My grgrandfather, BERNARD HENRY WINDOFFER, died in Guthrie, OK on August 10, 1896. Does anyone have information on where he might have been buried or where I might find a death certificate or an obit. Jerry

Sherrie, I found the record of Olif W. KIELY's burial in the Pleasant View - Jet Cemetery. It list "4 unmarked stones" "Olif W. KIELY" " Dec. 7, 1879 - Oct. 14, 1966 " I've xeroxed the page and a page showing the layout of the cemetery if you'd like them. Send me you address off the page, directly to [email protected] and I'll mail them to you. Fred- Frederick Dittmar http://www.dittmar.net/fred List Administrator: [email protected] [email protected] Genealogical Assistant & Board Member Oklahoma Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgs

Evy, Thank you for your response to my letter about the engraving on the grave stone in Piedmont, Oklahoma. The 3 interlocking circles with the letters F / L / T over the letter R are for the International Order of Odd Fellows. See: http://128.125.109.137/IOOF.shtml I am a 32nd Degree Mason being a member at the Guthrie Scottish Rite in Oklahoma and we have no connection with the Odd Fellows as we are two different fraternal orders. See my home page 4 - Masonic Links. The crescent "C" with the Bird and 7 Stars are completely foreign to me. There is no symbolism as such that I know of in Masonry. Fred Frederick Dittmar, 32nd KCCH http://www.dittmar.net/fred List Administrator: [email protected] [email protected] Genealogical Assistant & Board Member Oklahoma Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgs

Isn' t the number of stars the rank they were in the order. I have a book on free Masons now and many wore rings with these symbles to. I see them on peoples hands and stuff where I work. I can get the books out if you want On Tue, 02 Jan 2001 15:24:34 -0600 Frederick Dittmar <[email protected]> writes: > Bess, Sorry for the delay in answering. The university (My > connection) > burned up a tunnel with electric cables to 10 buildings and all the > computer fiberoptics for the campus on the 19th of December and we > just > got back on line the 29th. I've been through 286 e-mails I had > backed > up in my mail box. > > I've talked with two people "in the Know" and the best I can come up > with is the symbols are part of the Fraternal Order known as the > "Odd > Fellows" and the "R" is for the Rebekah which is the Order with in > the > Odd Fellows for their Ladies. > The letters F = Friendship L = Love & T = Trust. Neither men > know > the significance of the "crested C" or the 7 stars and bird. > > Your might try to contact the Odd Fellows at the following site: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/fraternal.htm > > or at: http://128.125.109.137/IOOF.shtml > > Fred > Frederick Dittmar > http://www.dittmar.net/fred > > List Administrator: [email protected] > [email protected] > > Genealogical Assistant & Board Member > Oklahoma Genealogical Society > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgs > > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on > the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > The easiest way to stay in touch with your family and friends! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST1 > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

In about 1899 My Great Aunt and Uncle Gerome Alexander and Patience Alice Kellett were traveling with a wagon train through Oklahoma on their way to Texas. They had to stop in a place unknown so Patience could give birth to her twin sons. The babies live only a few days and were buried in Oklahoma in a cemetery according to the family records. (no name of the cemetery or town or county) I suspect it was in the south east corner of the state, but not sure. If you happen to come across the graves of these Kellett babies, I would appreciate hearing from you. Kathleen Burnett List Mom

There are two new Oklahoma Mailing Lists you might be interested in. OK-Mysteries, a mailing list to discuss the unsolved Mysteries of Oklahoma. To subscribe send only the word subscribe to [email protected] or [email protected] The second list is OK-VINTAGEPHOTOS. This is a mailing list to talk about those old Oklahoma Photos. A place to help one another date them, preserve them and locate the descendants of found Oklahoma Photos. To subscribe send only the word subscribe to [email protected] or [email protected] Kathleen Burnett List Mom

Bess, Sorry for the delay in answering. The university (My connection) burned up a tunnel with electric cables to 10 buildings and all the computer fiberoptics for the campus on the 19th of December and we just got back on line the 29th. I've been through 286 e-mails I had backed up in my mail box. I've talked with two people "in the Know" and the best I can come up with is the symbols are part of the Fraternal Order known as the "Odd Fellows" and the "R" is for the Rebekah which is the Order with in the Odd Fellows for their Ladies. The letters F = Friendship L = Love & T = Trust. Neither men know the significance of the "crested C" or the 7 stars and bird. Your might try to contact the Odd Fellows at the following site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/fraternal.htm or at: http://128.125.109.137/IOOF.shtml Fred Frederick Dittmar http://www.dittmar.net/fred List Administrator: [email protected] [email protected] Genealogical Assistant & Board Member Oklahoma Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgs

Does anyone know for sure the name of the cemetery in Tuttle in Grady County. Somehow, I thought it was Fairview, but have been told recently that is is Fairlawn. Gene

Hello, all. This will be the last update for this year. :) The Oklahoma Cemeteries Mailing List Homepage has been updated: http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm For Blaine County: With thanks to Robert Nusz I have added several more Tombstone photos to Ebenfield Cemetery. For Canadian County: With thanks to Jo Weaver I have added several Tombstone photos for Mustang Cemetery. For Cleveland County: With thanks to Jim Woodruff I have added Gate Photos for the following cemeteries: Blackburn, Fairview, Banner Cemetery, Denver, Dripping Springs, Independence, Maguire-Fairview, Schwartz, Sunset and Willow View For those researching in Logan County: Crescent Cemetery has been updated With thanks to Jo Weaver tombstone photos have been added to Oakland Knowles and Crescent Cemeteries. For those researching in Oklahoma County: With thanks to John Lehr I have added more Tombstone photos to Arcadia Cemetery. Grace Lawn A's, B's, C's D's E's and F's have been updated to include a separate column for Inscriptions and Military. Grace Lawn G's, H's, I's, J's and K's have been added. For Pottawatomie County: The following photos have been added with thanks to Jim Woodruff: Avoca - Tombstone Photo Abrams - Gate Photo Bethal - Tombstone Photo Black - Gate Photo Blackburn - Gate Photo Brown - Gate Photo & Tombstone Photos Calvary - Gate Photo Centerville - Gate Photo Highland - Gate Photo Hopewell - Gate Photo McLoud - Gate Photo & Tombstone Photo Minneha - Gate Photo Moral - Gate Photo & Tombstone New Hope - Gate Photo Oak Grove - Tombstone Photo Prairie View - Gate Photo Ray - Gate Photo Romulus - Gate Photo Tribbey - Gate Photo & Tombstone Photos Wanette - Tombstone Photos Enjoy!! Tammie and Kathleen -- Tammie Chada [email protected] Guthrie, Logan County, Oklahoma OK Logan: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oklogan/oklogan.htm Over 1900 pages on line for free access Check out my homepage: http://www.flash.net/~tchada/

I am looking for my ggrandmother grave. She died in 1898 in one of the Southern States. She was born abt. 1860 in Warrick Co., IN. Could someone check the death index and see if she might be buried in one of the cemeteries in AR.? It might be around Miller Co., Sever Co., Lafetta Co., AR.- or Morris Co., Bowie Co., or Titus Co., Smith Co.,TX.- or in OKl. she might of died in McCutin Co., or Steven Co.,OK. It would be so great if I could find her grave or a index to her birth & death dates and where she is buried at. Thanks for your help. Shirley Fedele in ID.

In a message dated 12/30/00 10:07:42 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I am looking for my ggrandmother grave. She died in 1898 > in one of the Southern States. Uh... Shirley, did the woman have a name? Bob Morton Austin, Texas

I'm searching for the grave of Isabel E Sparkman(Native American), b. abt 1868 Georgia, married Mar 13, 1884 Van Buren Cty AR, moved to Indian Territory with family around 1887-1889 and died during that time. She's supposed to be buried in Indian Territory. One of the older family members of our family said he remembers the name of Kycord or something to that effect. PLease can anyone help me?? This is my GreatGrandmother and I cannot find anything on her death/burial location. Thank you Penny Baker

