WHEN: 9pm Saturday - Oklahoma time WHAT: Tonight we focus on the 1930 Census Bring your names (one per visitor) and let our volunteer do a lookup for you. WHERE: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/spinchat.htm WHO: Anyone interested in Oklahoma Genealogy is invited. Saturday chat reminders are sent to various mailing list (check headers above) and the general public is invited. Feel free to pass the notice on to other list. Tonight's chat will be general in nature and open to anyone interested in attending. Bring your questions and we'll try to help. >>>>> Follow this link so you don't end up in another chat room. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/spinchat.htm See our SPINCHAT HOW-TO page with graphics if you need assistance. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/chat.htm If you tried to join before without success, I hope you will try again. If the name you choose to login as ask for a password, try another unique name. Some using Netscape Navigator are not able to access the page. I have 4.7 and have no problem accessing the site. Marti OKGenWeb State Coordinator http://www.usgenweb.org/ok

WHEN: 9pm Saturday - Oklahoma time WHAT: Tonight we focus on the 1930 Census Bring your names (one per visitor) and let our volunteer do a lookup for you. WHERE: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/spinchat.htm WHO: Anyone interested in Oklahoma Genealogy is invited. Saturday chat reminders are sent to various mailing list (check headers above) and the general public is invited. Feel free to pass the notice on to other list. Tonight's chat will be general in nature and open to anyone interested in attending. Bring your questions and we'll try to help. >>>>> Follow this link so you don't end up in another chat room. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/spinchat.htm See our SPINCHAT HOW-TO page with graphics if you need assistance. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/chat.htm If you tried to join before without success, I hope you will try again. If the name you choose to login as ask for a password, try another unique name. Some using Netscape Navigator are not able to access the page. I have 4.7 and have no problem accessing the site. Marti OKGenWeb State Coordinator http://www.usgenweb.org/ok

-------- original message ----- --- Leslie Moore <lmoore@ecsis.net wrote: From: "Leslie Moore" <lmoore@ecsis.net Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 17:57:24 -0500 Subject: [OK-CEM] Memorial Day This is a suggestion that came through on another list - I am copying it here with the permission of the writer whose name is listed at the end of the email. As Memorial Day approaches, I was reminded again that this is the time where family members wish they were nearby to place flowers on graves, but can't because of distance, health, or whatever. When you shop for those memorial flowers and wreaths for your own loved ones, won't you join me in picking up a couple of $1 bunches of flowers to place on those lonely graves where no flowers are placed? Do it for the family members who may not be close enough or healthy enough to do it.. do it for those who have long since gone but used to care for the graves. Do it, just because you're a family historian, and care about these who have passed before us. Do it, because it just feels good! It is a special feeling know that these who would have been without, can now show that someone cared! Lanita Sconce Miller Any family tree produces some lemons, some nuts and a few bad apples.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/books/thoburn/index.htm Adams, Dr. P. M. s/o Edmond F. Adams (b 1853 Virginia & Kentucky) and Louella M. Tatum (Arkansas) who moved to Hunt Co. Texas. P.M. Adams settled in Big Cabin, Oklahoma and later became superintendent of the East Oklahoma Hospital at Vinita. Married Mame Buttler (b Indian Territory) Berentz, W. T. born 1867 Danville, Illinois; s/o Jeremiah Berentz (b Ohio) and Emma Olmstead; family lived in Kansas until 1890 when they moved to Indian Territory; 1901 he moved to Bartlesville; owned Berentz Hardware Company and a furniture and undertaking establishment; 1903 married Florence Forrester d/o William Forrester Vann, William born Willis Oklahoma (Chickasaw Nation) 1868, married Fannie Doyle of Webber Falls in 1891; moved to Woodville (Marshall Co.) Vann, J. H. born Webber Falls in Canadian District, Cherokee Nation; s/o William and Lottie Vann; moved to Woodville; married Laula Gresham in 1902 Vann, David W. merchant of Marshall Co.; s/o William Vann (Sheriff of Canadian District, Cherokee Nation) and Lottie Willis (d/o J. Hamp Willis)

Hi all - The interviews below have been added to the Indian Pioneer Papers at http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/ Link freely but do not copy and paste the interviews to other mailing list or web sites. Pitts, Robert Tulsa Co. blacksmith who came into Choctaw Nation, Skullyville area, talks of families he knew in McAlester & Claremore, making the Strip Run; married Nona Jourdan of Russellville, AR McGinnis, George Muskogee, OK came in Checotah from Webb City, AR; 1902 moved into Cherokee Nation near Porum, married Fannie Crane Elliott, William Henryetta, OK long interview with a great deal of information worked at Cobb & Hutton Ranch near Sac & Fox line; bear hunting, indian houses, Indian law, Osages on Warpath, building Osage houses, Osage burial, Osage Medicine, Belle Starr, Dalton Gang Enjoy!! Marti

