Collene, If it's not a ' big deal' as you say, then drop it! If you are not happy with a site, don't use it but you do not need to complain online. We ALL are busy people including the retired with responsibilities but yet find time to do what we enjoy...family research. Personally I am getting very tired of hearing everyone gripe about something online. These sites are for sharing information, not to air all your complaints. They have been very helpful to my research and if they were not, I would simply unsubscribe without any further comment. Can you not do the same??? Ann Weber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Collene Pearce" <collene@jump.net> To: <OK-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: Re: OK FGS website, was: Re: [OK-CEM] Oklahoma Research > > "kathleenburnett@earthlink.net" wrote: > > Collene first contacted me with dissatisfaction with the FGS site because > she could not or did not want to type in her information > > This is perfectly true. I seem to remember saying that the > design of the site made it useful only for people who have > all the time in the world -- or something similar. I believe > I suggested that when you were advertising the site, it would > be beneficial if you'd let people know, up front, that they > would need to re-enter all their FGS data, in order to use it. > > I believe, when you objected to that, I said something about the fact > that I'm very willing to share gene. data, which may or may not be > useful to others and MIGHT be viewed sometime, but not when it takes > an extrodinary amount of time away from my research, my job, my > homelife, > my other hobbies and interests. > I believe I told you there was no point in chastizing me for my > opinion. I, for one, will simply not be using your sight, but I'm > sure there are many, who have the time and priority, who will. > > I believe I implied that it was not necessary to create a vendetta, > simply because I don't like or approve of your site or the manner in > which you advertise it. It really is NOT that big an issue. > > >and wanted us to redesign the site so all she and other researchers > >would have to do is upload. > > I NEVER asked you to redesign the site for me or anyone else. > I didn't even suggest it. However, I did tell you, in my > professional opinion, that NOT designing it so that people could > upload, is basically poor design. > > I also noted that I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, by > assuming you did not have the expertise to create a more robust site > and so were doing the best you could, with the resources and expertise > you had. So, with that in mind, I believe I reiterated that you should > let people know, so they would not be disappointed, as I had been > and as the other "visitors", who had contacted me about it, were. > > And I believe I reiterated that it was NOT a crime to lack the > expertise to create (what I consider) a universally useful website, > so it makes no sense (to me) to be so defensive about it. The site > is not something I can use, or that many people, can use, but there > are many people who will love it and use it. It's not necessary > for EVERYONE to like it. It's not a reflection on you, so it > makes no sense for you to take it so personally. > > To those who want to use it -- I applaud you. To those who don't, > so what. To me, it's that simple and really has nothing to do > with the author. I would suggest a bit more data be included, > in the advertising of the site. Some of us, who have full time > jobs, multiple hobbies and responsibilities, were very disappointed, > once we visited the site. > > Now, add to this, the fact that around the same time this site was > instroduced, some of the existing OK county sites were "re-adopte" > and much of the data we had uploaded to those sites was removed. > I'm just a bit more selective in where I spend my time, sharing data, > than I have been in the past. > > Now -- since it was suggested in your earlier messages -- > Please do not assume we, who are short of time, would browse > the site to use the info, without taking the time to add our own > data. I don't think that would be at all fair (kind of like > "now, who will eat this porridge"), so for me, personally, I > promise, until I have time to reenter all my FGS data manually, > I won't look at any of the existing data on your site. So, > please do not worry about that. > > :-) > acp > ------- > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Oklahoma Cemetery list, use > OK-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or OK-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if > you are on the Digest list. > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I certainly hope this author is not ORDERING me to do anything. That would really irritate me. I'm not inthe military and to my knowledge, we don't yet live in a police state. I'd really not appreciate it if someone actually thought they were entitled to tell me, or any other list member what to do. I don't know who the "everyone" is/are who gripe about things "online". Perhaps I've missed a lot of the recent posts to this mailing list. I don't remember anyone griping about the FGS or other websites. As for the real issue here. I told the person who posted her original website ad, weeks ago, that if she persisted in advertising the site, without warning peope that you would need to re-enter FGS data, I would "call her on it". In case there was any doubt, THAT is what occurred. No one was complaining about the functionality of the website; simply stating HOW it functioned. Those of us who do not have the time, will simply not use