. Peggy Rebecca York wrote: >This map was recently made by Chuck Bluhm for TX. It's a great clickable map - and with TX being soooooo big, it must have been a lot of work to make. > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/map/txmap.htm > > >^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ >Becky >north Idaho >*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* >"Just as eating against one's will is injurious to health, so study without a liking for it spoils the memory, and it retains nothing it takes in." >Leonardo Da Vinci > >My personal genealogy site >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ouryorks >The URL of YORK: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allyorks >Jefferson County, OK CC & listmom >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okjeffer/ >Brown County, TX CC & listmom >http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbrown/ >~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ > > >==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== >Accidentally unsubscribed from the OKGenWeb list? Simply resubscribe. A >full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be unsubscribed. >mailto:[email protected] > >. > > >

In a message dated 2/2/2003 10:18:54 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I subscribe to > ancestory.com and genealogy.com and I wouldn't give > either one up. > I agree. I had searched for where one line moved to for over 5 years without success. I finally found them in the 1930 census on Ancestry, in an area that I would never have thought to look in. Although there are things I don't like about these services, the good outweighs the bad, at least for me. I rarely use anything except the census records. Connie B

This map was recently made by Chuck Bluhm for TX. It's a great clickable map - and with TX being soooooo big, it must have been a lot of work to make. http://www.rootsweb.com/~txgenweb/map/txmap.htm ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ Becky north Idaho *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* "Just as eating against one's will is injurious to health, so study without a liking for it spoils the memory, and it retains nothing it takes in." Leonardo Da Vinci My personal genealogy site http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ouryorks The URL of YORK: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~allyorks Jefferson County, OK CC & listmom http://www.rootsweb.com/~okjeffer/ Brown County, TX CC & listmom http://www.rootsweb.com/~txbrown/ ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

I don't use much of the family submitted info, you never know how good the info is so that is useless to me. What I use is all their online census. Since I babysit my 2 yr old grandson I can't get to OHS and I am just thankful someone put the census online so I can still do some research at home. I subscribe to ancestory.com and genealogy.com and I wouldn't give either one up. Sharon C. --- Jack Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > I dislike them so much that I bounce all their > e-mail, and mark all their > catalogs "Return to sender" they are a bunch of > money hungry******** who > have taken what others have worked hard for and sell > it. > furthermore they should be investigated for being a > Monopoly since they have > gobbled up Family tree maker, and rootsweb along > with just about anything > else that pertains to genealogy. > IMHO Jack > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon C" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:32 AM > Subject: Re: [OKGEN ] 1900 Census > > > > Alli, I have ancestory.com and genealogy.com and > > couldn't live without either one. I watch my > grandson > > and not able to go to OHS anymore to search census > > records. > > Let me know who you want to find and I will look > for > > you. > > Sharon C > > > > --- Alli <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Does the Genweb or whichever have searchable > records > > > of the 1900 Census for the Indian Territory? > > > > > > I really really dislike Ancestry.....they make > you > > > jump thru hoops for this record & then want you > to > > > sign up so you can have access........BULL! > > > Grrrr > > > (ok I feel a little better) > > > Alli :) > > > Researching: A-B-R-A-M, M-c-C-A-L-L, M-c-K-A-Y, > > > J-O-H-N-S-O-N, P-H-A-R-I-S-S > > > A-D-A-M-S, > T-H-O-M-P-S-O-N, > > > L-O-V-E-L-L, W-H-I-T-E > > > > > > Indep. Educational Children's Book Consultant > > > www.ubah.com/D1525 > > > NEW Indep. Pampered Chef Consultant > > > www.pamperedchef.com > > > Indep. AdvoCare Distributor (Herbal) > > > www.advocare.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > > > Oklahoma Vital Records Information - > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/vital/vital.html > > > Oklahoma Census Records - > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/census.htm > > > > > > > > > ===== > > Sharon Burnett-Crawford, Guthrie, OK > > OKbits: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okbits/ > > Pontotoc Co.OK: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpontot/pontotoc.htm > > Comanche Co.OK: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcomanc/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > > OKGenWeb - The Place To Start Your Oklahoma Search > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/index.htm > > > > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Accidentally unsubscribed from the OKGenWeb list? > Simply resubscribe. A > full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you > to be unsubscribed. > mailto:[email protected] > ===== Sharon Burnett-Crawford, Guthrie, OK OKbits: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okbits/ Pontotoc Co.OK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpontot/pontotoc.htm Comanche Co.OK: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcomanc/ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Oh I never said he was wrong..........never hinted & never would. Refering to an old owner or whatever as "their" place makes a lot of sense for Reference.....as I said...I had a great Uncle or great grandparents that raised Turkey's up in Kansas (somewhere near the Ok/Ks border) & when you asked directions to their place, if you mentioned they had a Turkey Farm....Who ever you'd ask would OH your looking for the Turkey Farm Road & proceed to give you directions. When I asked if anyone heard of Nap's place, it didn't dawn on me that it would be a reference to an old Homestead. Grandma was usually a little more specific when talking about a place, but in her story she told it how she remembered it/what she remembered it by. BTW: You'll LOVE Okla.......I've only been to Chelsea, Tulsa, Nowata, Stillwater, Vinita, Claremore & one or 2 other towns in that area. As that is where my dad's family (both sides) lived & I loved it. Always swore that I'd move to Chelsea as that's where my dad was raised & grandma lived (until she died..but she died in Nowata with her daughter). Its changed a great deal since I was back there in '83.......but it will always be home to me. Alli :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca York" <[email protected]> > Gene's right. I've never been to OK ( would love to go) > but...I've seen it many times where a place or an old homestead is known by > a name from the past. > Becky

I'm also proud to be an okie & was raised in the Spud state........my dad talked about locations he lived in (which were only a couple) & locations in which his other relatives lived as did his mom. But if they referred to a Homestead or a farm...it was in connection with the current occupant/family member. I've learned a lot (from Gene & others) about the history of a location, such as Nap's Place) & it'll help me in my search for where my grandparents or at least Grandma was. I wish I had these kind of clue's in regard's to my grandpa. He basically disowned his own kids (only wanted them around for farm & dairy work), and the only "stories" I've been told are only about his character (which is a wonder he lived so long)& not about his childhood or residence. Alli :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "evelyn sell" <[email protected]> > I am a Okie and proud of it, but was raised in > the Sunshine State.

I wasn't attacking anyone Shelia.........I simply stated that to say someone isn't an Okie or is a city girl because they weren't raised the same is some, is an assumption that shouldn't be made. Alli :) Your attack back was just as unnecessary as others references

>He grew up in the late 40's on (born '43) and they >didn't mention places like this & yes they lived in the country & yes his >mom & grandma were raised on farm's owned, rented or sharecropped. >Some people talked & still talk like that........some don't. It's called, for lack of a better terminology, (conservative attitudes and understanding communications). Your attack back was just as unnecessary as others references ... including my own comments at this moment. "Talk is cheap and some people don't have cheap talk to even talk about." SCB Meandering in Minnesota Meadows ... and, they don't call them Meadows up here in Minnesota any more than they do in Oklahoma but the reference is very understandable for all reading this notation. Pastures, Fields, Prairies, Glens ... their all the same if spoken and placed correctly.