Might be a fun trip. My cousins and I like to drive about and hit several of these communities in a day. Bob Marden Another fun trip is to get on some of those sand roads around Oilton. Marcia Mondier Perguidi wrote: > Bob, > > No, I have not been there. This is the first time that I ever heard of > "Skidee". > > Marcia

Apologies to the list. This is something that belongs on personal correspondence. Thought I had done that, but guess I was wrong. Will do so. Wanda

Bob, No, I have not been there. This is the first time that I ever heard of "Skidee". Marcia

Wanda, It is me, Marcia. His daughter told me. She used to date my brother, David. I don't know if it was just that the family didn't want to accept suicide or not. I knew John through Bob. He used to go hunting with John. Did he commit suicide? Or what? Speaking of Bob, we would have been married 47 years yesterday, Fri 13. I still consider the number 13 my lucky number. I have 3 grandchildren born on the 13 of the month. Isn't Mar 13 Frieda's birthday? One of my granddaughters birthday is Mar 13. Let me know about Glenn. Do you see his daughter, is it Gayanne or Gaylene. Marcia

Marcia, from what I'read, Jon Benet was sexually abused over a period of time. On the murder you are interested in, I suggest you keep putting emails for one thing. More later. Bob Marden Marcia Mondier Perguidi wrote: > Bob, > > I think you are probably right. I think that someone was angry with her and > hit her too hard resulting in her death. She may have hit her head or > something and it killed her. I think it was a family member and it is > being hushed up. I think that Mr. Ramsey's lawyer said that he took a lie > detector test and passed it, but, you never know if this is true or not. If > it is you know who that leaves. > > A murder I was interested in was in Sapulpa, Creek County. It was of one of > the Youngs, Glenn O, I think who was a lawyer. He was found dead and I > think it went down as a suicide, but, no one ever believed it was. Don't > know if anyone is still looking into it. I knew his brother John and his > daughter used to go with my brother. She said that they never believed that > he committed suicide. From what I remember of him I don't think he did > either. > > Marcia

Marcia, Have you ever been there? I think it is in Pawnee Co., but not sure. Anway, it has a small deserted center of town. There is a tall memorial in the little "downtown" area. People still live there. There are several of these "on the way to becoming ghost towns. I find these places fascinating. Would like to know more about them. Bob Marden Marcia Mondier Perguidi wrote: > So what's the story on Skidee? > > Marcia

Where did you hear that Glen O. was murdered? I've known the Young's all my life--they were neighbors --and never heard anyone say Glen's death was other than suicide. I'll have to check with some of my inside sources on this one. Wanda

Bob, I think you are probably right. I think that someone was angry with her and hit her too hard resulting in her death. She may have hit her head or something and it killed her. I think it was a family member and it is being hushed up. I think that Mr. Ramsey's lawyer said that he took a lie detector test and passed it, but, you never know if this is true or not. If it is you know who that leaves. A murder I was interested in was in Sapulpa, Creek County. It was of one of the Youngs, Glenn O, I think who was a lawyer. He was found dead and I think it went down as a suicide, but, no one ever believed it was. Don't know if anyone is still looking into it. I knew his brother John and his daughter used to go with my brother. She said that they never believed that he committed suicide. From what I remember of him I don't think he did either. Marcia

So what's the story on Skidee? Marcia

Marcia, After I sent my first reply, I realized you were referring to Colorado. I was thinking of Creek Co. when I made my first reply. I think two people were involved in the murder of Jon Benet Ramsey. Bob Marden P.S. I think it was at least one of two people, and the other at least knew about the murder and at least helped to cover it up. Robert Marden wrote: > Marcia, There are mysteries abounding in Creek and surrounding counties. For > instance, I would like to know about Skidee. Bob Marden > > Marcia Mondier Perguidi wrote: > > > Bob, > > > > I thought of her name after I wrote you. I don't think it was an outsider, > > either. > > > > Marcia

Marcia, There are mysteries abounding in Creek and surrounding counties. For instance, I would like to know about Skidee. Bob Marden Marcia Mondier Perguidi wrote: > Bob, > > I thought of her name after I wrote you. I don't think it was an outsider, > either. > > Marcia

UNSUBSCRIBE ---------- > From: Marcia Mondier Perguidi <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OKCREEK-L] GOWER, AUST, DOWDY > Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 7:03 PM > > Bob, > > I thought of her name after I wrote you. I don't think it was an outsider, > either. > > Marcia

That's right. It's strictly for genealogy unsolved mysteriious.