it. However, it's a shame to waste the valuable time of gene. researchers, by not warning them, ahead of time. IMHO, that is now done, so this matter should be at an end. (unless you've got some more "orders" for some of us) :-) acp PS -- you don't unsub from the FGS website, so I can't imagine what that comment meant. You can unsub from mailing lists and newsgroups, though. --------- Ann Weber wrote: > > Collene, > > If it's not a ' big deal' as you say, then drop it! If you are not happy > with a site, don't use it but you do not need to complain online. We ALL are > busy people including the retired with responsibilities but yet find time to > do what we enjoy...family research. > Personally I am getting very tired of hearing everyone gripe about something > online. These sites are for sharing information, not to air all your > complaints. They have been very helpful to my research and if they were not, > I would simply unsubscribe without any further comment. Can you not do the > same??? > Ann Weber > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Collene Pearce" <collene@jump.net> > To: <OK-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:05 PM > Subject: Re: OK FGS website, was: Re: [OK-CEM] Oklahoma Research > > > > > "kathleenburnett@earthlink.net" wrote: > > > Collene first contacted me with dissatisfaction with the FGS site > because > she could not or did not want to type in her information > > > > This is perfectly true. I seem to remember saying that the > > design of the site made it useful only for people who have > > all the time in the world -- or something similar. I believe > > I suggested that when you were advertising the site, it would > > be beneficial if you'd let people know, up front, that they > > would need to re-enter all their FGS data, in order to use it. > > > > I believe, when you objected to that, I said something about the fact > > that I'm very willing to share gene. data, which may or may not be > > useful to others and MIGHT be viewed sometime, but not when it takes > > an extrodinary amount of time away from my research, my job, my > > homelife, > > my other hobbies and interests. > > I believe I told you there was no point in chastizing me for my > > opinion. I, for one, will simply not be using your sight, but I'm > > sure there are many, who have the time and priority, who will. > > > > I believe I implied that it was not necessary to create a vendetta, > > simply because I don't like or approve of your site or the manner in > > which you advertise it. It really is NOT that big an issue. > > > > >and wanted us to redesign the site so all she and other researchers > > >would have to do is upload. > > > > I NEVER asked you to redesign the site for me or anyone else. > > I didn't even suggest it. However, I did tell you, in my > > professional opinion, that NOT designing it so that people could > > upload, is basically poor design. > > > > I also noted that I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, by > > assuming you did not have the expertise to create a more robust site > > and so were doing the best you could, with the resources and expertise > > you had. So, with that in mind, I believe I reiterated that you should > > let people know, so they would not be disappointed, as I had been > > and as the other "visitors", who had contacted me about it, were. > > > > And I believe I reiterated that it was NOT a crime to lack the > > expertise to create (what I consider) a universally useful website, > > so it makes no sense (to me) to be so defensive about it. The site > > is not something I can use, or that many people, can use, but there > > are many people who will love it and use it. It's not necessary > > for EVERYONE to like it. It's not a reflection on you, so it > > makes no sense for you to take it so personally. > > > > To those who want to use it -- I applaud you. To those who don't, > > so what. To me, it's that simple and really has nothing to do > > with the author. I would suggest a bit more data be included, > > in the advertising of the site. Some of us, who have full time > > jobs, multiple hobbies and responsibilities, were very disappointed, > > once we visited the site. > > > > Now, add to this, the fact that around the same time this site was > > instroduced, some of the existing OK county sites were "re-adopte" > > and much of the data we had uploaded to those sites was removed. > > I'm just a bit more selective in where I spend my time, sharing data, > > than I have been in the past. > > > > Now -- since it was suggested in your earlier messages -- > > Please do not assume we, who are short of time, would browse > > the site to use the info, without taking the time to add our own > > data. I don't think that would be at all fair (kind of like > > "now, who will eat this porridge"), so for me, personally, I > > promise, until I have time to reenter all my FGS data manually, > > I won't look at any of the existing data on your site. So, > > please do not worry about that. > > > > :-) > > acp > > ------- > > > > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Oklahoma Cemetery > list, use > > OK-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or > OK-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if > > you are on the Digest list. > > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the > Oklahoma > > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- :-) acp ******** "Too many stupid people. Too few comets." ******** ******************************************************************** * A. Collene Pearce * collene@jump.net * www.jump.net/~collene * ********************************************************************