I was kinda hoping it would get sent again, I didn't even get to see it the first time. Not sure why it didn't make it to my email box. Bobbi On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:15:18 -0600, Gene Phillips <okienms@telepath.com> wrote: > I sent a brief history of Shamrock to the list yesterday, but I'm not a nice lady. As a matter of fact, I'm not even a lady. > I got the information from "Ghost Towns of Oklahoma" by John W Morris. > > Gene > > At 09:40 AM 1/30/2005, Kerniep@aol.com wrote: > >To the nice lady who gave a brief history of the town of Shamrock, OK. - I > >lost this, and would appreciate looking at it again and making a copy of it. > >Thank you. Allene > > > > > >==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== > >How to Locate a Town or County > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/locatetown.htm > > > ==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== > Creek Co. OKGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcreek > Creek Nation - Indian Territory > http://www.rootsweb.com/~itcreek/ > > -- Bobbi Dunn My Home; http://myfamily.150m.com Volunteer for RAOGK in Creek Co., OK http://www.raogk.org/ alternate email: bluerose68@yahoo.com Proud Member of: IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Webmaster for Depew PTA http://depewpta.150m.com CC for Okmulgee co., Okmulgee Archives, McIntosh co., & co-CC for Atoka OKGenWeb, and volunteer for Creek co. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/counties/countyquick.htm

Only Clemons I have met were in Marshall County, AL at a town named Arab. There is a small creek there named Clemons Branch. Clif Hinds Gaylenewk@aol.com wrote: He was my great-grandfather and resided in Creek County about 1920 where he is listed as a farmer. Sometime before the census for 1930 he moved to Yale and was listed as a police officer. His date of birth is 1 August 1872 and he died on 11 December 1945 in Gregg Co., Texas. Are these details familiar to anyone else searching in this County? Happy Hunting, Gayle Newkirk Gayle Clemons Newkirk ==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== Have you visited the OKGenWeb lately? http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term'

I sent a brief history of Shamrock to the list yesterday, but I'm not a nice lady. As a matter of fact, I'm not even a lady. I got the information from "Ghost Towns of Oklahoma" by John W Morris. Gene At 09:40 AM 1/30/2005, Kerniep@aol.com wrote: >To the nice lady who gave a brief history of the town of Shamrock, OK. - I >lost this, and would appreciate looking at it again and making a copy of it. >Thank you. Allene > > >==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== >How to Locate a Town or County >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/locatetown.htm

According to my mapping program it's 40.6 miles from Downtown Sapulpa to Macawber. Gene At 11:37 PM 1/29/2005, Kerniep@aol.com wrote: >Gene, > My husband and I checked the mileage from Micawber to Sapulpa, and - as the >crow flies, it is about 30-35 miles, and give and take a bit, it would not be >more than 50, 55 at the most from Micawber to Sapulpa. > > >==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== >Creek Co. OKGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcreek >Creek Nation - Indian Territory >http://www.rootsweb.com/~itcreek/

He was my great-grandfather and resided in Creek County about 1920 where he is listed as a farmer. Sometime before the census for 1930 he moved to Yale and was listed as a police officer. His date of birth is 1 August 1872 and he died on 11 December 1945 in Gregg Co., Texas. Are these details familiar to anyone else searching in this County? Happy Hunting, Gayle Newkirk Gayle Clemons Newkirk

What area of Creek County, do you know the town or township? Bobbi Dunn On 30 Jan 2005 09:26:38 -0700, lhicks1@cfl.rr.com <lhicks1@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Willoughby Hatton > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gYB.2ACE/13164 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for death dates and cemetery of burials for William Henry Willoughby born about 1857 and his wife Nancy (Hatton) Willoughby born about 1858; they were land owners in 1920 and 1930 census of Creek County. Thanks for your help. > > ==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== > Oklahoma Vital Records Information - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/vital/vital.html > > -- Bobbi Dunn My Home; http://myfamily.150m.com Volunteer for RAOGK in Creek Co., OK http://www.raogk.org/ alternate email: bluerose68@yahoo.com Proud Member of: IBSSG http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/ Webmaster for Depew PTA http://depewpta.150m.com CC for Okmulgee co., Okmulgee Archives, McIntosh co., & co-CC for Atoka OKGenWeb, and volunteer for Creek co. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/counties/countyquick.htm

To the nice lady who gave a brief history of the town of Shamrock, OK. - I lost this, and would appreciate looking at it again and making a copy of it. Thank you. Allene

Anna, A great big thank you for looking. I didn't really expect anything. I believe, like some of the other folks from that time, that little Malcolm was buried without a stone, because my Mother probably did not have the money for a funeral, although I remember her telling us that a lovely song, 'Safe in the Arms of Jesus' was sung when he was buried. Allene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Willoughby Hatton Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/gYB.2ACE/13164 Message Board Post: Looking for death dates and cemetery of burials for William Henry Willoughby born about 1857 and his wife Nancy (Hatton) Willoughby born about 1858; they were land owners in 1920 and 1930 census of Creek County. Thanks for your help.

