This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/gYB.2ACE/2557.1 Message Board Post: I have come across red a few times in oklahma if this is the same one he was a good athelete and had brothers and sisters. It has been some time but the info is out there as I found it on other message boards. hope this helps.