I agree with the 30 day time limit for contacting a cc. I have read this suggested policy and the comments that it has spawned. As you can see by the date, I'm almost beyond my 30 days just to respond! But it is important to consider that the 30 days starts when the state coordinator begins to try to contact the cc. The assumption is that a significant amount of time has already passed since the cc has contributed to any discussion or updated their county site. Also, this original message really didn't discuss any obligation the cc would have to inform people when they will be "out of pocket" for a time. I would hate to see this become a requirement. I travel extensively and I'm not able to sign on and update everyone on my whereabouts. We probably weren't considering making this a requirement (someone just mentioned it in their response comments), but lets not go there please. Lookin' good so far, Scott Campbell Coordinating Tillman OK USGenWeb Project Researching Pollard Lambert White Campbell Gore Keyes -----Original Message----- From: Marti Graham <marti2@pipeline.com> To: OK-IT-L@rootsweb.com <OK-IT-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, May 29, 1998 10:05 PM Subject: [OK-IT-L] Need input 4 OKGenWeb CC standards >Hi group :) > >On the heels of the message about missing cc's, we need to set a standard >in our state concerning missing cc's and placing their counties for >adoption. The following has been suggested - input and opinions please. > >> Maybe there should be a standing rule about absentee's from the OKGenWeb. >> If a county coordinator cannot be reached within 30 days, then the rule >> would be that the county would be put up for adoption. > >IMHO, 30 days is sufficient for a cc to contact either myself or Megan and >let us know they are experiencing a problem. My thinking is - three >messages [sent weekly] to the cc that go unanswered should be followed up >by a phone call the fourth week IF there is still have no response. IF no >contact can be made with reasonable effort, then the county should be >placed for adoption. > >Next thought - if the cc makes contact after the county has been placed for >adoption and the county has been adopted that county remains with the new >cc. > >- anyone - thoughts or opinions? > >Marti > >

Are we still unable to upload or update are web sites on roots web, I just rec some new information that my brother was going to toss can you believe that anyway I wanted to update the site is that possible?? Pauline -- **************************************** Pauline [Neeley] Phelps Bakersfield CA 93304 ============================================== Mailing List owner for NEELEY-L@ROOTSWEB.COM Neeley Web Site http://www.genweb.net/~neeley/ Washita Co.OK URL http://www.rootsweb.com/~okwashit/ ============================================== Mail list FOUNTAINE-l@rootsweb.com Carter-Dalbey-Tucker, Critchfields-Kemper,Fountain/Fontaine, http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/5716/index.html *****************************************

Everyone -- as you'll read below Brian and Karen are doing everything possible to keep the system going while making the changes. Don't worry so about your counters and update problems - they are being disabled from time to time to allow us and visitors access to our actual pages during prime time and while they work on the system. I'd prefer the visitor actually be able to get to the pages - wouldn't you? Marti >Brian Leverich wrote: > -- Your message was: (from "Brian Leverich") > > > We obviously still have stability problems on the old Web server. > > I'm in the process of replacing all the adapter boards, with > > especial prejudice concerning the SCSI disk controller. > > > > Regardless of whether I can get the old server to stay up, we'll > > have the new server online within the next couple of days. That > > should fix the problem in a permanent sense. -B > > ------------------ > > The new server first booted on Friday night, and after working on it > all day Saturday we attempted to bring it online Saturday night when > the old server crashed. > > And we failed. > > Failed because it turned out we had to do an OS upgrade on the new > server to handle some of its hardware. > > So last night we did some additional tunes on the old server, and > we're still limping on it. Server-side includes are still disabled. > > Today I've done the OS upgrade on the new server, and everything > seems to be working great. Barring crashes of the old server, we > will do a planned upgrade to the new server tomorrow (Monday) > morning. > > After that you can expect some anomalies in our operations, because > major OS upgrades always introduce some interesting bugs. > Nonetheless, we expect to be returning to normal operations by > tomorrow evening. > > BTW, folks may find it easier to FTP to RootsWeb after the upgrade. > While I was configuring the OS kernel, I found a parameter setting > that might have been negatively affecting how some FTP clients > interact with RootsWeb. > > Anyway, sorry for the problems. The old server ran rock solid for > nine months and then, all of the sudden, it seems to have developed > a lot of personality. I expect some component besides the disk I > pulled is failing -- I'll fault isolate the problem after the > machine is offline. -B > > -- > Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L > RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ > P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com