nothing for the name Bruce in the old Sapulpa Cemetery ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kerniep@aol.com> To: <OKCREEK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [OKCREEK-L] Sapulpa Cemetery Plot Ownership Help Please > The name is: Malcolm Henry Bruce, b. abt. 1912/13, or death abt. 1913/14. > Thanks very much. > > > ==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>>> OKGenWeb Chat <<<<<<<< > ......... Mark your calendars........ > WHEN: Every Saturday at 9pm-10pm Oklahoma time > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/spinchat.htm > Come in and schmooz with other Oklahoma CC's and if you need a lookup, > holler. > >

Buzz, Thanks for this interesting story about Drumwright. I hope you get an answer to your question. Allene

Gene, My husband and I checked the mileage from Micawber to Sapulpa, and - as the crow flies, it is about 30-35 miles, and give and take a bit, it would not be more than 50, 55 at the most from Micawber to Sapulpa.

Drumright was also a boom town in the 'teens. My dad arrived in Drumright on the first train into the town. It was in 1915, and he was about six years old. There are murals in the bank in Drumright showing the Cimarron River, north of Oilton, with drilling platforms so close together you could almost walk across the river without getting your feet wet. Does anyone out there know anything about an oilfield fire in which a tank burned and was extinguished by a man going up on the tank and smothering the fire with something. My brothers and I have an ongoing discussion about whether the fire was in a tank truck or an oilfield tank. My grandfather is the man who extinguished the flames. _BuzzOK@aol.com_ (mailto:BuzzOK@aol.com)

It was evidently close enough to go by team and wagon, because Sapulpa was where my Mother's Mom took her and her fiance in 1911, to be married. I have a copy of their marriage license from Sapulpa, and then I know Mama and her husband lived in Micawber after their marriage. Thanks anyway.

This is really interesting to hear the history of Shamrock!! I don't know the history of Micawber, but it would be interesting to find out.

At 08:08 PM 1/29/2005, Kerniep@aol.com wrote: >Oh, by the way, Micawber can be found on old maps. When my husband went to >OK. in 1994, we only found a real old sign by the place where Micawber used to >be. My husband was born there in 1930, in a cotton/oil field in a tent. It >evidently was a VERY SMALL place.Thanks again. Will look forward to hearing >from you, whether you find my info. or not. It's on my mapping program. Your message reminded me of Shamrock in Creek County. Did you know it is considered a ghost town because of its large population drop. In 1913 it was a sleepy hamlet of about 35 people. Then in 1914 oil was discovered nearby and the population exploded to over 10,000 people. After the oil boom subsided so did the population. It's back to being a sleepy little town again. My stepfather was born there in 1919. I'm sure his parents probably came there because of the oil field. That was the occupation him and at least 3 of his brothers followed. If you look on a map that shows all roads, you will see a huge network or roads northeast of Shamrock and southeast of Drumright. I think that's where the oilfields were.

Micawber is nowhere near Sapulpa. It's in Okfuskee County about 12-13 miles due south of Depew. It was named for a character created by Charles Dickens in the novel David Copperfield. Gene At 09:20 AM 1/29/2005, annie wrote: >I am sorry I have lived in Sapulpa 75 years and I have never heard of Micawber. what is the name and I will look in the book with early burials. also the Sapulpa Public Library has any records that were kept >----- Original Message ----- From: <Kerniep@aol.com> >To: <OKCREEK-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:12 PM >Subject: Re: [OKCREEK-L] Sapulpa Cemetery Plot Ownership Help Please > > >>I should have explained that my Mother was born in the Salisaw area, and in >> 1898, her Father died, and the family was at loose ends, and her Mother took >> the family to the Micawber area, where my Mother met her husband to be. >> Mother's Mom took Mama and her fiance to Salisaw to be married. I have the record of >> their marriage in Sapulpa. So, that is the reason I asked a lookup for the >> baby's birth/death in the Sapulpa/Micawber area. >> >> >> ==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== >>>>>>>>>> OKGenWeb Chat <<<<<<<< >> ......... Mark your calendars........ >> WHEN: Every Saturday at 9pm-10pm Oklahoma time >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/helplinks/chat/spinchat.htm >> Come in and schmooz with other Oklahoma CC's and if you need a lookup, holler. >> >> > > > >==== OKCREEK Mailing List ==== >Have you visited the OKGenWeb lately? >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/

I should have thought about all the questions I needed to ask. Is the Sapulpa Library online? Thanks again.

Oh, by the way, Micawber can be found on old maps. When my husband went to OK. in 1994, we only found a real old sign by the place where Micawber used to be. My husband was born there in 1930, in a cotton/oil field in a tent. It evidently was a VERY SMALL place.Thanks again. Will look forward to hearing from you, whether you find my info. or not.

The name is: Malcolm Henry Bruce, b. abt. 1912/13, or death abt. 1913/14. Thanks very much.