Payne Co. OK had a "poor farm". However, the records were apparently disposed of when its doors were closed. I do not know if they exist for other counties. Another possibility, but one most would probably not want to consider: There is a Taft correctional center. If it is in Taft OK it is in Muskogee Co. I don;t know how long it has been in operation or even where it is, but the name sounds close enough to be a possibility. Mahlon Erickson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Becky Quinn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [OK-CEM] mental hospitals of OK > Having been born in Ok. I was only there my first year of life. I have spent the last 49 years in Greene County MO. You may also want to ask the question if Oklahoma counties had Alms houses or poor farms like MO. did. Mentally retarded and the insane wound up in these facilities that also housed widows, debtors and unclaimed orphans. In MO. most of these homes or farms had their own cemeteries and a few records in MO at least remain. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gene Philips > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:02 PM > Subject: Re: [OK-CEM] mental hospitals of OK > > > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > List problems? Contact the OK-Cemeteries List Mom <[email protected]> > Use Kathleen as the subject line for your post > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > >

I checked my database of burials in Pawnee County. I have personally canvassed all cemeteries in Pawnee County (except three sections of Cleveland's cemetery) and gone through the sexton's records for Highland in Pawnee. I find no Hoss family members in the database. In the off chance they died and were buried at Yale or Glencoe in Payne County I checked my Payne Co. OK Cemetery Index. Again no Hosses buried there. Sorry for the negative reponse. Mahlon Erickson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Harding" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:14 PM Subject: [OK-CEM] Pawnee County Cemeteries re HOSS > Last known to live in Pawnee, OK, William HOSS in mid-1930s. Wife was > Elizabeth HOSS. Would appreciate any information regarding their deaths, > burials, or obituaries. I believe Elizabeth (great grandmother)preceded > William in death as I do not remember her on visits to see my gr grandfather > when I was a small child. One daughter was Nellie Launna Hoss Morris (my > grandmother) who moved to Lincoln, NE and married. Thanks in advance Kay > Harding [email protected] > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > List problems? Contact the OK-Cemeteries List Mom <[email protected]> > Use Kathleen as the subject line for your post > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

Last known to live in Pawnee, OK, William HOSS in mid-1930s. Wife was Elizabeth HOSS. Would appreciate any information regarding their deaths, burials, or obituaries. I believe Elizabeth (great grandmother)preceded William in death as I do not remember her on visits to see my gr grandfather when I was a small child. One daughter was Nellie Launna Hoss Morris (my grandmother) who moved to Lincoln, NE and married. Thanks in advance Kay Harding [email protected]

It is still there and in operation.. Lois Guffy of Byron OK.. ************************************************** I think there used to be a State Hospital at Fort Supply in the Western part of OK in Woodward county. I remember it being there about 1959.

Having been born in Ok. I was only there my first year of life. I have spent the last 49 years in Greene County MO. You may also want to ask the question if Oklahoma counties had Alms houses or poor farms like MO. did. Mentally retarded and the insane wound up in these facilities that also housed widows, debtors and unclaimed orphans. In MO. most of these homes or farms had their own cemeteries and a few records in MO at least remain. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Philips To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [OK-CEM] mental hospitals of OK

Hi, I found a Taliaferro Mental Clinic in Altus, Jackson County. Talf could be an abbreviation. Not very close to Hughes County, but, could be a clue. We all love those clues! Jan

There is also a Taliaferro Mental Health Clinic in Lawton, Ok. That is in Comanche County.--Taliaferro was a politician some years ago from Oklahoma. Julia On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:12:58 EST [email protected] writes: > Hi, > I found a Taliaferro Mental Clinic in Altus, Jackson County. Talf > could be > an abbreviation. Not very close to Hughes County, but, could be a > clue. We > all love those clues! Jan > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on > the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit > http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

At 08:49 PM 02/20/2001 -0600, you wrote: >I'm not sure if we are talking about just Mental hospitals or the State >hospitals for the mentally retarted. State Hospitals is what they were officially called. They were mental hospitals ran by the state of Oklahoma. Since they were state hospitals they also took in charity patients. There is also a cemetery for the state hospital in Norman. It's now called Griffin Memorial Hospital, but was known in earlier times as Central State Hospital. The cemetery is unique in that the people are buried in chronological order. The oldest grave is in the southeast corner of the cemetery. The row runs north to the edge of the cemetery. Then they came back to the south end of the cemetery and started another row. Strangest thing I have seen in a cemetery. All the markers are identical in size also. The cemetery is known as Rock Creek Cemetery. It's on the corner of Rock Creek Rd and 12th Ave NE.