Please check the following to be sure your name is on the list - one vote per cc -- the number of counties you host doesn't count this time - so all your counties aren't listed - just one. :) OKGenWeb Voters List http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgwcens/election/oklahoma.htm Other sites pertaining to the upcoming elections - The USGenWeb Project Official Announcements http://www.usgenweb.org/official/official.html The USGenWeb Project By-Laws Draft/Work in Progess http://www.usgenweb.org/official/bylaws.html Nominations for the Upcoming Elections http://www.ccgnv.net/beembranches/Elections/nominati.htm submit nominations to nominate@usgenweb.org Nomination will be received during the first two weeks of June. Profiles/bios of candidates will be posted on or before voting begins. Elections will be held during the period, July 1-July 31. Who's Who in The USGenWeb Project [Current] http://www.usgenweb.org/about/whoswho.html The USGenWeb Project [also has all the above links] http://www.usgenweb.org/ -- Marti Graham, OKGenWeb State Coordinator Box 817, Nicoma Park, OK 73066 405-769-5888 [OKC area] email: marti@myfamily.org or marti2@pipeline.com ICQ# 10073531 * - * AOL Messenger: OKGenWeb1

Hi group - Considering the situation at RootsWeb now might be a perfect time to remind everyone how they are funded and that the need for new/better equipment never ends... http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html to learn about becoming a RootsWeb member/sponsor. They more $ they receive the more equipment he can buy and the better our sites hosted by RootsWeb can become. >Brian Leverich wrote: > > The good news is that the failing drive is now out of the machine, > > and the disks are organized such that we can easily move them to a > > newer and faster machine. > > > > The bad news is that the old server is still overloaded. We had > > hoped the new drives (which are much faster than the old drive) > > would have helped reduce the load on the server, but we still have > > capacity problems. > > We obviously still have stability problems on the old Web server. > I'm in the process of replacing all the adapter boards, with > especial prejudice concerning the SCSI disk controller. > > Regardless of whether I can get the old server to stay up, we'll > have the new server online within the next couple of days. That > should fix the problem in a permanent sense. -B > > -- > Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L > RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ > P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com

I will be unavailable from 6/13/98 to 6/29/98. megan -- Megan Zurawicz, National Coordinator USGenWeb pigolit@ix.netcom.com * cochonnet@aol.com

Brian Leverich wrote: > > > Tomorrow morning I will down the old server and move the still > > functional user disks to the new server. The server will probably > > appear to "yo-yo" up and down as we transition from the old to the > > new box. > > I'm actually not doing the repair today (Tuesday). In view of a > number of technical issues, we're totally rebuilding the server from > the case up with the fastest parts we can buy. > > If I can get the proper parts on site by then, I will probably be > doing maintenance on the old server tomorrow (Wednesday) morning, > and that work *may* allow us to return to normal (so far as the > users can tell) operations then. > > If all goes well, we'll be cutting over onto the new server on > Thursday morning. Thursday will probably be a little rocky as we > fight fires and fix the odd bug. > > I think we'll be completely back to normal and on a much faster > server by this weekend. > > Sorry for the mess. And does anyone have any virtual java? Have > been running on minimal sleep for a few days, and probably have to > keep doing that for a few more days ... ): -B > > -- > Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L > RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ > P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 leverich@rootsweb.com

Hi group - I'm running a little late :) LaRae Halsey Brooks TimeTrvlrO@aol.com is our newest cc to put her pages on line this past Sunday The Unassigned Lands of Oklahoma Territory http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/9448 Please make her welcome and stop by her page for a visit - another great job - thanks LaRae. Marti

Don has not yet checked in on the Missouri roll call, either, very odd for him. megan Marti Graham wrote: > > FOURTH REQUEST!! 5-29-98 > THIRD REQUEST!! 5-21-98 > SECOND REQUEST!! 5-15-98 > FIRST REQUEST!! 5-06-98 > > I still need to hear from these cc's - > your mailing address and phone number requested - for emergency purposes - > information NOT to be shared with anyone. > > TERRI MOORE - Cherokee, Osage & Sequoyah Co. > PAT SMITH - Latimer Co. > JOYCE HAYWARD - Marshall Co. > ROBERT FENDER - Pawnee Co. > DON WRIGHT - Wagoner Co. > > -- > Marti Graham, OKGenWeb State Coordinator > Box 817, Nicoma Park, OK 73066 405-769-5888 [OKC area] > email: marti@myfamily.org or marti2@pipeline.com > ICQ# 10073531 * - * AOL Messenger: OKGenWeb1 > _______________________________________________________________________ > http://www.usgenweb.org/ok OKGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~itgenweb OK/ITGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcreek/creek.htm OK Creek Co. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okleflor/leflore.htm OK LeFlore Co. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okoklaho/okoklaho.htm OK Oklahoma Co. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~arsebast/sebast.htm AR Sebastian Co. > http://www.geocities.com/heartland/flats/6878 Genie Angels > http://www.geocities.com/heartland/plains/8574 ROMINE Family -- Megan Zurawicz, National Coordinator USGenWeb pigolit@ix.netcom.com * cochonnet@aol.com

