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    1. [OK-CEM] Placing Queries
    2. Frederick Dittmar
    3. Pastor Joe, You have placed your query on the correct page. "OKLAHOMA CEMETERIES" This page is monitored by individuals in all parts of the state and out of state who have books and records at hand which they can look up a query like yours. Some have access, like myself, on a weekly basis or more often if a library is closer where they can do look ups. The page is also monitored by some Genealogical Societies but they tend not to answer unless a question is put directly to them. They run on a tight budget, xeroxing and postage really add up over a period of time. They would love to research but a donation should be offered. They can't solicit on the page as it's a free page. I pocket queries from 3 mail list that I"m on and take them to the Oklahoma Historical Library on my weekly trip, 34 miles, and while waiting for a reader I'll look up request in the County History and Cemetery Books. I don't always get a chance to look up queries so unless I'm successful I usually don't write and then sometimes someone else has answered the question. Fred Frederick Dittmar http://www.dittmar.net/fred List Administrator: [email protected] [email protected] Genealogical Assistant & Board Member Oklahoma Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgs

    02/20/2001 12:55:09
    1. Re: [OK-CEM] Placing Queries
    2. carol morse
    3. I know my gr-grandmother is buried in Oklahoma but I have not been able to locate a death certificate or place of burial. The story is a mystery and she may never be found. Here is what I know: Mary Elizabeth ELLIS, born 21 April 1867 in Tishomingo Co., Miss. Married John L. BYRNE1883, Grayson Co., TX; divorced Byrne and married George ISAACS, 1891 in El Reno, Canadian Co., OK. Isaacs was sentenced to life in prison at Huntsville for his involvement with the Doolin Gang in the murder of Hemphill Sheriff McGee in 1894 during a train robbery. Isaacs later escaped and no more information has been found on his whereabouts or date of death. Mary Elizabeth ISAACS, aka "Lizzie", was given a life sentence on February 11, 1898 as an accessory to the murder of a man named Elder in 1896 in Chickasha along with her brother, John Ellis. The sentence was later overturned due to public outcry and sympathy for Lizzie. Lizzie ISAACS, claiming widow status, with her 3 sons, Wiley BYRNE, Richard ISAACS, and Roy ISAACS, were in the Chickasha, Grady County 1900 census. Lizzie ISAACS, with her 2 sons, Richard and Roy, were found in the Clinton, Custer Co., 1910 census. Somewhere between 1912 and 1916, Mary Elizabeth "Lizzie" Ellis Byrne Isaacs was living with her sisters ex-husband, Tom N. SPARKS. No marriage certificate has been found. Lizzie caught Tom with another woman and burned his barn down. Tom shot and killed Lizzie the next day. Lizzie's 2 sons (by George Isaacs) then shot and killed Tom Sparks as he was being led up/down the courthouse steps to/from his arraignment for murder of Lizzie. The boys were never charged. The Ellis family Bible only has a short notation: Lizzie died January the 4 (and the year is illegible) but appears to be either 1914 or 1916. The family would never speak of her again until after the death of both her parents. I have exhausted the newspaper files that are available in Carter Co. and found no mention of the barn-burning or murders. I have never had an opportunity to explore larger newspapers so any help would be appreciated so much. Carol in Okla Always looking for cousins: Adkisons,Butlers,Byrne,Ellis,Haney,Isaacs,Kincannon,Love,Morgan,Morse,Nelson ,Patterson,Payne,Weir

