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Carol, we have quite a few HANEYs buried in a little cemetery in Tulsa County, OK, called Covey/Rosencutter Cemetery. We have it about four-fifths listed on our website at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kinfolkkorner Just scroll down to either the "Jenks America" link or the "Cemeteries Pages" link and you'll find it. I sure hope you find some of your line there! We are going to get that last one-fifth of the cemetery inventoried when the Spring thaw hits! Susan Strain [email protected]
I visited Lehigh Cemetery at Colgate Ok. Coal County, last year and found a grave in the very back. It`st stone read A. E. Jonesbut the A was warn away so badly until it was questionable as to wheather it was an A or not.The birth and the death dates were a match for my Grandpa, Allen Jones. I donot know his middle inital though. I was hoping you might have a book or record of the people buried there at Lehigh Cemetery to check. If I could prove this is my Grandpa it would end my search for him.Thanks for listening and for any time you may spend on this. Buddy
Rich, I sent this to you privately but it was returned (?) From: "carol morse" <[email protected]> To: "Rich Moberly" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [OK-CEM] Garfield Co. OK - Crandall > No Butlers in Colorado that I am aware of but my gr-grandmother, Tempe > Caroline Patterson Butler (wife of Albert Jasper Butler - Palo Pinto, TX) > moved to Carter Co., OK in 1905 after Albert died) then to Kiowa Co., OK in > 1914. > Zachariah Butler b 1736 Hanover, VA to Elbert Co., GA then his sons moved to > AL then MISS then Dallas Co., AR and finally to Santo, Palo Pinto, TX. > Any connections? > Carol in Okla > Always looking for cousins: > Adkisons,Butlers,Byrne,Ellis,Haney,Isaacs,Kincannon,Love,Morgan,Morse,Nelson > ,Patterson,Payne,Weir >
I believe a Custer County Cemetery book was published in 1994. Canadian County Cemeteries are recorded in several volumes. These books are available for research at the Historical Society Library (OHS) in Oklahoma City. Don't know if this will help you, but good luck! Mahlon Erickson ----- Original Message ----- From: "carol morse" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [OK-CEM] Placing Queries > I know my gr-grandmother is buried in Oklahoma but I have not been able to > locate a death certificate or place of burial. The story is a mystery and > she may never be found. Here is what I know: > Mary Elizabeth ELLIS, born 21 April 1867 in Tishomingo Co., Miss. Married > John L. BYRNE1883, Grayson Co., TX; divorced Byrne and married George > ISAACS, 1891 in El Reno, Canadian Co., OK. Isaacs was sentenced to life in > prison at Huntsville for his involvement with the Doolin Gang in the murder > of Hemphill Sheriff McGee in 1894 during a train robbery. Isaacs later > escaped and no more information has been found on his whereabouts or date of > death. Mary Elizabeth ISAACS, aka "Lizzie", was given a life sentence on > February 11, 1898 as an accessory to the murder of a man named Elder in 1896 > in Chickasha along with her brother, John Ellis. The sentence was later > overturned due to public outcry and sympathy for Lizzie. > Lizzie ISAACS, claiming widow status, with her 3 sons, Wiley BYRNE, Richard > ISAACS, and Roy ISAACS, were in the Chickasha, Grady County 1900 census. > Lizzie ISAACS, with her 2 sons, Richard and Roy, were found in the Clinton, > Custer Co., 1910 census. Somewhere between 1912 and 1916, Mary Elizabeth > "Lizzie" Ellis Byrne Isaacs was living with her sisters ex-husband, Tom N. > SPARKS. No marriage certificate has been found. Lizzie caught Tom with > another woman and burned his barn down. Tom shot and killed Lizzie the next > day. Lizzie's 2 sons (by George Isaacs) then shot and killed Tom Sparks as > he was being led up/down the courthouse steps to/from his arraignment for > murder of Lizzie. The boys were never charged. The Ellis family Bible only > has a short notation: Lizzie died January the 4 (and the year is illegible) > but appears to be either 1914 or 1916. The family would never speak of her > again until after the death of both her parents. I have exhausted the > newspaper files that are available in Carter Co. and found no mention of the > barn-burning or murders. I have never had an opportunity to explore larger > newspapers so any help would be appreciated so much. > > Carol in Okla > Always looking for cousins: > Adkisons,Butlers,Byrne,Ellis,Haney,Isaacs,Kincannon,Love,Morgan,Morse,Nelson > ,Patterson,Payne,Weir > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > >
I know my gr-grandmother is buried in Oklahoma but I have not been able to locate a death certificate or place of burial. The story is a mystery and she may never be found. Here is what I know: Mary Elizabeth ELLIS, born 21 April 1867 in Tishomingo Co., Miss. Married John L. BYRNE1883, Grayson Co., TX; divorced Byrne and married George ISAACS, 1891 in El Reno, Canadian Co., OK. Isaacs was sentenced to life in prison at Huntsville for his involvement with the Doolin Gang in the murder of Hemphill Sheriff McGee in 1894 during a train robbery. Isaacs later escaped and no more information has been found on his whereabouts or date of death. Mary Elizabeth ISAACS, aka "Lizzie", was given a life sentence on February 11, 1898 as an accessory to the murder of a man named Elder in 1896 in Chickasha along with her brother, John Ellis. The sentence was later