At 09:26 PM 02/20/2001 -0500, you wrote: >There was a mental hospital in Ft. Supply, Okla. >Jackie Right you are. It's Western State Hospital. Found it on my map when you gave the name of the town. Gene

There was a hospital (I think State) for the mentally ill at Vinita, OK at one time (may still be there) in eastern OK. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois Burdick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:49 PM Subject: [OK-CEM] mental hospitals of OK > I'm not sure if we are talking about just Mental hospitals or the State > hospitals for the mentally retarted. > > The Enid State School ( now know as NORCE is in Enid Garfield Co. OK and > accepted children and adults from quite a few countys in OK.starting in the > early part of the 1900's. > > There is a cemetery on the grounds that as far as I know has never been > indexed.. The records are sealed. > However in some funeral records several are listed and say charge to______ > County.. Feeble minded inst. > > If anyone thinks it would be of intrest I will look up the names I can find > and post to the list. Lois > > > > > > >==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > >Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > >http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > >If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the > >Oklahoma > >Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > >To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > >Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > > >============================== > >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

There was a mental hospital in Ft. Supply, Okla. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Philips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [OK-CEM] shiloh cemetery and talf mental hospital > At 05:16 PM 02/20/2001 -0800, you wrote: > >I am trying to find, my wifes side of her family buried in shiloh > >cemetery, in hughes county oklahoma. I wanted to see if there was a > >listing done that shows the names of the people burried there. I am > >looking for the names bruner, bailey fleming and will bird fleming. I > >am also looking for a talf mental hospital as well. > > > > The only mental hospitals know of in Oklahoma were in Vinita & Norman. I'm > sure there was one in the western part of the state. The one in Vinita was > Eastern State Hospital and the one in Norman was Central State Hospital. It > also may have been a private hospital. These 2 were run by the state. > > Gene > > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > >

Oklahoma Cemetery folk: My husband's aunt Caroline Davidson and his uncle Walter Davidson and Walter's wife Georgia are missing. We believe Caroline was buried in Blaine County or an adjacent county, but we do not know where these people are. We want to be sure their graves are marked, but must find them first. Can anyone with a book do look ups for us? There are no death certificates. Any help will be sincerely appreciated. Jacqueline Davidson ----- > ~ > > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

This is a long shot, but could you see if there is a Walter Davidson, his wife Georgia, or Caroline Davidson there? I do not know where in the world they are. May be in Oklahoma, and may not.... TIA Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacque Pearce Reynolds" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:40 PM Subject: [OK-CEM] Placing Queries if you want a response > I am willing to do lookups in Bryan County via my cemetery books. I don't > live there but do have the books. Drop me a line if you need a lookup in > Bryan Co. Jacque > > > > Searching these names: D.A.I.L.E.Y. C.R.O.W.L.E.Y P.E.A.R.C.E. > B.L.A.N.K.E.N.S.H.I.P. M.Y.E.R.S. L.E.S.L.E.Y. T.R.I.M.B.L.E. B.O.W.L.E.S. > R.E.Y.N.O.L.D.S. K.E.A.T.O.N..... W.I.L.L.I.S.. > P.O.W.E.L.L....E.L.D.R.I.D.G.E. and more. > > "Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble > remembering how to fly." > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Oklahoma Cemetery list, use > [email protected] or [email protected] if > you are on the Digest list. > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > >

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I'm not sure if we are talking about just Mental hospitals or the State hospitals for the mentally retarted. The Enid State School ( now know as NORCE is in Enid Garfield Co. OK and accepted children and adults from quite a few countys in OK.starting in the early part of the 1900's. There is a cemetery on the grounds that as far as I know has never been indexed.. The records are sealed. However in some funeral records several are listed and say charge to______ County.. Feeble minded inst. If anyone thinks it would be of intrest I will look up the names I can find and post to the list. Lois > > >==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== >Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; >http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html >If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the >Oklahoma >Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html >To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett >Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > >============================== >Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! >http://searches.rootsweb.com/ > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I think there used to be a State Hospital at Fort Supply in the Western part of OK in Woodward county. I remember it being there about 1959. [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Philips" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [OK-CEM] shiloh cemetery and talf mental hospital > At 05:16 PM 02/20/2001 -0800, you wrote: > >I am trying to find, my wifes side of her family buried in shiloh > >cemetery, in hughes county oklahoma. I wanted to see if there was a > >listing done that shows the names of the people burried there. I am > >looking for the names bruner, bailey fleming and will bird fleming. I > >am also looking for a talf mental hospital as well. > > > > The only mental hospitals know of in Oklahoma were in Vinita & Norman. I'm > sure there was one in the western part of the state. The one in Vinita was > Eastern State Hospital and the one in Norman was Central State Hospital. It > also may have been a private hospital. These 2 were run by the state. > > Gene > > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; > http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/

