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    1. [OKCARTER] Re: OKCARTER-D Digest V01 #182

    3. Ardmore, Carter County, Oklahoma is in Southern Oklahoma almost halfway between Dallas and Oklahoma City.

    12/22/2001 01:18:00
    1. [OKCARTER] Re: PORTER-STAFFORD

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/791.1 Message Board Post: Where is Ardmore,Carter County? Joshua Stafford Jr. was married to Sarah(Sally) Hedick in Hernando County, Florida. They moved West after Joshua Sr. died. Joshua Jr. was born to Joshua and Elizabeth Branning Stafford in Georgia. Joshua Sr. was born in Georgia, but relocated to Florida in 1817 and died in Florida in 1867. I entered this family into the Florida Pioneer Program November 2001. Joshua Sr. was born 1795.

    12/21/2001 02:44:16
    1. [OKCARTER] Re: Thomas and Ellen Reid

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/298.1104.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Thank you for your swift reply.

    12/16/2001 08:59:38
    1. [OKCARTER] Re: Thomas and Ellen Reid

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/298.1104.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for your swift reply!

    12/16/2001 08:57:34
    1. [OKCARTER] Re: Thomas and Ellen Reid

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/298.1104.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry the only Sophrina Reid I have found so far b. 1842 in Illinois, died in Ogden Utah...married 1st: Truman Root Barlow m. 2nd: William Wood Hall.

    12/16/2001 08:38:01
    1. [OKCARTER] Re: Thomas and Ellen Reid

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: COURTNEY, REID Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/298.1104.1.1 Message Board Post: I am interested in your REID family. I have Sophronia E. REID who married Robert E. Lee COURTNEY (b1861) 1888 in Cooke Co., TX. These COURTNEY lived around Love, Carter, Garvin, Murray Co. OK. Cooke Co. is just over the river in TX. Have you been able to piece together this REID clan? I am happy to share all I have. firegrl@sierratel.com

    12/16/2001 08:27:35
    1. [OKCARTER] Texas CHANCE

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CHANCE, JOHNSON, BOONE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/1464 Message Board Post: Seeking birth/death dates/places for Texas CHANCE, daughter of M.W. CHANCE. She was married 1st on 14 Oct 1887 Lamar TX to Columbus George JOHNSON b. 24 Mar 1862 d. 28 Feb 1946 Ardmore, Carter Co, OK bur Rosehill Cem ; 2nd to ? BOONE. She supposedly is buried in Rosehil Cem in same plot as C.G. JOHNSON, but unable to find cemetery record or funeral home record for her being there. Any help is greatly appreciated. Harold in New Orleans

    12/15/2001 08:34:43
    1. [OKCARTER] Rosa Belle (LOVE) MORRIS/Tom FORD

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/1463 Message Board Post: Seeking marriage date for Rosa Belle (LOVE) MORRIS and Tom FORD possibly around Ardmore, Carter Co, OK ca 1910. Belle b. 02 Dec 1888 Gordonville, Grayson Co, TX d. 24 Jul 1941 Ardmore, OK bur. Rosehill Cem. She was the daughter of William James LOVE and Hettie Jane WILLIAMS; widow of Andrew Irvin MORRIS. Tom b. 29 Nov 1882 d. 27 Sep 1970 Ardmore, OK bur Rosehill Cem. Tom adopted Belle's daughter, Ona Ruth MORRIS who married E.E. VIAN. Any help is greatly appreciated.Harold in New Orleans

    12/15/2001 08:17:18
    1. [OKCARTER] Re: Thomas and Ellen Reid

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/298.1104.1 Message Board Post: Please email me in regards to this line, looking for more information on Thomas and Atha Ellen Reid buried Hillcrest Cemetery, Ardmore, Carter Co., Oklahoma...Thomas was the son of George W. and Sarah Annie H. (Abdue) Abbue Reid, please make reference to Thomas and A. Ellen in your email so will know which line we are talking about. Thanks Kaye

    12/15/2001 01:02:49
    1. [OKCARTER] Re: Brackeen

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Brackeen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/145.199.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Wanda, I think you are right. Josiah W. born 1816 to James Brackeen his father William. Josiah is my ggrandfather I am in his daug line Nancy Mish Brackeen Swain (AKA Nanny.Nannie, Nomie) took a year to figure her death record. She was oncensus records as Nancy and Nanny. Finally aFrom a funeral home found death record listed as Nomie Swain with the right parents and right husband. It is great to find new family. Thank You Bobby H. Swain Jr. <bob477@webtv.net

