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I am looking for information on the Samuel Bennett family who resided on a farm in southeastern Garfield Co. during the period 1901 through the 1950/60's. Reply to fbennett@aol.com

Does anyone have access to last month Nov "99" newspaper obits, Garfield Co. If so please contact me privately I need an obit from the newspaper Thanks Glenda

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2DC7D62F01246D4DE10DA5E7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My grandfather was born in Garfield Co, the town of Covngton, on Aug 21, 1892. His name was William Charles Barnard, callied Charlie most of the time. He married in 1911 probably around the same area to Mary LaVici Lunsford. Is there any chance of getting a birth record of some sort for him. Where would I look. Any help will be most appreciated. Myrna Barnard Ceccrelli --------------2DC7D62F01246D4DE10DA5E7 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Ceccarelli, Myrna J. Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Myrna J. Ceccarelli n: Ceccarelli;Myrna J. email;internet: jojo1018@concentric.net x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------2DC7D62F01246D4DE10DA5E7--

There sure has been some interesting reading on this list recently! I'm sure the lady that wrote the blanket statement about Oklahoma being dry and barren was simply doing that, making a quick statement while writing her query, but not intending to offend any Proud Oklahomans. I'm sure most of us are proud of the state in which we live, and there are good and bad people in every state. I too always thought of Oklahoma as being hot and dry, and being rather brown. However through the years we have made several trips to Oklahoma counties of Grant, Garfield, Kay, and Noble counties. I quickly discovered the beauty of the state. Oklahoma has a diversity in its topography, people and cultures. Lets celebrate our diversity as people researching our ancestors and the land in which they called HOME. I call southeastern MO my home. Unfortunately our Native Americans lost a great deal at the hands of the white man... ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.

Rosalind in Vegas--- Regarding your message about Oklahoma. The writer was talking to me. I am a native Okie and proud of it too. BUT, I have been all over the world and know for a fact that there are good and bad places everywhere. Oklahoma has some both very good and very bad places. I lived through the depression and the dust bowl. I know first hand, how bad it can be......but I also know the many beautiful places here and some of the most beautiful sunsets we mortals could ever see. Also, you won't find any better, more loving and decent people than here in Oklahoma. Bob

Bravo Kathryn Rosalind in Vegas Native Oklahoman and proud of it

In a message dated 99-11-08 18:07:56 EST, you write: << Bob, My relative came from Ky to Ok too! What was the attraction to leave such pretty county like Ky to go to the dry, barren land in Ok? Was it the free land or what? >> If you want dry barren land, try going to Southern Nevada. Like any other state it is not monoclimatic. Okla has woodlands in the East and praries in the middle and then some dry barren land in the west. But for the most part, there are trees and grass and yes mountains. These mountains are not barren they are beautiful and even have snow. And yes a lot of people moved to Okla. because of the promise of free land where they could start over and own their own lives. Unfortunately for the thousands of Native Americans who had already been removed there by the government. Okla can not be summed up by the phase free land and dry and barren. Rosalind in Vegas A native Oklahoman and proud of it.

Just a note to let you know that Oklahoma is not all dry - barren land. The eastern half is beautiful, with hills, valleys and wonderful farm land. When you go west out of Oklahoma City for at least 60-100 miles it is a beautiful rolling land very green and not many trees to give a farmer any problems. The far northwest is more dry and barren. My ancesters came from KY and other areas in the East. I feel they came west to make a better life for their family and to get away from the cities. I'll get off my soapbox now. I wish I lived in OK now but life has taken me back east and then now to TX. Also to make a better life for my family. Thanks for listening. Kathryn Phil Andrew wrote: > Depends on when your relative came. Land was cheap or free if they came > during either of the two major runs, 1889 or 1893. Don't forget there was a > major climate change in the later part of the last century and the earlier > part of this one. My grandfather remembered grass so tall that a man on a > horse could barely see over the top. > > The droughts of the 1920sand the infamous dustbowl of the 1930s truly > changed how people viewed Oklahoma. > > Cheers > > Phil424 > -----Original Message----- > From: Marian Alvis <marian@cyberhighway.net> > To: OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com <OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, November 08, 1999 5:11 PM > Subject: [OKGARFIE] Re: [OKGARFIE-L] Thanks Bob!--- > > >Bob, > >My relative came from Ky to Ok too! What was the attraction to leave > such > >pretty > >county like Ky to go to the dry, barren land in Ok? > >Was it the free land or what? > > > >Marian > >marian@cyberhighway.net > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Rosemary Webb <rosie@ipa.net> > >To: OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com <OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:38 PM > >Subject: [OKGARFIE-L] Thanks Bob! > > > > > >>I went to the library this afternoon & looked in the Garfield Co. Ok. > >>census. I actually found the family I was looking for in the 1910 & 1920 > >>census. I got so excited I looked around for someone to hug but didn't > see > >>a soul I knew...decided a stranger might not understand so I refrained. > >> > >>Then I got a bonus tonight. Bob sent me a high school year book picture > >of > >>my great uncles son. So I had a really good day. > >> > >>Here's what I found in the census. > >> > >>1910 Census for Garfield County Oklahoma > >>Robert E Duncan 43 m, Farmer, born Kentucky > >>Ula L. 27 f born Kentucky > >>Cyril 4 m born Oklahoma > >>William 2 m born Oklahoma > >> > >>1920 Census for Garfield County Oklahoma > >>Robert E Duncan 53 m, Farmer, Kentucky > >>Ula L. 39 f, Kentucky > >>Cyril Ralph 14 m, Oklahoma > >>William 11 m, Oklahoma > >>Milton C. 9 m, Oklahoma > >>Arthur S 7 m, Oklahona > >>Edwin 4, 4/12 m, Oklahoma > >>Syndell 2, 3/12 m, Oklahoma > >> > >> > >>==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== > >>Visit the Garfield County USGenWeb Home Page! > >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarfie/gar.htm > >> > >> > > > > > >==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== > >Visit the Garfield County USGenWeb Home Page! > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarfie/gar.htm > > > > > >============================== > >RootsWeb.com now offers UNLIMITED Web space for FREE! > >Sign up today for RootsWeb's Freepages program: > >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi > > > > ==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Garfield County USGenWeb Home Page! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarfie/gar.htm > > ============================== > RootsWeb.com now offers UNLIMITED Web space for FREE! > Sign up today for RootsWeb's Freepages program: > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi

Depends on when your relative came. Land was cheap or free if they came during either of the two major runs, 1889 or 1893. Don't forget there was a major climate change in the later part of the last century and the earlier part of this one. My grandfather remembered grass so tall that a man on a horse could barely see over the top. The droughts of the 1920sand the infamous dustbowl of the 1930s truly changed how people viewed Oklahoma. Cheers Phil424 -----Original Message----- From: Marian Alvis <marian@cyberhighway.net> To: OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com <OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, November 08, 1999 5:11 PM Subject: [OKGARFIE] Re: [OKGARFIE-L] Thanks Bob!--- >Bob, >My relative came from Ky to Ok too! What was the attraction to leave such >pretty >county like Ky to go to the dry, barren land in Ok? >Was it the free land or what? > >Marian >marian@cyberhighway.net >-----Original Message----- >From: Rosemary Webb <rosie@ipa.net> >To: OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com <OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com> >Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:38 PM >Subject: [OKGARFIE-L] Thanks Bob! > > >>I went to the library this afternoon & looked in the Garfield Co. Ok. >>census. I actually found the family I was looking for in the 1910 & 1920 >>census. I got so excited I looked around for someone to hug but didn't see >>a soul I knew...decided a stranger might not understand so I refrained. >> >>Then I got a bonus tonight. Bob sent me a high school year book picture >of >>my great uncles son. So I had a really good day. >> >>Here's what I found in the census. >> >>1910 Census for Garfield County Oklahoma >>Robert E Duncan 43 m, Farmer, born Kentucky >>Ula L. 27 f born Kentucky >>Cyril 4 m born Oklahoma >>William 2 m born Oklahoma >> >>1920 Census for Garfield County Oklahoma >>Robert E Duncan 53 m, Farmer, Kentucky >>Ula L. 39 f, Kentucky >>Cyril Ralph 14 m, Oklahoma >>William 11 m, Oklahoma >>Milton C. 9 m, Oklahoma >>Arthur S 7 m, Oklahona >>Edwin 4, 4/12 m, Oklahoma >>Syndell 2, 3/12 m, Oklahoma >> >> >>==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== >>Visit the Garfield County USGenWeb Home Page! >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarfie/gar.htm >> >> > > >==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== >Visit the Garfield County USGenWeb Home Page! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarfie/gar.htm > > >============================== >RootsWeb.com now offers UNLIMITED Web space for FREE! >Sign up today for RootsWeb's Freepages program: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi >

Mr. See's query... In reference to Bob See's puzzle about his ancestors...Bob have you sent for the person's death certificate? It should provide the names of the parents and maybe an informant for the certificate was a sibling?? Good Luck Phyllis in MO ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.