Call the clerk's office in Drumright. Creek county is one of the counties in OK that has more then one "sub stations" don't know the right word that keeps records. It functions as a court house for a particular area. The county seat of Creek county but they have a sub function house in Bristow and Drumright. This is not really unique as there are others who have the same capabilities. ellen

Is there anyone on this list who lives near or around the Shamrock area. I need to know if there is someone who could look up marriage records. My grandmother Ada Jane Seymour married Robert (Bert) Taylor 01/17/1915 in Shamrock Okla. I am trying to find a copy of the marriage records. This is the date my grandmother had given me and said it was in Shamrock that they married. If there is anyone who can help I would appreciate. Thanks Edie

I live in Bristow. Send me the info and I'll try to find what you need. -----Original Message----- From: emcht [mailto:emcht@oecadvantage.net] Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 5:42 PM To: OKCREEK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OKCREEK-L] Chat Reminder Is there anyone on this list who lives near or around the Shamrock area. I need to know about a burial there in a cemetery. thanks. ellen ==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== Creek Co. Cemeteries http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcreek/cemeteries/

Is there anyone on this list who lives near or around the Shamrock area. I need to know about a burial there in a cemetery. thanks. ellen

WHEN: 9pm Saturday - Oklahoma time WHAT: Your Oklahoma Genealogy questions covering state, county, Native American, maps, etc. WHERE: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/spinchat.htm WHO: Anyone interested in Oklahoma Genealogy is invited. Saturday chat reminders are sent to various mailing list (check headers above) and the general public is invited. Feel free to pass the notice on to other list. Tonight's chat will be general in nature and open to anyone interested in attending. Bring your questions and we'll try to help. >>>>> Follow this link so you don't end up in another chat room. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/spinchat.htm See our SPINCHAT HOW-TO page with graphics if you need assistance. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/chat.htm If you tried to join before without success, I hope you will try again. If the name you choose to login as ask for a password, try another unique name. Some using Netscape Navigator are not able to access the page. I have 4.7 and have no problem accessing the site. Marti OKGenWeb State Coordinator http://www.usgenweb.org/ok

Dear Listers: I am hoping that someone on this list will be able to do a look up for me. I have addressed this message to several Lists and I apologize if you receive more than one of this message. This is my story: My grandmother Ethel LAWES b. 1887 in Ontario, Canada travelled to Chicago, Cook Co., Illinois about 1910 and stayed with her sister until she found a job. She was hired by the Fred Harvey Restaurant system which operated out of the Santa Fe Railroad line. As the story goes Fred Harvery hired women to be waitresses to prepare and serve meals to people who were travelling westward from the 1880's to 1950's. She was required to sign a contract stating that she would work for Fred Harvey and that during her contract that she could not marry, could not become pregnant. At the end of their contract the Railroad would take them where they wanted to be dropped off. My Grandfather Herbert Scott BOYER (s) born in Freedom, Owen Co., Indiana in 1882 supposedly was also hired by either the Railroad or the Fred Harvey Restaurant System. He also had signed a contract. Now these two people met while employed by Fred Harvey System or Santa Fe Railroad. At the end of their contract these two people supposedly married about March to June 1912. They travelled to Douglas, Cochise Co., Arizona where my father was born May 11, 1913. I found the home in which they were living, I also found a page from the City Directory of Douglas, Arizona showing that Herbert S. Boyer and Ethel Lawes Boyer (s) were living on 820 13th Street in Douglas. They also had an insurance policy on the home they were living in at the time. I also found out that Herbert was employed at the White House Cafe in Douglas, Arizona When my father was 10 months old my grandmother asked the local priest to take her to the train and make sure they got safely onto the train and left Douglas. She was taking my father and was going back to Inwood, Ontario, Canada where her family was living. She left my grandfather behind. He evidently wasn't a very good husband and father. He had extracurricular activites that were not conducive to a good marriage. My grandmother divorced him. Now Herbert returned home sometime later to his family in Freedom, Owen Co., Indiana where he lived the rest of his life. He married in 1931 to another woman and they had no children. He died in September 1960. My father died in October 1959 and my grandmother died in December 1962. I am looking for a marriage license for Herbert Scott Boyer (s) and Ethel Lawes. Herberts' birthdate was April 26, 1882 and my grandmothers' birth was May 16, 1887. Herberts' parents were William Scott Boyer(s) and Mary Elizabeth Perry. My grandmothers' parents were Henry Lawes and Emily Moore. According to one of Herbert's descendants Herbert never left home for more than two days in his whole life so he thinks I may have the wrong one but I have pictures of him and my grandmother together and my father listed Herbert as his father on his Social Security Application. I have not been able to find another Herbert Scott Boyer(s) born in that time frame anywhere. When I wrote Social Security I was given the information from my fathers application and this matches this Herbert Scott Boyer(s). If there is someone who could do a marriage lookup for me I would be most grateful as I have been looking for many years and I just came across the Santa Fe railroad map showing me where all of the train stations were between 1880 and 1950 and that is why I am writing this message in the hopes that I might be able to locate the marriage record. My grandmother also married a second time to a man from Dupage County, Illinois about 1916-1918 and I have not been able to locate that marriage record either. The second husbands name was William H. HAWBECKER. Thank you in advance for reading this long message and I hope someone is able to help me. Jean Payton jeanpayton@earthlink.net