Susan---phrase it carefully, please. Using such goodies as 411 and switchboard on the net, a person can likely enter your email address and get your house address; you don't want to mix that with a public statement that nobody's home for the next X weeks. It works to say "I won't be available from -- to --"...let 'em wonder if that means the whole family is going to be on vacation, or just you on a business trip, or the kid's in the hospital for surgery, so you're home but offline.<G> megan OklaKiddo@aol.com wrote: > > I agree with the proposed policy. I will be on vacation in July and intend to > list on my index page that I will be gone those dates so folks will know if > nothing changes on the page. (I look forward to vacation, but oh those posts > when I get back!!!) > > Susan -- Megan Zurawicz, National Coordinator USGenWeb pigolit@ix.netcom.com * cochonnet@aol.com

Nope--probably should be, but isn't, as far as set amount of time goes. megan Mike Taylor wrote: > > As I told Marty earlier - I agree with the 30 day rule. Publish the rules > on the OK page, and then let everyone know the rules. Be kind to the 'old' > coordinators though (guess I qualify here!). There could have been a death > in the family, computer blew a fuse, lost job - can't pay for connection, or > lot's of other reasons that someone goes offline without being able to > contact someone. Even a minute of volunteered time is appreciated! Is > there a national policy in this regard? > > Mike Taylor 20018 Doherty Circle, Katy TX 77449 1-281-578-9214 > > Http://www.wl.net/mike_in_katy/mikeshouse.htm <--My homepage > Http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpontot/pontotoc.htm <--The page I host for the > OKGenWeb > Http://www.wl.net/mike_in_katy/portraits/portraits.htm <-- My daughter's > page (she is a Graphics Artist and does portrait's) > Mailto:mjtaylor@amoco.com <-- My office email address -- Megan Zurawicz, National Coordinator USGenWeb pigolit@ix.netcom.com * cochonnet@aol.com

I agree with Marti, and Mike. We need to do something, but let's try to be nice to the volunteers. I know that one time, I lost my computer, and did not know what was going on or how to contact anyone. Most of that problem I think is taken care of now, with the address and phone number thing. I suppose that there will be exceptions for those that get in touch, and let Marti know that there is some sort of problem. Ann

I agree with the proposed policy. I will be on vacation in July and intend to list on my index page that I will be gone those dates so folks will know if nothing changes on the page. (I look forward to vacation, but oh those posts when I get back!!!) Susan

As I told Marty earlier - I agree with the 30 day rule. Publish the rules on the OK page, and then let everyone know the rules. Be kind to the 'old' coordinators though (guess I qualify here!). There could have been a death in the family, computer blew a fuse, lost job - can't pay for connection, or lot's of other reasons that someone goes offline without being able to contact someone. Even a minute of volunteered time is appreciated! Is there a national policy in this regard? Mike Taylor 20018 Doherty Circle, Katy TX 77449 1-281-578-9214 Http://www.wl.net/mike_in_katy/mikeshouse.htm <--My homepage Http://www.rootsweb.com/~okpontot/pontotoc.htm <--The page I host for the OKGenWeb Http://www.wl.net/mike_in_katy/portraits/portraits.htm <-- My daughter's page (she is a Graphics Artist and does portrait's) Mailto:mjtaylor@amoco.com <-- My office email address

Hi Marti, That sounds like a fair way to handle it. Got my vote Ethel

> Hi Marti, I agree with you whole-heartedly. So you have my "Vote" Kathy -- Kathy Welch Heidel mailto:kheidel@tri.net >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Clay Co., KS: http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/clay/index.html Dickinson Co., KS: http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/dickinso/index.html Washington Co., KS: http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/washingt/index.html Kansas in the Civil War: http://skyways.lib.ks.us/kansas/genweb/civilwar/index.html Missouri in the Civil War: http://www.tri.net/~kheidel/mowar/index.html The Potawatomi Tribe Of Oklahoma: http://www.tri.net/~kheidel/nativeamer/index.html ===================================================================== Callahan, Causey, Devlin, Fair, Hiner, Holloway, McCrea, Ray, Reddick, Walker, Welch, Wofford,

