Hello Looking for infor on T.C. Haddox. Thomas Carey, married to Edna faust Pope. I believe Faust is her maiden name. They originally came from ARK. Do they sound for familiar. They lived in Ednid for at least 10 years, in 1900. Sincerely Sherry Davis-Ellis

I will look in my records and see what I can find of a Bert Kelly. Others probably will too Rosalind in Vegas

Hello, My dad was Bert Frank. He was born in Sheridan, Ok on the Frank Farm in 1899. I have a picture of him as a young man. In the picture with him is his friend, Bert Kelly. Would this be any of you family? Marian Frank Alvis Boise, Id. marian@cyberhighway.net -----Original Message----- From: Msarahroz@aol.com <Msarahroz@aol.com> To: OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com <OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [OKGARFIE-L] Oklahoma genealogy >In a message dated 99-10-05 13:13:11 EDT, you write: > ><< > Enid Cemetery and Memorial Park Cemetery are two different cemeteries. >> > Thank you Lois for answering my question. I have only been to Enid as an >adult, twice. I was at the Enid Cem. on one of my visits but that was 20 >years ago. > >As a child we were at Enid and Pond Creek often, since that is where our >KELLY CLAN was located. > >Rosalind Kelly > > >==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== >Visit the Garfield County USGenWeb Home Page! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarfie/gar.htm > >

I didn't want anyone from out of the area to be confused. The Old Enid Cemetery established in 1897 is at the corner of Grand and Willow. Memorial Park established in about 1920 is North of Town. Maybe 3-5 miles. I will email Katie privately and try to help. Lois

Does anyone have access to the records of Enid Cemetery. My great-grandmother is buried there. I have no idea who her husband was and I am having a very difficult time finding out anything more than his last name. Her name was Mary A. b.February 16, 1846 - maiden name Walton Williams d.December 8, 1921 and buried December 10, 1921. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance, Helen Richardson herx2@gateway.net

In a message dated 99-10-05 13:13:11 EDT, you write: << Enid Cemetery and Memorial Park Cemetery are two different cemeteries. >> Thank you Lois for answering my question. I have only been to Enid as an adult, twice. I was at the Enid Cem. on one of my visits but that was 20 years ago. As a child we were at Enid and Pond Creek often, since that is where our KELLY CLAN was located. Rosalind Kelly

I was just in Enid last week and found that Memorial Park is within the Enid Cemetery. There are many sections to the cemetery: Old Cemetery, 1st addition, 2nd addition and I believe another addition, then there is the Memorial Park addition with divisions - A, B, C. and D. If you go to the Cemetery Office and look at the map do not try to find the grave site by the name of the streets as indicated there. They are named one thing there and are different on the posts in the cemetery. The lady in the office was just filling in for some one off on medical leave and had only been in Enid for a few months. She was very helpful but didn't know much about the layout. She had a card file on all the gravesites and a book listed by death date. We would (we thought) draw out the area we wanted and go look for the graves. We make six or seven trips back to the office to verify what we had drawn. We still did not find the four graves of the Edds/Eades/Eads family. We did find two others in the Memorial Park area by walking the whole area. I would love to be closer to do something about making it easier for people to find their families. But, I live in Houston and don't get to OK very often. I wish I did. Maybe, the Genealogical Society could put this on their schedule of Projects and help us poor dumb out of towners. We were there a year ago on a Sunday and no one was around to help find any graves, we came home empty handed. Thankfully, this time, we found the Mangum family and the two Edds/Eades/Eads. We are very happy about this. Sorry to ramble so, but thought the answer that they were two different cemetery was miss leading. If there is another Memorial Park, please give the address if it is located other than the one for the Enid Cemetery. Thanks, Kate lois burdick wrote: > Enid Cemetery and Memorial Park Cemetery are two different cemeteries. > Memorial Park was started in the 1920s and Enid Cemetery , was established > 1897. Lois > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Msarahroz@aol.com> > To: <OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 1:18 AM > Subject: Re: [OKGARFIE-L] Oklahoma genealogy > > > Thank you very much for your reply. > > > > I discovered that the names you sent me are some of the children of Daniel > > and Susan.? > > > > Are the Enid Cem. and the Memorial Park Cem. the same place? > > > > Rosalind > > > > > > ==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Garfield County USGenWeb Home Page! > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarfie/gar.htm > > > > > > ==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Yvonne James-Henderson,list administrator mailto:hen1@idt.net > with questions concerning this list!