Dear List Members: The year 2000 is almost over and it is time again for your Quarterly Report as to the membership of this list. The Oklahoma Cemetery list is a newer list, so this is the first Quarterly Report you will have received. The OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List has 339 members, 255 of these are subscribed to the Regular List and 84 to the Digest List. If you would like to visit the archived messages you may go to http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and type in OK-CEMETERIES. From there you can search by keyword. Remember to check out our OK-CEMETERIES Web page located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm . Let us know if you have volunteered and your name is not appear or if you would like to volunteer or if you have an inventory of a Oklahoma Cemetery you would like us to link to. Your Web Mistress is Tammie Chada [email protected] There is a great Rootsweb site you can go to if you want to find out what Rootsweb lists you are a member of or need to unsubscribe from a list, just follow the instructions. http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ I want to thank each of you for continuing to help make this list the success it is. I also want to thank you for your support of me and your willingness to follow the list rules. Just a reminder as to the rules of this list so that it is better for each of us. Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact me at [email protected] Also the calling for Roll Call is not allow by members of this list. If you feel the need for a Roll Call contact me and we will schedule one with a beginning time and ending time. I wish for each of you a success in year 2001 with your most difficult genealogical mystery. Kathleen Burnett List Mom [email protected]

Did you get an answer to your querie? If not write to the: Kiamichi Country Genealogy Society, P.O. Box 481, Broken Bow, OK 74728 I am sure that will help you -- they do need/appreciate donations for the society -- and they are very helpful! Tell them Kay Couch-Lopez recommended them!! In a message dated 12/5/00 2:36:09 PM, [email protected] writes: << Can anyone help Melvin? Please reply to him as I'm not sure he is on our Mailing List. Thanks. Subject: Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:56:03 -0600 From: "mlbjbyrd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Hello Tammie, I have an Uncle Robert Herring and his son that is suppose to be buried in Broken Bow, OK. I would appreciate any help to locate where they are and a then if possible take a picture of the site and send it to us. we will cover the cost. Thanks, will be appreciated Greatly Melvin Byrd -- Tammie Chada [email protected] Guthrie, Logan County, Oklahoma OK Logan: http://www.rootsweb.com/~oklogan/oklogan.htm Over 1800 pages on line for free access Check out my homepage: http://www.flash.net/~tchada/

I'm trying to find the graves of my gr. grandparents they are probably buried in or around Jet. Their names are Olif W. Kiely and Flora (Randolph) Kiely. Olif W. Kiely was born about 1879 and died 1966, I don't have any dates for Flora...... Flora is the daughter of Simon (spelling?) and Jenny (Virginia or ?) Randolph. Olif W. Kiely is the son of John Kiely and Martha (Mattie) (Witherspoon) Kiely. I would like to find their burial places also. I will be thrilled with ANY information on this family..... Places? Dates? Inscriptions? Any suggestions on how to get this information? Is there more than one funeral home in Jet? Names or addresses? Thank you, Sherrie

Hello All, Hope all had a restful holiday. I have some new information and more questions I hope someone can help me with. 1900 census for Pope County, Lee Township lists Lewis Gamble with wife Mattie Gamble b 5/1870, daughter Lori b 11/1891, daughter Lona E b 12/1893, step-son Will Morgan b 12/1885. It also states that Mattie is the mother of 3 children with 3 living and that Lewis and Mattie have been married 12 years. I have a marriage license for Louis Gamble age 21 of Atkins and Martha Morgan age 19 of Atkins 5/31/1888 listed in Conway County. I have another marriage license for Wain Grant of Atkins and Mattie Gamble of Atkins 1903 listed in Conway County. I have Wayne and Mattie in the 1910 and 1920 census for Hughes County Ok. Listed with them is a son Claude Grant. On the 1910 census Mattie is listed as the mother of 2 with 1 living. Now for the questions. I would like to locate a marriage license for unknown Morgan and Martha Taylor it should be about 1884. In any county between Randolph and Conway. I would like to establish that Martha's parents are Thomas "Tommy" Taylor and Mary Jane "Pop" Justice. They were from Randolph County Arkansas. I think her birth date is between 1868 and 1873. What happened to her Morgan husband and to Lewis Gamble? Did they divorce, die or quit the marriage? Why were her daughters not listed with her on the 1910 and 1920 census? Where were they? Why does she say she is the mother of 2 children on the 1910 census? What happened to Will Morgan? Does anyone have him in their line? I know Lori/Lura, Lona and Claude are deceased. They are all buried in the Holdenville Cemetery in OK. I have some emails from relatives but the information handed down is sketchy at best. If anyone has any suggestions or can help with any of these people I sure would appreciate it. This is about as far as I can go. Thanks in advance for all your help and have a great New Year with your research. yvonne _______________________________________________ Yvonne Henson WK: 719-265-0087 HM: 719-597-0298 "Be Prepared, It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark."

