Shelia This is from the California Death Index. I this this is what you are looking for. Try Lucretia Burwell Social Security # 547-50-5195 born in Ill 1895 died in California 1969 Mother's maiden name HOLDREN. She was 74 years old at her death. http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelia Bachelder" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:17 AM Subject: [OKGEN ] CA Death Info: > Dear Members: > > There were so many of you folks that responded to my plea, I'm speechless, that's an amazing feat to of accomplished with this southern born girl!! I Love this group! > > Lucretia Mary / Mary Lucretia SMITH [*TRIMBLE] HAYDEN (possibly) RICHARDS was born in Princeton, Bureau County, Illinois in May 1892 ... her mother's maiden name was HOLDREN - often misspelled HOLDEN. Her step-father was Thomas C. TRIMBLE and her father's name was Ralph SMITH. > > She is my Great Aunt Lucretia, sister to my Grandfather. She married Ralph HAYDEN sometime after 1910 and before 1916 but where, I have no idea. She had 2 sons with Ralph HAYDEN by the names of Kenneth and Robert and I believe they were both born before 1925 ... but ... that too is something I'm not sure over the information other than their names. > > Lucretia as I knew her either divorced Ralph after the boys were born or he died. I'm not sure, either direction ... divorce or death, he's out of the picture. In comes another man who marries my Great Aunt. He's her junior by ahhhh ... from memory, more than 20 years or so if correctly remembered! The family talk is that Aunt Lucretia was loaded with money and her 2nd husband was a gold digger ... if you can call a guy a gold digger!? His first name ... I wish I could remember but his last name was like a given name [RICHARDS] [RICHARD] or whatever other spelling deviations there can be for that name! > > On a date of death, I can share that she was alive in 1965 but had past away before or just after the moon walk of 1969! September 1970 rings a bell and in reflection over the details I remember that she had placed money in some form as savings with an organization that at that time ... they were taking reservations for people, or reserving seats for them to ride a space ship to the moon [someday]. I didn't say she was mentally all there ... just eccentric as most rich people seem to be!! There's my missing California Aunt. > > Anyone, if you can help me and point me into the right direction ... I'd be thrilled with any assistance! > > I've tried Rootsweb and get an unsuccessful or no matching criteria found message. I went to the Vital statistics that was given and found over 320 some RICHARDS but the maiden name of mother and the father's surname did not come up ... however, one came up with the mother being a TRIMBLE but the father's name was missing ... I considered that one for a second but had no clue how or when she had changed her gender to male and her given name to Guy ... there it is. My brick!! > > Shelia Bachelder [email protected] > > Meandering in Minnesota > PS, the individual who sent the Minneapolis addy for statistics or something like that, could you give that information again and explain how to use it! I was rather surprised to see it out of the Minnesota area. Thank you for at least another avenue in searching! > > > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Online sources for locating a Town or County > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/locatetown.htm >

Dear Members: There were so many of you folks that responded to my plea, I'm speechless, that's an amazing feat to of accomplished with this southern born girl!! I Love this group! Lucretia Mary / Mary Lucretia SMITH [*TRIMBLE] HAYDEN (possibly) RICHARDS was born in Princeton, Bureau County, Illinois in May 1892 ... her mother's maiden name was HOLDREN - often misspelled HOLDEN. Her step-father was Thomas C. TRIMBLE and her father's name was Ralph SMITH. She is my Great Aunt Lucretia, sister to my Grandfather. She married Ralph HAYDEN sometime after 1910 and before 1916 but where, I have no idea. She had 2 sons with Ralph HAYDEN by the names of Kenneth and Robert and I believe they were both born before 1925 ... but ... that too is something I'm not sure over the information other than their names. Lucretia as I knew her either divorced Ralph after the boys were born or he died. I'm not sure, either direction ... divorce or death, he's out of the picture. In comes another man who marries my Great Aunt. He's her junior by ahhhh ... from memory, more than 20 years or so if correctly remembered! The family talk is that Aunt Lucretia was loaded with money and her 2nd husband was a gold digger ... if you can call a guy a gold digger!? His first name ... I wish I could remember but his last name was like a given name [RICHARDS] [RICHARD] or whatever other spelling deviations there can be for that name! On a date of death, I can share that she was alive in 1965 but had past away before or just after the moon walk of 1969! September 1970 rings a bell and in reflection over the details I remember that she had placed money in some form as savings with an organization that at that time ... they were taking reservations for people, or reserving seats for them to ride a space ship to the moon [someday]. I didn't say she was mentally all there ... just eccentric as most rich people seem to be!! There's my missing California Aunt. Anyone, if you can help me and point me into the right direction ... I'd be thrilled with any assistance! I've tried Rootsweb and get an unsuccessful or no matching criteria found message. I went to the Vital statistics that was given and found over 320 some RICHARDS but the maiden name of mother and the father's surname did not come up ... however, one came up with the mother being a TRIMBLE but the father's name was missing ... I considered that one for a second but had no clue how or when she had changed her gender to male and her given name to Guy ... there it is. My brick!! Shelia Bachelder [email protected] Meandering in Minnesota PS, the individual who sent the Minneapolis addy for statistics or something like that, could you give that information again and explain how to use it! I was rather surprised to see it out of the Minnesota area. Thank you for at least another avenue in searching!