    12/12/2001 04:17:08
    1. [OKCARTER] Re: Brackeen

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Brackeen, Stinnett, English, Allen, Hart Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/145.199.1.1 Message Board Post: I think your Josiah was a brother to my Alanson Brackeen. he was my gggf. He also had a Josiah. Do you know what year yours was born? Mine went from Limestone to Van Zandt co and Kaufman co, Texas. Will be glad to sway info. Granwan@aol.com

    12/12/2001 03:22:17
    1. [OKCARTER] Re: Brackeen

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Brackeen, Bracheen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/145.199.1 Message Board Post: Wanda I have Brackeens that came from Limestone county Al. Went to Tenn then to Texas then some to Okla. Josiah W. Brackeen or Bracheen marr to Margaret Elliot. Last daug. being my ggrandmother Nancy Mish Brackeen Swain aka Nanny, Nomie. Thank You Bobby H. Swain Jr. <bob477@webtv.net.

    12/12/2001 03:11:51
    1. [OKCARTER] Deward Lamb obit from Healdton Herald

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UYB.2ACE/1452.1 Message Board Post: Linda, I've sent your query to some Lamb cousins who's father and grandfathers death notice is below. Perhaps your Fred is one of the syblings? I do not have Lamb's in my direct line. As shown in the obit, the Lamb family was well thought of around the Healdton community. Where is your grandmother buried? Robin Death Notice Heart Attack is Fatal Deward Lamb Deward Lamb, member of a well known pioneer Southern Oklahoma family, died unexpectedly of a heart attack at Artesia NM Tuesday where he was visiting relatives, en route to his home at San Diego, Calif. He had visited his brother, Coy Lamb at Wilson, Friday, and had visited other relatives and friends during the weekend. His body is being returned to Healdton for funeral Saturday at 2p.m. in the first Baptist Church. His parents are buried here. His father was an early day Circuit Rider preacher in this area and the Lamb children were reared in the Healdton-Zanies community. Rev. Frank D. Sears will conduct the service Saturday. Lamb and his wife, Lillie, the former Miss Lillie Reeves, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Blackie Reeves, were visiting in the home of her sister and brother-in-law, Mr. and Mrs. Freeman Bray at Artesia. He was employed here at one time in the Abels Machine Shop. surviving are his wife, Lillie, of the home, at San Diego; tow daughters and one son, David with the U.S. Army in Germany; also a number of brothers and sisters.

    12/11/2001 12:56:09
    1. [OKCARTER] Re: Bettes Funeral Home - where was it and does anyone know where to get records?

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UYB.2ACE/317.319 Message Board Post: i have w.a. funeral record.I dont have a scanner to send it to pvme1@aol.com.