    02/20/2001 03:14:28
    1. Re: [OK-CEM] Placing Queries
    2. Mahlon Erickson
    3. I believe a Custer County Cemetery book was published in 1994. Canadian County Cemeteries are recorded in several volumes. These books are available for research at the Historical Society Library (OHS) in Oklahoma City. Don't know if this will help you, but good luck! Mahlon Erickson ----- Original Message ----- From: "carol morse" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [OK-CEM] Placing Queries > I know my gr-grandmother is buried in Oklahoma but I have not been able to > locate a death certificate or place of burial. The story is a mystery and > she may never be found. Here is what I know: > Mary Elizabeth ELLIS, born 21 April 1867 in Tishomingo Co., Miss. Married > John L. BYRNE1883, Grayson Co., TX; divorced Byrne and married George > ISAACS, 1891 in El Reno, Canadian Co., OK. Isaacs was sentenced to life in > prison at Huntsville for his involvement with the Doolin Gang in the murder > of Hemphill Sheriff McGee in 1894 during a train robbery. Isaacs later > escaped and no more information has been found on his whereabouts or date of > death. Mary Elizabeth ISAACS, aka "Lizzie", was given a life sentence on > February 11, 1898 as an accessory to the murder of a man named Elder in 1896 > in Chickasha along with her brother, John Ellis. The sentence was later > overturned due to public outcry and sympathy for Lizzie. > Lizzie ISAACS, claiming widow status, with her 3 sons, Wiley BYRNE, Richard > ISAACS, and Roy ISAACS, were in the Chickasha, Grady County 1900 census. > Lizzie ISAACS, with her 2 sons, Richard and Roy, were found in the Clinton, > Custer Co., 1910 census. Somewhere between 1912 and 1916, Mary Elizabeth > "Lizzie" Ellis Byrne Isaacs was living with her sisters ex-husband, Tom N. > SPARKS. No marriage certificate has been found. Lizzie caught Tom with > another woman and burned his barn down. Tom shot and killed Lizzie the next > day. Lizzie's 2 sons (by George Isaacs) then shot and killed Tom Sparks as > he was being led up/down the courthouse steps to/from his arraignment for > murder of Lizzie. The boys were never charged. The Ellis family Bible only > has a short notation: Lizzie died January the 4 (and the year is illegible) > but appears to be either 1914 or 1916. The family would never speak of her > again until after the death of both her parents. I have exhausted the > newspaper files that are available in Carter Co. and found no mention of the > barn-burning or murders. I have never had an opportunity to explore larger > newspapers so any help would be appreciated so much. > > Carol in Okla > Always looking for cousins: > Adkisons,Butlers,Byrne,Ellis,Haney,Isaacs,Kincannon,Love,Morgan,Morse,Nelson > ,Patterson,Payne,Weir > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > >

    02/20/2001 03:17:42
    1. Re: [OK-CEM] Placing Queries
    2. cwhite
    3. Carol, Have you tried http://www.oklahombres.org to find information? It is amazing at the reliable information they have amassed about outlaws and lawmen of Oklahoma. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "carol morse" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [OK-CEM] Placing Queries I know my gr-grandmother is buried in Oklahoma but I have not been able to locate a death certificate or place of burial. The story is a mystery and she may never be found. Here is what I know: Mary Elizabeth ELLIS, born 21 April 1867 in Tishomingo Co., Miss. Married John L. BYRNE1883, Grayson Co., TX; divorced Byrne and married George ISAACS, 1891 in El Reno, Canadian Co., OK. Isaacs was sentenced to life in prison at Huntsville for his involvement with the Doolin Gang in the murder of Hemphill Sheriff McGee in 1894 during a train robbery. Isaacs later escaped and no more information has been found on his whereabouts or date of death. Mary Elizabeth ISAACS, aka "Lizzie", was given a life sentence on February 11, 1898 as an accessory to the murder of a man named Elder in 1896 in Chickasha along with her brother, John Ellis. The sentence was later overturned due to public outcry and sympathy for Lizzie. Lizzie ISAACS, claiming widow status, with her 3 sons, Wiley BYRNE, Richard ISAACS, and Roy ISAACS, were in the Chickasha, Grady County 1900 census. Lizzie ISAACS, with her 2 sons, Richard and Roy, were found in the Clinton, Custer Co., 1910 census. Somewhere between 1912 and 1916, Mary Elizabeth "Lizzie" Ellis Byrne Isaacs was living with her sisters ex-husband, Tom N. SPARKS. No marriage certificate has been found. Lizzie caught Tom with another woman and burned his barn down. Tom shot and killed Lizzie the next day. Lizzie's 2 sons (by George Isaacs) then shot and killed Tom Sparks as he was being led up/down the courthouse steps to/from his arraignment for murder of Lizzie. The boys were never charged. The Ellis family Bible only has a short notation: Lizzie died January the 4 (and the year is illegible) but appears to be either 1914 or 1916. The family would never speak of her again until after the death of both her parents. I have exhausted the newspaper files that are available in Carter Co. and found no mention of the barn-burning or murders. I have never had an opportunity to explore larger newspapers so any help would be appreciated so much. Carol in Okla Always looking for cousins: Adkisons,Butlers,Byrne,Ellis,Haney,Isaacs,Kincannon,Love,Morgan,Morse,Nelson ,Patterson,Payne,Weir ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm ============================== Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

    02/20/2001 06:38:25