overturned due to public outcry and sympathy for Lizzie. Lizzie ISAACS, claiming widow status, with her 3 sons, Wiley BYRNE, Richard ISAACS, and Roy ISAACS, were in the Chickasha, Grady County 1900 census. Lizzie ISAACS, with her 2 sons, Richard and Roy, were found in the Clinton, Custer Co., 1910 census. Somewhere between 1912 and 1916, Mary Elizabeth "Lizzie" Ellis Byrne Isaacs was living with her sisters ex-husband, Tom N. SPARKS. No marriage certificate has been found. Lizzie caught Tom with another woman and burned his barn down. Tom shot and killed Lizzie the next day. Lizzie's 2 sons (by George Isaacs) then shot and killed Tom Sparks as he was being led up/down the courthouse steps to/from his arraignment for murder of Lizzie. The boys were never charged. The Ellis family Bible only has a short notation: Lizzie died January the 4 (and the year is illegible) but appears to be either 1914 or 1916. The family would never speak of her again until after the death of both her parents. I have exhausted the newspaper files that are available in Carter Co. and found no mention of the barn-burning or murders. I have never had an opportunity to explore larger newspapers so any help would be appreciated so much. Carol in Okla Always looking for cousins: Adkisons,Butlers,Byrne,Ellis,Haney,Isaacs,Kincannon,Love,Morgan,Morse,Nelson ,Patterson,Payne,Weir
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I did not mean to cause any problems with my statement about giving a place and name and date with each query. I simply think it is inappropriate, when someone says they will do look ups for a specific county, to ask them to look up someone who is obviously not buried in that county.For example, the querist who has relatives buried in Muskogee County towns asking for a look up from the person who offered to look up Garfield County burials. If the querist had looked at a state map or Rand McNally atlas, he/she would have seen that Muskogee County was the area being researched. Mahlon Erickson
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Dear List Members, I also agree that if you know of an area or a county or the name of a cemetery when you ask for lookup, please give it. It will save the volunteer much time. If you do not know of an area, a county or name of a cemetery - let the volunteer know that you are not even sure what county it is in but you think........ This way the volunteer knows up front that they are just checking for a hope that your ancester is there. Kathleen Burnett List Mom Mahlon Erickson wrote: > I did not mean to cause any problems with my statement about giving a place and name and date with each query. I simply think it is inappropriate, when someone says they will do look ups for a specific county, to ask them to look up someone who is obviously not buried in that county.For example, the querist who has relatives buried in Muskogee County towns asking for a look up from the person who offered to look up Garfield County burials. If the querist had looked at a state map or Rand McNally atlas, he/she would have seen that Muskogee County was the area being researched. > > Mahlon Erickson > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Oklahoma Cemetery list, use > [email protected] or [email protected] if > you are on the Digest list. > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library
Pastor Joe, You have placed your query on the correct page. "OKLAHOMA CEMETERIES" This page is monitored by individuals in all parts of the state and out of state who have books and records at hand which they can look up a query like yours. Some have access, like myself, on a weekly basis or more often if a library is closer where they can do look ups. The page is also monitored by some Genealogical Societies but they tend not to answer unless a question is put directly to them. They run on a tight budget, xeroxing and postage really add up over a period of time. They would love to research but a donation should be offered. They can't solicit on the page as it's a free page. I pocket queries from 3 mail list that I"m on and take them to the Oklahoma Historical Library on my weekly trip, 34 miles, and while waiting for a reader I'll look up request in the County History and Cemetery Books. I don't always get a chance to look up queries so unless I'm successful I usually don't write and then sometimes someone else has answered the question. Fred Frederick Dittmar http://www.dittmar.net/fred List Administrator: [email protected] [email protected] Genealogical Assistant & Board Member Oklahoma Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgs
Lois, thank you so very much for the lookup. It was an added bonus to find out his wife was buried next to him as we thought she was buried in Calif. Carol in Okla Always looking for cousins: Adkisons,Butlers,Byrne,Ellis,Haney,Isaacs,Kincannon,Love,Morgan,Morse,Nelson ,Patterson,Payne,Weir