    12/11/2001 10:34:57
    1. [OKCARTER] Rootsweb info
    2. Kim Collins

    3. PRIVACY CONCERNS SPUR POLICY CHANGE BY DION NISSENBAUM Mercury News Sacramento Bureau SACRAMENTO -- One of the nation's largest online genealogy companies decided Thursday to remove from its Web site personal information about people born in California -- but only for people who ask. The company, RootsWeb. com, took the action after it was thrown into the spotlight Wednesday by California lawmakers who demonstrated how easy it is to use the Web site to glean critical information, such as date of birth and mother's maiden name, that can serve as building blocks for identity theft. The move, announced late in the day, may satisfy some of the many Californians who called the company Thursday to complain about the availability of the personal information. But it is unlikely to quell the broader concerns because experience suggests that only a relatively small number of people will take the initiative to request that RootsWeb.com delete their data. And even if the company removed all 24 million California birth records posted on its site, that would not address the fundamental problem still facing lawmakers: Selling the information was -- and is -- legal. The state of California sells both birth and death records of millions of residents and makes them available on CD-ROM for as much as $900. Along with the birth records, RootsWeb.com also contains a database that lists more than 9 million death records in California. Many of the listings include a Social Security number, the most prized piece of information for identity thieves. ``Clearly this is a situation where all the residents of California have now been exposed to a new risk of identity theft,'' said Chris Hoofnagle, legal counsel for the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington, D.C. ``This should raise alarms.'' After reading about RootsWeb.com in the Mercury News, concerned Californians contacted the company and asked to have their personal information taken offline. Initially, some were rebuffed and told the data was public information. But after an executive meeting Thursday, company officials decided to remove the names of any Californians who ask. ``The mission of our company is to create places to help people reconnect with their families,'' said Craig Sherman, the chief marketing and revenue officer of MyFamily.com Inc., the parent company of RootsWeb.com. ``We're not in any way doing anything except helping our customers and if a customer is concerned about it, it doesn't do any good to leave them up on the site.'' Sharon O'Mara Hartman, who works for a Bay Area branding firm, was among those who asked the company to remove her name. ``Anything that has personal information on it is infringing on my privacy,'' she said. ``Coming across something like this was disturbing.'' MyFamily.com is one of the largest and oldest genealogy sites on the Internet and gets more than 5 million visitors a month. One other state, Texas, has provided similar information to RootsWeb. Privacy and identity theft have new meaning in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks. All 19 men suspected of taking part in the deadly hijackings had Social Security numbers and only five were obtained legally. Some got fake IDs in Florida and Virginia. Earlier this month, Congress renewed a debate about the federal government's sale of a massive database of deaths in America. The information includes names, addresses, dates of birth, dates of death and Social Security numbers. California has made birth and death records available on CD-ROM for about two years. It is one of the few states in the nation to make birth certificates available to anyone who asks. Now, state lawmakers are taking another look at whether to place tighter constraints on release of such information. State Sen. Jackie Speier, D-San Mateo, said she plans to introduce legislation in the coming months to restrict access to state birth records. But some are concerned that the state may be moving to fix a problem that doesn't really exist. Terry Francke, general counsel of the California First Amendment Coalition, said people should be wary of too many restrictions on public information unless there is strong evidence that the Web site has been used in a crime. ``If we're going to start stripping not only the Internet, but public records, of information that others have found useful for generations on the basis that it might make some mischief or crime easier, then we're going to have a very different society before we realize it,'' he said. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Contact Dion Nissenbaum at dnissenbaum@sjmercury.com or (916) 441-4603. Kim http://www.arbuckleonline.com/users/2buckets

    11/30/2001 03:53:37
    1. [OKCARTER] Virus

    3. From: _e.h.yarbrough@worldnet.att.net (E YARBROUGH) I have noticed that all the messages containing the virus has an underline _ as the first character in the address. So if I get one like that, I don't even worry about who it is. I just delete without even looking at the message. Bud Caudle

    11/27/2001 05:31:48
    1. [OKCARTER] Virus

    3. From: _e.h.yarbrough@worldnet.att.net (E YARBROUGH) I have noticed that all the messages containing the virus has an underline _ as the first character in the address. So if I get one like that, I don't even worry about who it is. I just delete without even looking at the message. Bud Caudle

    11/27/2001 05:28:14
    1. [OKCARTER] Re: Chargis, Ok information?

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/1460.1 Message Board Post: The name is Chagris, and it was in western Carter county, 4 miles northwest of Healdton. A post office from April 25, 1896 to February 27, 1909- The Carter County courthouse may be able to help, their records start before the turn of the century. 580-223-3803, its worth a call. Luck! Linda-

    11/26/2001 01:59:57
    1. [OKCARTER] Prater/Aulds

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/1462 Message Board Post: Holly Prater married Mahalia Catherine Aulds in Montegue county, Texas around 1870 maybe later (from memory) I remember there being some more Praters in the area. between 1910-or so you can locate Holly and Mahalia in or around Perry County, OK. Her sister, my gg grandmother lived there. I believe Holly and Mahalia area buried in Dixie Cem. near Ringling, Ok. hope I helped Carolyn

    11/25/2001 12:09:54
    1. [OKCARTER] Re: Is there a Hewett in Carter County with an oil field in 1920??

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UYB.2ACE/1449.3 Message Board Post: Just thought I would help a little since I grew up in the area during the 50's. Hewett is located between Wilson and Lone Grove - closer to Wilson. Today the only thing remaining is the Cemetary and various homes scattered throughout the area. The entire area is/was oil country - oil pumps are everywhere- the deeper you go into the woods the thicker the pumps. There were also refineries (2) in this area also. probably about 1900-20 - one in Wilson and the other Hewett. Mr. John Cannon has been the most informative - even for me. Hope I helped Carolyn

    11/25/2001 12:02:34