Sorry Webb researchers that last message I meant to send direct to Shirley. Please excuse.

Can't remember which messages I responded to but think I wrote you that I did not have a Henry Clay Webb in all this stuff. (made the mistake of cleaning mail files yesterday). How are you connected to the Webb families? I would almost bet the farm we are cousins as well. A friend and I are trying to get together on a date to go to Bristow. She wants to go to Bolin's to look for her husband a truck. We broke down in her car a year ago in Bristow on our way to Okla. City, and instead of waiting for them to repair it she just bought a new one and away we went. Believe it or not on the other side of the family I am connected to the Bolin's but not sure to the Bristow bunch. I know the McGuires down around there are distantly related. Judy Shirley Groom wrote: > I'm also researching the Webb family. I live in Bristow and will go search > the cemetery records for you. Your received an e-mail from a Patti about a > Bob and Charley Webb. Bob is Charley son they are my distant cousins. I may > be wrong but this Edgar Webb maybe Charley brother. I'll e-mail you maybe > later today as I'm going to the library today. > > Do you have any information on a Henry Clay Webb? He was my grandmothers > father and I'm at a brick wall as far as he is concerned. I think he was a > preacher. > > I'll be back in touch soon. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy [mailto:jgood@cableone.net] > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 9:12 PM > To: OKCREEK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [OKCREEK-L] WEBB Family > > We are trying to find the burial place of the following. > > Ed Webb (name on obit says R. E. which we believe to be Robert Edgar) > b. 1881 Camden Co., MO. D. 1930 Camden Co. body by train to Bristow > for burial. > > He and his wife Bessie were back in Camden Co. MO visiting relatives, > and he was working temporarily clearing timber. He was accidentally > killed while on this job. Obit states the body was prepared in MO and > then shipped by train to Bristow for burial. Edd and Bessie had been > living in the Bristow area for sometime. > > If there is anyone out there researching the Webb family, please contact > me. Appreciate any and all clues to where this man might be buried. > Thanks > > Judy > > ==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== > OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ > Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm > > ==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== > Have you visited our Creek Co. PhotoGallery? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcreek/photos/ > Have one you'd like to share?? email me creek_co@yahoo.com

I'm also researching the Webb family. I live in Bristow and will go search the cemetery records for you. Your received an e-mail from a Patti about a Bob and Charley Webb. Bob is Charley son they are my distant cousins. I may be wrong but this Edgar Webb maybe Charley brother. I'll e-mail you maybe later today as I'm going to the library today. Do you have any information on a Henry Clay Webb? He was my grandmothers father and I'm at a brick wall as far as he is concerned. I think he was a preacher. I'll be back in touch soon. -----Original Message----- From: Judy [mailto:jgood@cableone.net] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 9:12 PM To: OKCREEK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OKCREEK-L] WEBB Family We are trying to find the burial place of the following. Ed Webb (name on obit says R. E. which we believe to be Robert Edgar) b. 1881 Camden Co., MO. D. 1930 Camden Co. body by train to Bristow for burial. He and his wife Bessie were back in Camden Co. MO visiting relatives, and he was working temporarily clearing timber. He was accidentally killed while on this job. Obit states the body was prepared in MO and then shipped by train to Bristow for burial. Edd and Bessie had been living in the Bristow area for sometime. If there is anyone out there researching the Webb family, please contact me. Appreciate any and all clues to where this man might be buried. Thanks Judy ==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== OK Surname Registry - added yours? http://www.rootsweb.com/~oknames/ Search 4 surnames - http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/search.htm

The only place at that time is probably the Bristow City Cemetery, Magnolia Cemetery was not open until the 40's. The records are kept on computer at the court house. The only phone number I could find for the court house said District Attorney 918-367-6505. My folks came from Camden Mo. about 1919, there was a couple named Mr. and Mrs. Webb that lived across from my great aunt, I knew no other name. The only child of Mr. and Mrs. Webb was at least a Bob, owned a grocery store for years and I know of a Charley Webb that later on opened up one as well, I don't know if Charley is Bob's brother or not. This is not your Mr. Webb, but a possible relative. Good Luck When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.