I whlelheartedly agree that your suggested rules are more than reasonable. Best I recall, Pat Smith is Capt. Pat? If so, I expect you can write that one off. I fall a little behind from time to time, but I think even I can get an email answer off in a month's time! Go for it - put those counties up for adoption and see if they can find a good home. Linnie Howell http://www.telepath.com/sysjer http://www.rootsweb.com/~okhaskel http://www.rootsweb.com/~iafayett http://www.rootsweb.com/~arpolk Marti Graham wrote: > Hi group :) > > On the heels of the message about missing cc's, we need to set a standard > in our state concerning missing cc's and placing their counties for > adoption. The following has been suggested - input and opinions please. > > > Maybe there should be a standing rule about absentee's from the OKGenWeb. > > If a county coordinator cannot be reached within 30 days, then the rule > > would be that the county would be put up for adoption. > > IMHO, 30 days is sufficient for a cc to contact either myself or Megan and > let us know they are experiencing a problem. My thinking is - three > messages [sent weekly] to the cc that go unanswered should be followed up > by a phone call the fourth week IF there is still have no response. IF no > contact can be made with reasonable effort, then the county should be > placed for adoption. > > Next thought - if the cc makes contact after the county has been placed for > adoption and the county has been adopted that county remains with the new > cc. > > - anyone - thoughts or opinions? > > Marti

On Fri, 29 May 1998, Marti Graham wrote: > Hi group :) > > On the heels of the message about missing cc's, we need to set a standard > in our state concerning missing cc's and placing their counties for > adoption. The following has been suggested - input and opinions please. > > > Maybe there should be a standing rule about absentee's from the OKGenWeb. > > If a county coordinator cannot be reached within 30 days, then the rule > > would be that the county would be put up for adoption. > > IMHO, 30 days is sufficient for a cc to contact either myself or Megan and > let us know they are experiencing a problem. My thinking is - three > messages [sent weekly] to the cc that go unanswered should be followed up > by a phone call the fourth week IF there is still have no response. IF no > contact can be made with reasonable effort, then the county should be > placed for adoption. > > Next thought - if the cc makes contact after the county has been placed for > adoption and the county has been adopted that county remains with the new > cc. > > - anyone - thoughts or opinions? > It all sounds good to me. dmorgan@efn.org --- David W. Morgan --- Honolulu Hawaii Barber Family ---- http://members.xoom.com/barberfamily/ OKGenWeb -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcotton/cotton.htm OKGenWeb -- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okjeffer/index.html OKGenWeb --- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okjohnst/index.htm OKGenWeb --- http://www.rootsweb.com/~okmurray/index.htm Email Congress http://www.efn.org/~dmorgan/congress.html

I agree with the reasonable effort to contact the cc. I also think that the cc should let Marti or Megan know when they expect to be away for some period of time. I believe this to be a courtesy that only takes less than five minutes to accomplish and would eliminate any hard feelings from a cc that comes back to find that their web page is with someone else. I also would agree that when it is adopted then it is adopted, period. Harold D. Massey St. Louis, MO hmassey@primary.net Marti Graham wrote: > Hi group :) > > On the heels of the message about missing cc's, we need to set a standard > in our state concerning missing cc's and placing their counties for > adoption. The following has been suggested - input and opinions please. > > > Maybe there should be a standing rule about absentee's from the OKGenWeb. > > If a county coordinator cannot be reached within 30 days, then the rule > > would be that the county would be put up for adoption. > > IMHO, 30 days is sufficient for a cc to contact either myself or Megan and > let us know they are experiencing a problem. My thinking is - three > messages [sent weekly] to the cc that go unanswered should be followed up > by a phone call the fourth week IF there is still have no response. IF no > contact can be made with reasonable effort, then the county should be > placed for adoption. > > Next thought - if the cc makes contact after the county has been placed for > adoption and the county has been adopted that county remains with the new > cc. > > - anyone - thoughts or opinions? > > Marti

FOURTH REQUEST!! 5-29-98 THIRD REQUEST!! 5-21-98 SECOND REQUEST!! 5-15-98 FIRST REQUEST!! 5-06-98 I still need to hear from these cc's - your mailing address and phone number requested - for emergency purposes - information NOT to be shared with anyone. TERRI MOORE - Cherokee, Osage & Sequoyah Co. PAT SMITH - Latimer Co. JOYCE HAYWARD - Marshall Co. ROBERT FENDER - Pawnee Co. DON WRIGHT - Wagoner Co. -- Marti Graham, OKGenWeb State Coordinator Box 817, Nicoma Park, OK 73066 405-769-5888 [OKC area] email: marti@myfamily.org or marti2@pipeline.com ICQ# 10073531 * - * AOL Messenger: OKGenWeb1 _______________________________________________________________________ http://www.usgenweb.org/ok OKGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~itgenweb OK/ITGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcreek/creek.htm OK Creek Co. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okleflor/leflore.htm OK LeFlore Co. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okoklaho/okoklaho.htm OK Oklahoma Co. http://www.rootsweb.com/~arsebast/sebast.htm AR Sebastian Co. http://www.geocities.com/heartland/flats/6878 Genie Angels http://www.geocities.com/heartland/plains/8574 ROMINE Family