Hi Everyone. This is a shot in the dark but I am looking for my ggrandmother grave Mary Belle (aka.Belle) Dawson Bingle. She died in 1898 in one of the Southern States. She was born abt. 1860 in Warrick Co., IN. Could someone check the death index and see if she might be buried in one of the cemeteries in AR.? It might be around Miller Co.,Sever Co., Lafeyette Co., AR.- or Morris Co., Bowie Co., or Titus Co.,Smith Co.,TX. or she might of died in McCutin Co., or Steven Co.,OKl. It would be such great if I could find her grave or a index to her birth & death dates and where she is buried at. Thanks for your help. Shirley Fedele in ID.

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Meanings of Carvings Found on Tombstones: Arches -- Victory in Death Arrows -- Mortality Bouquets/Flowers -- Condolences, grief, sorrow Buds/Rosebud -- Morning of Life or Renewal of Life Roses -- Brevity of earthly existence Portals -- Passageway to eternal journey Bugles -- Resurrection and the Military Crossed Swords -- High-ranking military person Flying Birds -- Flight of the Soul Fruits -- Eternal plenty Garlands -- Victory in death Imps -- Mortality Shells -- Pilgrimage of Life Thistles -- Remembrance Tombs -- Mortality Trees -- Life Trumpeters -- Heralds of the Resurrection Willows -- Earthly Sorrow Morning Glory -- Beginning of Life Butterfly -- Short-lived - Early Death Full-Blown Rose -- Prime of Life Palm Branch -- Signifies Victory and Rejoicing Ivy -- Friendship and Immortality Laurel ---Fame or Victory Oak Leaves and Acorn -- Maturity, Ripe Old Age Weeping Willow -- Emblem of Sorrow Corn -- Ripe Old Age Sheaf of Wheat -- Ripe for Harvest, Divine Harvest, Time Poppy -- Sleep Lamb -- Innocence Dove -- Innocence, Gentleness, Affection, Purity Cherub -- Angelic Cross -- Emblem of Faith Anchor/Ships -- Hope or Seafaring profession Broken Ring -- Family Circle Severed Broken Column -- Loss of Head of Family Torch Inverted -- Life Extinct Urn with Blaze -- Undying Friendship Harp -- Praise to the Maker Handshakes -- Farewell Hearts -- Soul in Bliss or Love of Christ Horns -- The Resurrection Hourglass -- Swiftness of Time Open Book/ Bible -- Deceased Teacher, Minister, etc. Lily or Lily of Valley -- Emblem of Innocence and Purity Tree Stump w/Ivy -- Head of Family - Immortality Urn with /Wreath or Crepe -- Mourning Stars and Stripes Around Eagle -- Eternal Vigilance, Liberty Hourglass w/Wings of Time -- Time Flying/Short Life Candle being Snuffed -- Time, mortality Coffin, Father Time, Picks/Shovels, Darts -- Mortality Hand of God Chopping -- Sudden Death Winged Effigies--- Flight of the Soul

See if you can find anything here ! http://www.cem.va.gov/hmemb.htm GRAVEN IMAGES http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/grave.htm GRAVE SYMBOLS http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/grave_initials.htm OKLAHOMA FRATERNAL, SERVICE and OTHER http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/fraternal.htm cemeteries head stone symbol meaningsis: www.headstonehunter.com/meanings.htm Commemorative Motifs, Mourning Images, and Memento Mori Spider Web on a tombstone represents Human Frailty http://members.aol.com/TombView/symbol2.html Headstone Acronyms http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~blksheep/acronym.html Cemetery terms http://www.webb.net/sites/mac_home/mac.faq5.html#ctm SYMBOLS, LETTERS, AND MARKERS THAT ACCOMPANY TOMBSTONES Some of the most interesting things about cemetery records are the symbols, letters, and markers that accompany the tombstones. There are several military organizations that supply markers for members who have died. Some of them are: - http://www.chesapeake.net/DAR/--Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) - http://pages.prodigy.com/CGBD86A/garhp.htm--Grand Army of the Republic (GAR)--Veterans and Descendants of Union Civil War Soldiers - http://www.scv.org/--Sons of Confederate Veterans - http://www.feist.com/~wichvaro/marker.html--Department of Veteran Affairs/Headstone or Marker Program - http://www.vfw.org/homenon.shtml--Veterans of Foreign Wars