What Surnames....ie, family information do you have and do you need? I'm sure alot of us might help in your search if we had that information. Pam Stillwater, OK

Here is a California Death Index from 1940 to 1997 that you should be able to use. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi Ronnie New York ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Brewer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [OKGEN ] Help me-California info: > They do have a death index in Ca. > Shirley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shelia Bachelder" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 1:06 PM > Subject: [OKGEN ] Help me-California info: > > > > Dear Group: > > I'm one of the unfortunate individuals who do not have access to > Ancestry.com due to my not having the funds to register ... I have found > what I believe to be the married name of my Great Aunt who died in > California 1970 but can not get into the database for searching. Ancestry > is very dedicated to it's privacy issues and due to not being a member, I'm > locked out. Did someone with access to Ancestry.com once upon a time say > they would do look ups for those of us who asked? Maybe I was dreaming that > and only wished it into reality? If there is someone, could you message me > privately and I'll give you the information as to who I am looking for? > Thank you, I'd surely appreciate it and will do anything in my power to help > them or those of you connected with this request. Unless there is a death > index from California that someone has an address to that I can access, I > don't know of any other way of researching this particular family members > data for recording. I hope s! > > omeone can help me! > > > > Thank you, > > > > Shelia Bachelder > > Meandering in Minnesota Meadows > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > > Online sources for locating a Town or County > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/locatetown.htm > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > OKGenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/index.htm > PhotoGallery - http://marti.rootsweb.com/photogallery/index.htm > Have you visited OKBits? http://www.rootsweb.com/~okbits/ >

http://www.ancestry.com/save/charts/census.htm Does anyone have a template for transcribint the 1900, 1910 or 1930 censuses? Thanks, Leona

I may have come in late on this e-mail, what surnames are you searching I notice your last name is Wolf? thanks cousin krista

Be sure and use her married name. Shelia Bachelder wrote: > I tried the Rootsweb site with the death index ... I plugged in the information and get nothing back just a line stating that ' nothing found matching criteria ' ... sigh, I was afraid of that. However, I do know she died in California ... any suggestions?! > > Shelia -- Peggy <'}}}}>< Genealogy: Begins as an interest, Becomes a hobby, Continues as an avocation, takes over as an obsession and in its last stage is an incurable disease." Lueck http://www.geocities.com/lueck_lick/ Honnoll http://www.geocities.com/honnoll_honnell/index.html Winton http://www.geocities.com/mawpeggy1946/index.html

I tried the Rootsweb site with the death index ... I plugged in the information and get nothing back just a line stating that ' nothing found matching criteria ' ... sigh, I was afraid of that. However, I do know she died in California ... any suggestions?! Shelia [email protected]

URL for California birth, death, and marriage index. Some are fee based but a lot are free. http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelia Bachelder" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:06 PM Subject: [OKGEN ] Help me-California info: > Dear Group: > I'm one of the unfortunate individuals who do not have access to Ancestry.com due to my not having the funds to register ... I have found what I believe to be the married name of my Great Aunt who died in California 1970 but can not get into the database for searching. Ancestry is very dedicated to it's privacy issues and due to not being a member, I'm locked out. Did someone with access to Ancestry.com once upon a time say they would do look ups for those of us who asked? Maybe I was dreaming that and only wished it into reality? If there is someone, could you message me privately and I'll give you the information as to who I am looking for? Thank you, I'd surely appreciate it and will do anything in my power to help them or those of you connected with this request. Unless there is a death index from California that someone has an address to that I can access, I don't know of any other way of researching this particular family members data for recording. I hope s! > omeone can help me! > > Thank you, > > Shelia Bachelder > Meandering in Minnesota Meadows > [email protected] > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Online sources for locating a Town or County > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/locatetown.htm >

Sheila, Here is a link to the free Rootsweb site for the CA death records. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi enjoy, VA

Dear Group: I'm one of the unfortunate individuals who do not have access to Ancestry.com due to my not having the funds to register ... I have found what I believe to be the married name of my Great Aunt who died in California 1970 but can not get into the database for searching. Ancestry is very dedicated to it's privacy issues and due to not being a member, I'm locked out. Did someone with access to Ancestry.com once upon a time say they would do look ups for those of us who asked? Maybe I was dreaming that and only wished it into reality? If there is someone, could you message me privately and I'll give you the information as to who I am looking for? Thank you, I'd surely appreciate it and will do anything in my power to help them or those of you connected with this request. Unless there is a death index from California that someone has an address to that I can access, I don't know of any other way of researching this particular family members data for recording. I hope s! omeone can help me! Thank you, Shelia Bachelder Meandering in Minnesota Meadows [email protected]

I found a Donald D. Butler in the 1930 Kansas Census for Allen County - Iola Twp. District 12. Could this be his family? Butler Frank L. Head 56 Anna J. Wife 45? Forest L Son 22 May J. Daughter 20 Alam (sp)? F. Son 18 Phyllis C. Daughter 16 Phillip C. Son 13 Doris J. Daughter 11 Robert E. Son 8 Betty L. Daughter 3 Donald D. Son 1 1/2 I'm sending you the census pixs in seperate e-mails. Good Luck, Pam

This is the notice posted on the Stanislaus County web site at www.criis.com/ NOTICE: The passage of SB1614 by the California Legislature, signed by Governor Davis on September 20, 2002, provides that ALL Birth and Death Indexes for the County must be removed from the Internet by January 1, 2003. The State of California hopes the enactment of Senate Bill 1614 will protect the public from identity theft/fraud. Additionally, we have removed Marriage Record Indexes from our web page. We apologize for any inconvenience. -----Original Message----- From: Virginia L. Aldridge [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 1:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OKGEN ] Help me-California info: Sheila, Here is a link to the free Rootsweb site for the CA death records. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi enjoy, VA ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== OKGenWeb - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/index.htm PhotoGallery - http://marti.rootsweb.com/photogallery/index.htm Have you visited OKBits? http://www.rootsweb.com/~okbits/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.455 / Virus Database: 255 - Release Date: 2/13/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.455 / Virus Database: 255 - Release Date: 2/13/2003

Do you know what town/city in California? Even if you don't, I suggest joining [email protected] or [email protected] Folks there are very helpful. shirley Shelia Bachelder wrote: > I tried the Rootsweb site with the death index ... I plugged in the information and get nothing back just a line stating that ' nothing found matching criteria ' ... sigh, I was afraid of that. However, I do know she died in California ... any suggestions?! > > Shelia > [email protected]

Do you mean does anyone have a electronic image of the census forms?? If so, I've got them in *.pdf format. If that's what you mean, LMK and I'll email them to you. :-) acp ----------- [email protected] wrote: > Does anyone have a template for transcribint the 1900, 1910 or 1930 censuses? > Thanks, Leona > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Oklahoma Vital Records Information - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/vital/vital.html > Oklahoma Census Records - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/census.htm > > > -- :-) acp ******************************************************************** * A. Collene Pearce * [email protected] * www.jump.net/~collene * ********************************************************************

They do have a death index in Ca. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelia Bachelder" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 1:06 PM Subject: [OKGEN ] Help me-California info: > Dear Group: > I'm one of the unfortunate individuals who do not have access to Ancestry.com due to my not having the funds to register ... I have found what I believe to be the married name of my Great Aunt who died in California 1970 but can not get into the database for searching. Ancestry is very dedicated to it's privacy issues and due to not being a member, I'm locked out. Did someone with access to Ancestry.com once upon a time say they would do look ups for those of us who asked? Maybe I was dreaming that and only wished it into reality? If there is someone, could you message me privately and I'll give you the information as to who I am looking for? Thank you, I'd surely appreciate it and will do anything in my power to help them or those of you connected with this request. Unless there is a death index from California that someone has an address to that I can access, I don't know of any other way of researching this particular family members data for recording. I hope s! > omeone can help me! > > Thank you, > > Shelia Bachelder > Meandering in Minnesota Meadows > [email protected] > > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Online sources for locating a Town or County > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/locatetown.htm

thank you very much Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [OKGEN ] Donald Douglas Butler > I found a Donald D. Butler in the 1930 Kansas Census for Allen County - Iola > Twp. District 12. Could this be his family? > > > Butler Frank L. Head 56 > Anna J. Wife 45? > Forest L Son 22 > May J. Daughter 20 > Alam (sp)? F. Son 18 > Phyllis C. Daughter 16 > Phillip C. Son 13 > Doris J. Daughter 11 > Robert E. Son 8 > Betty L. Daughter 3 > Donald D. Son 1 1/2 > > I'm sending you the census pixs in seperate e-mails. Good Luck, > Pam > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Accidentally unsubscribed from the OKGenWeb list? Simply resubscribe. A > full mailbox, computer error, or spam may cause you to be unsubscribed. > mailto:[email protected]

I an looking for his family / I think his father was Harold Butler . I have been unable to find him in the census . Need a little help. I think that Donald Douglas Butler was married in Norman around 1960's How can I check this out Shirley

Does anyone have a template for transcribint the 1900, 1910 or 1930 censuses? Thanks, Leona

You can use the one I created for the Murray County census transcriptions: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmurray/Resources/FORM.htm The form was created with Front Page 2000. Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 8:38 AM Subject: [OKGEN ] Census > Does anyone have a template for transcribint the 1900, 1910 or 1930 censuses? > Thanks, Leona > > > ==== OKGEN Mailing List ==== > Oklahoma Vital Records Information - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/vital/vital.html > Oklahoma Census Records - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/census.htm >