Enid Cemetery and Memorial Park Cemetery are two different cemeteries. Memorial Park was started in the 1920s and Enid Cemetery , was established 1897. Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: <Msarahroz@aol.com> To: <OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [OKGARFIE-L] Oklahoma genealogy > Thank you very much for your reply. > > I discovered that the names you sent me are some of the children of Daniel > and Susan.? > > Are the Enid Cem. and the Memorial Park Cem. the same place? > > Rosalind > > > ==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Garfield County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarfie/gar.htm > >

Thank you very much for your reply. I discovered that the names you sent me are some of the children of Daniel and Susan.? Are the Enid Cem. and the Memorial Park Cem. the same place? Rosalind

Thank you for looking it up, but now that I wrote the info below, I've been corrected by family members... 1) Grandmother's family name thru her father was Elvire Florence Orendorf descended from some Scotch-Irish Jacksons 2) Grandfather's name was.........Ray Ketron 3) They were married a few years, and Ray had a few children from a previous marraige. 4) They lived in or near Enid for some years. 5) I do not have indication about the children of Ray Ketron, their ages, did they go to school in Enid,...? 6) Grandmother married William Thomas in Enid before they moved to Kansas City, where he worked for some years in a meat plant... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. ----- Original Message ----- From: sxelxalt <sxelxalt@televar.com> To: <OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [OKGARFIE-L] , birth, marraige, death... > I am knew at this computer, chuckle and relax... > My father's mother was, as I understand, 41 years old, had already raised > her children, cooked for a wheat (?) crew near Enid, Oklahoma, on June > 22,1919 when my father was born. The story says she was working when she > birthed him. I believe her name was Flora (Orendorf or Jackson). Her husband > had died (?) Did he die near Enid? Is that why Grandmother still lived > there?. Her family name was Jackson, so the dead husband's name must have > been (!?) Orendorf...or...(hahaha).(please excuse me!). > My father's blood father was William Thomas Ketron. We have a picture of > him. I do not know whether he knew that Dad's Mother was pregnant, or not, > when he took off. Whether he knew that he had a son, or not, we do not know. > Story is that he was half Chgerokee related to the Stand Watie group that > had fought with the Confederacy for promise of Cherokee land titles. > Sometime within a year of Dad's birth, another man entered grandma's > life. His name was William Thomas and he came out of some Mormon group but > was not "practising". At some point in the next years, they moved up into > Ozarks and Missuorri area. This is who Dad grew up thinking of as "Father". > He even joined the army for WWII as "Thomas", although at the end of the > Korean War it surfaced that his bith certificate said > "Ketron".............so, I assume the birth certificate was registered > before Wm. Thomas came on the scene, and was registered in Enid as place of > birth. > How do I go forward to find more? > Perhaps the birth registration has more on Grandmother and lineage > Grandfather. > I'd be curious to track down unknown relatives. What is the nature of > this thing that my Dad and I share that might be shared by others? > I'd like to know where I came from! > > Death Records for previous to October, 1918, (nine months before my Dad > was born), for a (?) Orendorf (I"ve never seen this one spelled). > Birth Records... Flora Orendorf or Jackson and William Thomas Ketron > parent Robert Theodore Ketron, (who some 34 years later, was moved by the > army to legally change the last name, became Robert T. Thomas Sr., my Dad. I > was already born in an army hospital with a birth certificate that said > "Thomas"!!!). > Marraige Records.... for Flora Orendorf/Jackson with a William Thomas in > 1919, 20, 21, 22, (?). This is unsure. Dad, born 6/22/1919, remembers the > horse wagon and truck trip from Oklahoma to Missourri or the Ozarks, (or did > he hear the story so many times that he"remembers"?). > Where's Grandma Flora from? A vague story about knowing Billy the kid > when she was young... or was it when he was young?!!! (HA) > > > Thanks for any response, and I wish you all well! > > > ==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >

Does anyone on this list live near or in Wewoka. I very much need someone to look up a deed at the county clerks office. If anyone has any ideas let me know. Myrna

I'm not sure about school census, I will ask around. I bet there is someone on the list that knows??? Oklahoma has a state archive in OKC. Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: john and marilynn oneall <meoall@email.msn.com> To: <OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 7:04 PM Subject: [OKGARFIE-L] Oklahoma genealogy > Lois--I would like to tell you thanks for the info about the Priem and Stolk > (Stalk) marriage. I appreciate it. > > Also, I would like to extend my approval of the Oklahoma Genealogy Society's > web page. I just looked at it. The Society has done a superb job with > accumulating and exhibiting all of that information! GOOD JOB! > > I am wondering now if there is any resource in Oklahoma which has school > records. Sort of a school census, I think. I found that kind of info for > Nebraska--my grand-parents were in Cass Co., Nebraska, before they moved to > Garfield Co., Oklahoma. The info was found at the Nebraska State Archives. > It listed child's name, parents' names, age of child, number in family, etc. > > Does Oklahoma have a State Archives? Might they have something like that? > > Marilynn O. > meoall@msn.com > > > > > > ==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== > List problems? First, read the Welcome Message that you received > when you subscribed to this list. Feel free to contact > Yvonne James-Henderson,list administrator mailto:hen1@idt.net > with questions concerning this list! >

In a message dated 99-10-02 20:06:57 EDT, you write: << I am wondering now if there is any resource in Oklahoma which has school records. Sort of a school census, I think. I found that kind of info for Nebraska--my grand-parents were in Cass Co., Nebraska, before they moved to Garfield Co., Oklahoma. The info was found at the Nebraska State Archives. It listed child's name, parents' names, age of child, number in family, etc. Does Oklahoma have a State Archives? Might they have something like that? Marilynn O. meoall@msn.com I would be interested in something like this too, Lois Rosalind Kelly >>

Hi Lois do you do obit lookups too? Rosalind Kelly

Lois--I would like to tell you thanks for the info about the Priem and Stolk (Stalk) marriage. I appreciate it. Also, I would like to extend my approval of the Oklahoma Genealogy Society's web page. I just looked at it. The Society has done a superb job with accumulating and exhibiting all of that information! GOOD JOB! I am wondering now if there is any resource in Oklahoma which has school records. Sort of a school census, I think. I found that kind of info for Nebraska--my grand-parents were in Cass Co., Nebraska, before they moved to Garfield Co., Oklahoma. The info was found at the Nebraska State Archives. It listed child's name, parents' names, age of child, number in family, etc. Does Oklahoma have a State Archives? Might they have something like that? Marilynn O. meoall@msn.com

The marriage date for Henry J. Priem,24 and Emma Stalk, 19 was Jan. 29, 1910 He was from Enid and she was from Waukomis. Witness: Emma Priem and Eckhardt Kinhot? Lois

Is there a list of marriage records available online? Or does somebody have a hard copy which they will check for me? (Somebody sent an E-Mail to "Lois" asking that Lois check in the year of 1893.) If somebody is available to do this, I would appreciate having a look-up done for me. I did try to find the record through the LDS Church, but it was not available -- they had not yet microfilmed it, I believe. The record I am looking for: a marriage record for HENRY PRIEM (pronounced "Preem" so it might be listed like that in the written record) and EMMA STOLK (I believe that her middle name is Henrietta). Year of the marriage would have been between 1906 and 1910. The Stolk and Priem families were both living in Garfield County, so I am assuming that that is where they married. My thanks for any information about this. Should I write somewhere else? Should I write to someone else? Marilynn O. meoall@msn.com EMMA STOLK.