At 05:16 PM 02/20/2001 -0800, you wrote: >I am trying to find, my wifes side of her family buried in shiloh >cemetery, in hughes county oklahoma. I wanted to see if there was a >listing done that shows the names of the people burried there. I am >looking for the names bruner, bailey fleming and will bird fleming. I >am also looking for a talf mental hospital as well. > The only mental hospitals know of in Oklahoma were in Vinita & Norman. I'm sure there was one in the western part of the state. The one in Vinita was Eastern State Hospital and the one in Norman was Central State Hospital. It also may have been a private hospital. These 2 were run by the state. Gene

I am trying to find, my wifes side of her family buried in shiloh cemetery, in hughes county oklahoma. I wanted to see if there was a listing done that shows the names of the people burried there. I am looking for the names bruner, bailey fleming and will bird fleming. I am also looking for a talf mental hospital as well. THANK YOU, JAMES MARTINEZ

I am willing to do lookups in Bryan County via my cemetery books. I don't live there but do have the books. Drop me a line if you need a lookup in Bryan Co. Jacque Searching these names: D.A.I.L.E.Y. C.R.O.W.L.E.Y P.E.A.R.C.E. B.L.A.N.K.E.N.S.H.I.P. M.Y.E.R.S. L.E.S.L.E.Y. T.R.I.M.B.L.E. B.O.W.L.E.S. R.E.Y.N.O.L.D.S. K.E.A.T.O.N..... W.I.L.L.I.S.. P.O.W.E.L.L....E.L.D.R.I.D.G.E. and more. "Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Carol, Have you tried http://www.oklahombres.org to find information? It is amazing at the reliable information they have amassed about outlaws and lawmen of Oklahoma. Jo ----- Original Message ----- From: "carol morse" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [OK-CEM] Placing Queries I know my gr-grandmother is buried in Oklahoma but I have not been able to locate a death certificate or place of burial. The story is a mystery and she may never be found. Here is what I know: Mary Elizabeth ELLIS, born 21 April 1867 in Tishomingo Co., Miss. Married John L. BYRNE1883, Grayson Co., TX; divorced Byrne and married George ISAACS, 1891 in El Reno, Canadian Co., OK. Isaacs was sentenced to life in prison at Huntsville for his involvement with the Doolin Gang in the murder of Hemphill Sheriff McGee in 1894 during a train robbery. Isaacs later escaped and no more information has been found on his whereabouts or date of death. Mary Elizabeth ISAACS, aka "Lizzie", was given a life sentence on February 11, 1898 as an accessory to the murder of a man named Elder in 1896 in Chickasha along with her brother, John Ellis. The sentence was later overturned due to public outcry and sympathy for Lizzie. Lizzie ISAACS, claiming widow status, with her 3 sons, Wiley BYRNE, Richard ISAACS, and Roy ISAACS, were in the Chickasha, Grady County 1900 census. Lizzie ISAACS, with her 2 sons, Richard and Roy, were found in the Clinton, Custer Co., 1910 census. Somewhere between 1912 and 1916, Mary Elizabeth "Lizzie" Ellis Byrne Isaacs was living with her sisters ex-husband, Tom N. SPARKS. No marriage certificate has been found. Lizzie caught Tom with another woman and burned his barn down. Tom shot and killed Lizzie the next day. Lizzie's 2 sons (by George Isaacs) then shot and killed Tom Sparks as he was being led up/down the courthouse steps to/from his arraignment for murder of Lizzie. The boys were never charged. The Ellis family Bible only has a short notation: Lizzie died January the 4 (and the year is illegible) but appears to be either 1914 or 1916. The family would never speak of her again until after the death of both her parents. I have exhausted the newspaper files that are available in Carter Co. and found no mention of the barn-burning or murders. I have never had an opportunity to explore larger newspapers so any help would be appreciated so much. Carol in Okla Always looking for cousins: Adkisons,Butlers,Byrne,Ellis,Haney,Isaacs,Kincannon,Love,Morgan,Morse,Nelson ,Patterson,Payne,Weir ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== Checkout the other lists being watched over by your List Mom; http://mailing_lists.homestead.com/lists.html If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the Oklahoma Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html To learn more about my world visit http://dwp.bigplanet.com/kburnett Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm ============================== Search over 900 million names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp