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    1. Re: [OKCREEK-L] to get acquainted
    2. I know I should be grateful for what I have; however, I somehow am not quite satisfied with Grandpa's secret life, especially since I had always looked on him as a knight in shining armour. He evidently told his family he was going to KC to trade or ? And also, was he a gambler like you see on the tv. Ah, well, those things I will probably never know. Mama always said he was buried in Muskogee, but when my husband and went there in 1994, we could not find a trace of him. Also, his oldest son, Lee, was a lot like him, and the last time my Mom and his Mother saw him, he was supposed to be going to either Arizona or NM. to try to get over TB. They never saw or heard from him again. He left his family in Creek Co. OK. and in 1995, I found his son, Leo Ragon, in Mesa, AZ. and he said he and his wife had tried to trace him, and had even used an agency, and could not find a trace of him. I guess like father, like son. I know I will have to be satisfied with what I have. The parts of this family that I know are that the youngest son, Oscar, died at age 27 of TB, in Oklahoma. Really, I wish I could have met some of this family. My Mother was a wonderful person, and I treasure her memory. Here is maybe one part of this family you may help in. My Grandma, Lizzie Ragon (her maiden name was Benus) had a Dad who came over from England with his brother and their family. On the way over, on the boat, there was a disease of Cholera and the parents of these two boys, and maybe others of the family, died, and were buried at sea. This is probably an unsolvable thing too, but I would sure like to find out the parents of the boys, and also to find out what happened to the brother. It was said that the two boys (ages 10 and 12) were put off the ship and told they would have to shift for themselves. I did find the one boy, who was my GGrandfather (never met him), but some relatives who knew him said he was close mouthed, and would never speak of the incident on the ship. Who knows, it was probably too traumatic to him. I am probably snatching at straws! I have searched ledgers of ships, and can't find them. Probably I have more than some folks have. You are most kind to have listened to me. Perhaps if anyone knows anything that might help me, they could contact me. Thank you kindly. Allene/AZ.

    08/29/2004 12:26:08