Bob, I thought of her name after I wrote you. I don't think it was an outsider, either. Marcia

A good site for unsolved mysteries is [email protected] At least I think that's the address. Someone know for sure? Tracey

Marcia, I'm pretty sure I know who killed Jon Benet. I couldn't prove it in court, but it wasn't an intruder. More later. Bob Marden Ps. I have been looking for a good site to discuss some of these old crime cases. Marcia Mondier Perguidi wrote: > Bob, > > I remember it, there was a web site that gave updates, but, When my modem > went out I had to reload my net program and am still finding my > bookmarks. > > There was something on one of the talk shows this week but I missed it. > > There was another incident similar to that where a little girl was abducted > in the same way, and they charged her parents, later (don't remember how > long) they were released. I don't think they ever found her either. > > What about the one in Colorado? The child model. It's early and I can't > for the life of me think of her name, Ramsey, I think. They were supposed > to come out with more information this week, but I haven't heard anything. > Of course, I have been busy this week and not much time for listening to > news. I have TV by my computer just for listening to talk shows, etc. > > There was a show this week on one of the talk shows with a psychic and she > was giving clues and a description of a murder of a young lady. They showed > the picture but, the parents didn't recognize him, except for the eyes, but > couldn't put a name. Once before this lady did > a description and a police artist did the drawing and the parents broke > down, they knew the person. I don't know how they knew him, but, I think > it was someone they knew quite well. > > I try to see these type shows when they are advertised ahead of time. > It is quite interesting to see psychics like Sylvia Brown and the one > above, (I forget her name) who work with police to find bodies and their > killer. > > Well, nice talking to you. > > Marcia

I think the list Tracey is talking about, might be: [email protected] This is the address to "Subscribe" to it. After that, it is: [email protected] Of course we may be talking about different lists....the one I have mentioned, has a lot to do with folks trying to figure out what happened to family. Linda Jenkins Wensel Researching the Pyles, Jones and Jenkins families in OK ---------- A good site for unsolved mysteries is [email protected] At least I think that's the address. Someone know for sure? Tracey

Bob, I remember it, there was a web site that gave updates, but, When my modem went out I had to reload my net program and am still finding my bookmarks. There was something on one of the talk shows this week but I missed it. There was another incident similar to that where a little girl was abducted in the same way, and they charged her parents, later (don't remember how long) they were released. I don't think they ever found her either. What about the one in Colorado? The child model. It's early and I can't for the life of me think of her name, Ramsey, I think. They were supposed to come out with more information this week, but I haven't heard anything. Of course, I have been busy this week and not much time for listening to news. I have TV by my computer just for listening to talk shows, etc. There was a show this week on one of the talk shows with a psychic and she was giving clues and a description of a murder of a young lady. They showed the picture but, the parents didn't recognize him, except for the eyes, but couldn't put a name. Once before this lady did a description and a police artist did the drawing and the parents broke down, they knew the person. I don't know how they knew him, but, I think it was someone they knew quite well. I try to see these type shows when they are advertised ahead of time. It is quite interesting to see psychics like Sylvia Brown and the one above, (I forget her name) who work with police to find bodies and their killer. Well, nice talking to you. Marcia

Bob, I'm sorry. This was supposed to have happened somewhere around, or between Bristow and Kellyville. My g-ma was born in Kellyville, and lived with her grandparents her first 4-6 years... then she moved with her parents to Bristow and grew up there. Thanks, Tracey

Marcia, Newsom told me last summer that he was going to get on the net, but I don't know if he is on yet or not. Talking about mysteries, have you heard anything about the little girl whose parents got up in the morning and their daughter was gone. Very suspicious. This happened a year or so ago, I think. I haven't ready any more on it. The parents of the girl had two other children, and these children were not touched. Bob Marden Marcia Mondier Perguidi wrote: > Bob, > > I will have to read Newsome's book. We have unsolved mysteries in CA all > the time. The most recent is the disappearance of Christine Williams of > Fort Ord. That is only about 45 miles from here. In fact,we were over by > there today. She was abducted off the Fort while walking her dog. She has > been gone for 3-4 months. Yesterday, they said something about her > parents are beginning to give up hope. I don't know how true that is...I > saw > them at the Garlic Festival and they were pretty upbeat then but it had > only been a couple of weeks when she disappeared. > > Thanks for the informtion. > > Marcia