I am confused...I thought that this list was for the whole state. I have asked questions about a cemetery in Norman and received plenty of responses. I asked a question yesterday about Texola, is this the wrong list for that??? joe harrington ====Original message============== Just a note to those who access this list and place queries. As a person who does many lookups, it is very frustrating when people place queries without having done any research on thier own. It takes very little time to look at a state roadmap (or in an encyclopedia) to see what county a town is in. Don't place a query for Garfield county when the places of death and burial are in Muskogee County. This is a waste of the researcher's time. Just a thought......Mahlon Erickson, Payne County area genealogist _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Hello Mahlon: I don't remember myself having asked a question which I could've answered myself with a little effort but I won't say I definitely am not guilty of such and I agree with your philosophy. I certainly will give more thought to asking for help in the future -- to make sure I've done my homework first. Jo Cabrera ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mahlon Erickson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: [OK-CEM] Placing Queries if you want a response > Just a note to those who access this list and place queries. As a person who does many lookups, it is very frustrating when people place queries without having done any research on thier own. It takes very little time to look at a state roadmap (or in an encyclopedia) to see what county a town is in. Don't place a query for Garfield county when the places of death and burial are in Muskogee County. This is a waste of the researcher's time. > > Just a thought......Mahlon Erickson, Payne County area genealogist > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >
----Original Message Follows---- From: Gene Philips <[email protected]> No kidding, I got a query yesterday that only listed names. No dates or places. Hey Gene, was that one I sent you. LOL I agree that it really helps with dates and places as well as names. I got one last week that asked if I could find out where "grandpa" died....it was either Cooke Co., TX or somewhere in OK. Most people are considerate tho when it comes to asking for info. Jacque _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Carol, you did just right.. The request go to the list.. If I get a request that isn't in Garfield Co. I will just let someone else answer. Below is a link to locating a town in OK.. very good. http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/locatetown.htm Lois >From: "carol morse" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [OK-CEM] Garfield Co. OK >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:48:44 -0600 > >Was my request for a lookup supposed to go to just Lois Burdick? If so, >sorry. >Carol in Okla >Always looking for cousins: >Adkisons,Butlers,Byrne,Ellis,Haney,Isaacs,Kincannon,Love,Morgan,Morse,Nelson >,Patterson,Payne,Weir > > >==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== >If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Oklahoma Cemetery list, >use >[email protected] or >[email protected] if >you are on the Digest list. >If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the >Oklahoma >Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html >To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett >Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > >============================== >Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Enid cemetery, Crandall, Orval E. b. 1905-April 10, 1951 buried April 13, 1951 Sect. E Plot C, L 34 husband of Stella. Crandell, Stella L. 1900- Feb. 4, 1990, b. Feb. 6, 1990 Lois in Enid Several other Crandall's but only two in this section. >From: "carol morse" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [OK-CEM] Garfield Co. OK >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:47:13 -0600 > >Hello, would appreciate a lookup for CRANDALL, Orval or Orville. Last >known >address was Enid in the 1950s. >Thank you >Carol in Okla >Always looking for cousins: >Adkisons,Butlers,Byrne,Ellis,Haney,Isaacs,Kincannon,Love,Morgan,Morse,Nelson >,Patterson,Payne,Weir > > >==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== >Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; >http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html >If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the >Oklahoma >Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html >To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett >Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > >============================== >Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp >Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
At 02:32 PM 02/19/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Just a note to those who access this list and place queries. As a person who does many lookups, it is very frustrating when people place queries without having done any research on their own. It takes very little time to look at a state roadmap (or in an encyclopedia) to see what county a town is in. Don't place a query for Garfield county when the places of death and burial are in Muskogee County. This is a waste of the researcher's time. > > No kidding, I got a query yesterday that only listed names. No dates or places. I replied and asked for more information if she wanted me to answer my query. She sent me back a message that listed about 8 counties they might be buried in, and could I check them out for her. Sorry, but I don't have the time to do that. Even if I had the books for all the counties. One of the people she was looking for died in 1978. Surely she had family members to ask. That was only 22 years ago. Gene
Have a Nathaniel WEIR/WEARE, etc. in my line back in Mass in the 1600's. Intermarried with my SWAIN line of Nantucket, etc. Also have ELLIS in my line. Will have to check on it. Reba Neighbors Collins [email protected]