Wanda, It is me, Marcia. His daughter told me. She used to date my brother, David. I don't know if it was just that the family didn't want to accept suicide or not. I knew John through Bob. He used to go hunting with John. Did he commit suicide? Or what? Speaking of Bob, we would have been married 47 years yesterday, Fri 13. I still consider the number 13 my lucky number. I have 3 grandchildren born on the 13 of the month. Isn't Mar 13 Frieda's birthday? One of my granddaughters birthday is Mar 13. Let me know about Glenn. Do you see his daughter, is it Gayanne or Gaylene. Marcia