Hi Marian, Good to hear from you again. Actually my grandfather William O. See was born in Indiana and his father, william See came to Kansas to claim some free land. You make a good point. I guess they didn't know but what maybe this country would be just like where they came from! I am still at a brick wall with my grt grandfather, william See. I know he was born in Spencer co. Indiana and got a medical discharge from the civil war and moved to Kansas for the free land. I don't know if he had parents or siblings!!! Take care and good hunting. Bob +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Bob See, Ham Radio Licensee N5PC, has made two way + communication with every country on earth. It only + took 53 years! + email: n5pc@poncacity.net +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Bob, My relative came from Ky to Ok too! What was the attraction to leave such pretty county like Ky to go to the dry, barren land in Ok? Was it the free land or what? Marian marian@cyberhighway.net -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Webb <rosie@ipa.net> To: OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com <OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:38 PM Subject: [OKGARFIE-L] Thanks Bob! >I went to the library this afternoon & looked in the Garfield Co. Ok. >census. I actually found the family I was looking for in the 1910 & 1920 >census. I got so excited I looked around for someone to hug but didn't see >a soul I knew...decided a stranger might not understand so I refrained. > >Then I got a bonus tonight. Bob sent me a high school year book picture of >my great uncles son. So I had a really good day. > >Here's what I found in the census. > >1910 Census for Garfield County Oklahoma >Robert E Duncan 43 m, Farmer, born Kentucky >Ula L. 27 f born Kentucky >Cyril 4 m born Oklahoma >William 2 m born Oklahoma > >1920 Census for Garfield County Oklahoma >Robert E Duncan 53 m, Farmer, Kentucky >Ula L. 39 f, Kentucky >Cyril Ralph 14 m, Oklahoma >William 11 m, Oklahoma >Milton C. 9 m, Oklahoma >Arthur S 7 m, Oklahona >Edwin 4, 4/12 m, Oklahoma >Syndell 2, 3/12 m, Oklahoma > > >==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== >Visit the Garfield County USGenWeb Home Page! >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgarfie/gar.htm > >

Congratulations and thank you so much for taking over the Garfield list for me, it is so appreciated! Live Well-Laugh Often-Love Much Yvonne in Burke, VA )O(

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What does a list administrator have to know/do to be a list administrator. I'm not all that computer literate but I would like to see this list continue and will help if I can. Suzanne Rogers

Hello Everyone, For personal reasons, Yvonne has had to cut back on her online activities. She sent RootsWeb a list of several mailing lists she'd like to find new list administrators for. Of which, this list is one (and why I'm cross posting to several lists at once). If you are interested in becoming the list administrator for this list, please email listmaster@rootsweb.com. When emailing, please reference the list name. Sincerely, Vicki Lindsay RootsWeb Staff listmaster@rootsweb.com

I found this article online at the Winfield, Cowley County, Kansas web site. I though some of you might enjoy reading it. As it turned out Robert Duncan Jr. is the son of my great uncle. I am now in touch with the son of William Duncan (Junior Duncan's older brother) who is really into genealogy & we are exchanging info. Thanks to all you kind folks who sent me information. Rosemary http://skyways.lib.ks.us/genweb/cowley/names/duncan.htm Submitted by Robert E Duncan Scanned out of the Cowley County Heritage book, page 161. Winfield Kansas Robert E. Duncan Family My mother and father migrated from Lawrenceburg, Kentucky to Garfield County, Oklahoma when the Cherokee Strip opened for settlement in 1896. I attended school in Garber, Okla. and spent one year at University of Oklahoma before coming to Southwestern College in 1941. I flew dive bombers off the U.S.S. Lexington during World War 2. Jane Gary of Winfield and I were married Dec. 25, 1944. Her father was George Gary, well-known pioneer banker of Winfield. After the war I worked several years in oilfields. In 1961 we founded Winfield Iron and Metal Inc. and later added Ark City Steel and Welding Supply. We have three children, Dana, Gary and Craig. Dana is a Southwestern College graduate. She has one daughter, Rebecah, lives in Winfield and is office manager for Winfield Iron and Metal. She was instrumental in getting the Viet Nam memorial erected in Memorial park. Gary is a Kansas University law school graduate. He and his wife, Molly, live in Santa Fe, N.M. and have a son, David, and a daughter, Daisy. Craig is a Kansas State University graduate in banking. He and his wife, Diana, live in Winfield and have two sons, Spencer and Taylor. Craig and I serve as board directors of First National Bank of Winfield. I served eight years on Winfield City Commission with two of those years as Mayor. My wife, Jane, has served many years on William Newton Hospital board of directors. Submitted by Robert E Duncan

Sherry... Since your ancestor was born before statehood, there would have been no state requirement for a birth certificate. What happened, though, to a great many people is that sometime later in life there was a need for the kind of identification that birth certificates provide, ie registering for Social Security, and there will be a sworn statement in the State Archives where birth certificates are kept. This happened in my family for several people. Don't have an address for the state office, but you can probably get that off the net. Cheers, phil424 phil424@ prodigy.net -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Davis-Ellis <bluefairies@uswest.net> To: OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com <OKGARFIE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, October 18, 1999 3:16 AM Subject: [OKGARFIE-L] Haddox/Haddock >Looking for Flossie Ann Haddox born 1902. In Enid city. >Father names is Thomas Carey Haddox. Mother Edna. Is there a >way to get a birth certificate? >Sherry Davis-Ellis > > >==== OKGARFIE Mailing List ==== > Search this list's archived messages! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Looking for Flossie Ann Haddox born 1902. In Enid city. Father names is Thomas Carey Haddox. Mother Edna. Is there a way to get a birth certificate? Sherry Davis-Ellis