We are trying to find the burial place of the following. Ed Webb (name on obit says R. E. which we believe to be Robert Edgar) b. 1881 Camden Co., MO. D. 1930 Camden Co. body by train to Bristow for burial. He and his wife Bessie were back in Camden Co. MO visiting relatives, and he was working temporarily clearing timber. He was accidentally killed while on this job. Obit states the body was prepared in MO and then shipped by train to Bristow for burial. Edd and Bessie had been living in the Bristow area for sometime. If there is anyone out there researching the Webb family, please contact me. Appreciate any and all clues to where this man might be buried. Thanks Judy

Link freely but do not copy and paste the interviews to other mailing list or web sites. Indian Pioneer History Project for Oklahoma http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/ Thomas Gritts - Tahlequah Sutherland, Mackie (Mrs.) Mangum, OK Blackwell, Benjamin H. Oklahoma City - talks about No Mans Land Raphael L. Wilson - Hugo, OK Darneal, Mary Long - Williams, OK How Can You Help??? see http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/pioneer/submit.htm Thoburn, Joseph B., A Standard History of Oklahoma http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/books/thoburn/index.htm Bisbee, Walter - Chandler, Lincoln Co. Bozarth, Mark - Okmulgee Co. Brown, Andrew - Wewoka & Seminole Nation Brown, Harry - Anadarko, Caddo Co. Butler, Timothy - Weatherford, OK Crain, Alex - Seminole Co. Foster, H V - Bartlesville & Osage Nation Gordon, J Matt - Weatherford, OK Houston, Temple - Woodward Co. Roope, Rufus - Lincoln Co. Seba, William - Dewey Co. Strang, Jeremiah - Guthrie White, J W - Edmond, OK Wilhite, Logan - Woods Co.

WHEN: 9pm Saturday - Oklahoma time WHAT: Your Oklahoma Genealogy questions covering state, county, Native American, maps, etc. WHERE: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/spinchat.htm WHO: Anyone interested in Oklahoma Genealogy is invited. Saturday chat reminders are sent to various mailing list (check headers above) and the general public is invited. Feel free to pass the notice on to other list. Tonight's chat will be general in nature and open to anyone interested in attending. Bring your questions and we'll try to help. >>>>> Follow this link so you don't end up in another chat room. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/spinchat.htm See our SPINCHAT HOW-TO page with graphics if you need assistance. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/chat.htm If you tried to join before without success, I hope you will try again. If the name you choose to login as ask for a password, try another unique name. Some using Netscape Navigator are not able to access the page. I have 4.7 and have no problem accessing the site. Marti OKGenWeb State Coordinator http://www.usgenweb.org/ok

http://www.rootsweb.com/~itgenweb/apps/index.htm Cherokee Nation Miller Applications updated to include: Thomas J. Tadpole alias Brewer - Tahlequah Nannie Brewer, Hattie M., and Jessie L. Brewer, & William Brewer (Joplin, MO) Joseph Muskrat Delaware Co., Afton, Oklahoma Lucy Beaver Adair Co., Bunch, Oklahoma Mary Still nee Fogg/Killwoman Sequoyah Co., Salisaw, Oklahoma Margaret 'Maggie' McDonald nee French Prowers Co., Granada, Colorado James Scullawl/Scullowle Cherokee Co., Hulbert, Oklahoma Lizzie Backwater nee Mellowbug Delaware Co., Oaks, Oklahoma Julia Nave nee Eagle Cherokee Co., Tahlequah, Oklahoma Alva M. Murphy nee Rogers Craig Co., Big Cabin, Oklahoma Betsy Young nee Christie Cherokee Co., Wauhillau, Oklahoma George Herrell Carthage, Missouri James Herrell Carthage, Missouri

http://www.rootsweb.com/~itgenweb/apps/index.htm Cherokee Nation Miller Applications updated to include: John Gideon Morris George Morris Edwin Otto Nash Nelson Proctor Nelson McDaniel Suagee, Peter C. Lydia Proctor nee Duck Sarah O'Field nee Waterback William Fool Simington, Patsy nee McDaniel Bird, Nellie nee Simmons George W. Brewer Walter P. Brewer Mack Brewer Stephen Fodder Nellie McKay nee Catcher/Ketcher John Alberty Joseph Alexander Morris William Julius McKee Eliza Beaver Mary Johns nee Beaver