I forgot to click on my own email address and don't know if the address I used will go through. If this is a duplicate , please forgive. Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: paul burdick <pburdick@enid.com> To: <OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:53 PM Subject: lookups > I found a William Ketron buried in the Enid Cemetery, couldn't be your > William Ketron as he was born in 1899 and died May 15, 1969 > > Only Ketron I found in any of my records. > > No Orendorf buried in Garfield Co, > > Found 6 Oringderff buried in the Enid Cemetery. None before 1943. > > William Henry and Orus O. Oringderff were listed in the 1917 taxpayers. > Hope this helps a little. > > I found Conners and Beckners in the marriage records but not a William or > Cynthia. A few Beckners are listed in the Del Norte Cemetery near Drummond, > OK. > > > > Garfield Co. genealogist Inc. have a web page at : > > http://www.harvestcomm.net/org/garfield_genealogy/ > > > Listed are ; marriage records from 1893-1909 > > Death records are in OKC as are birth records. > > We have probate records, divorce, tax records and obituarys. > > I have the Enid Cemetery Books, Garfield Co. Cemetery Books, a few city > directories, and some tax records. I will be glad to look up any records I > have here at home. > > Our society does charge for Obituaries, Marriage records and research. > Please take a look at our page. > > We have the Enid Cemetery Books for sale at $40 for two vol. There are 432 > pages. We have the Garfield Co. Books also. Have a great day. Lois >

I am knew at this computer, chuckle and relax... My father's mother was, as I understand, 41 years old, had already raised her children, cooked for a wheat (?) crew near Enid, Oklahoma, on June 22,1919 when my father was born. The story says she was working when she birthed him. I believe her name was Flora (Orendorf or Jackson). Her husband had died (?) Did he die near Enid? Is that why Grandmother still lived there?. Her family name was Jackson, so the dead husband's name must have been (!?) Orendorf...or...(hahaha).(please excuse me!). My father's blood father was William Thomas Ketron. We have a picture of him. I do not know whether he knew that Dad's Mother was pregnant, or not, when he took off. Whether he knew that he had a son, or not, we do not know. Story is that he was half Chgerokee related to the Stand Watie group that had fought with the Confederacy for promise of Cherokee land titles. Sometime within a year of Dad's birth, another man entered grandma's life. His name was William Thomas and he came out of some Mormon group but was not "practising". At some point in the next years, they moved up into Ozarks and Missuorri area. This is who Dad grew up thinking of as "Father". He even joined the army for WWII as "Thomas", although at the end of the Korean War it surfaced that his bith certificate said "Ketron".............so, I assume the birth certificate was registered before Wm. Thomas came on the scene, and was registered in Enid as place of birth. How do I go forward to find more? Perhaps the birth registration has more on Grandmother and lineage Grandfather. I'd be curious to track down unknown relatives. What is the nature of this thing that my Dad and I share that might be shared by others? I'd like to know where I came from! Death Records for previous to October, 1918, (nine months before my Dad was born), for a (?) Orendorf (I"ve never seen this one spelled). Birth Records... Flora Orendorf or Jackson and William Thomas Ketron parent Robert Theodore Ketron, (who some 34 years later, was moved by the army to legally change the last name, became Robert T. Thomas Sr., my Dad. I was already born in an army hospital with a birth certificate that said "Thomas"!!!). Marraige Records.... for Flora Orendorf/Jackson with a William Thomas in 1919, 20, 21, 22, (?). This is unsure. Dad, born 6/22/1919, remembers the horse wagon and truck trip from Oklahoma to Missourri or the Ozarks, (or did he hear the story so many times that he"remembers"?). Where's Grandma Flora from? A vague story about knowing Billy the kid when she was young... or was it when he was young?!!! (HA) Thanks for any response, and I wish you all well!

Lois: If you have Garfield County marriage records for 1893, will you please look for a Cynthia Conner and William Beckner -- I don't know the exact day. Thank you, Carole S.