There is a William W Smith buried in Mead Cemetery west of Durant. He was born 17 Sep 1895 died 27 Jul 1971 Notes are: Ok Pvt Co E 110 Ammo Train WW1. Gene At 07:25 AM 7/13/02 -0700, you wrote: >HI -- >I'm looking for any information on my ggrandfather William Washington >Smith. He was married to Athol Serner (Surner). She is buried in Highland >Cemetary, Durant, Bryan County, OK.Athol died Dec 1966. I have been unable >to locate any death or burial information on William Washington (also >known as W.W.) It is believed tha he died around the mid to late 1960's. >He was in a Durant nursing home but when his wife , Athol, died, it is >possible that one of his children moved him to another location. I don't >where that would have been as I don't know who all of his children are. It >is also possilbe that he died before Athol. ANY information is appreciated >:) Thanks > > > > > >Carrie Mongillo > > >==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== >NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political >announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, >etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. >Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett >kathleenburnett@earthlink.net >Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer >Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

HI -- I'm looking for any information on my ggrandfather William Washington Smith. He was married to Athol Serner (Surner). She is buried in Highland Cemetary, Durant, Bryan County, OK.Athol died Dec 1966. I have been unable to locate any death or burial information on William Washington (also known as W.W.) It is believed tha he died around the mid to late 1960's. He was in a Durant nursing home but when his wife , Athol, died, it is possible that one of his children moved him to another location. I don't where that would have been as I don't know who all of his children are. It is also possilbe that he died before Athol. ANY information is appreciated :) Thanks Carrie Mongillo

Will the lady who had asked about relatives of Fritz Franke please contact me. Ithink her name was Betty Jo Scott. Becky Dreger

Should I check with Vital Records in OK City? I may be going there late next month. Thanks for your help. Becky

How would they know that there was no cause of death or doctor's sign. if they don't have it? In a message dated 6/20/02 12:32:29 PM, Ttjims@aol.com writes: << My grandfather who died in 1952 has funeral records but when Oklahoma Vital Records had no death cert. for him but did have d/c for his wife my grandmother who died in 1951 the Funeral Home contacted OK Vital Records for me and was told they do not have his d/c because no cause of death or Dr's signature. My question is how could someone have Death Funeral Record, obituary and burial if there is no cause of death or Dr's signature. So far his death has cost dummy me $20 for requesting his d/c twice. Does anyone think contacting OK State Senator or Congress person would help? JL >>

They can also search by his parents name. My mother born in 1934 was told she did not have a birth certificate on file under the name she gave them. I had them look for it using her parents names and they came back with her birth certificate. Why couldn't they find it under her name? Simple, the doctor never put it on the birth certificate. She was born in a tent on a farm outside of Sterling OK. A doctor came out from Lawton to attend the birth and left shortly afterwards. So you might try that route. Gene At 05:53 AM 7/9/02 -0400, you wrote: >All this info is very intriguing. I have tried to locate a birth certificate >for my adoptinve father who was born in Alva, OK I was told they couldn't >find any such person. i even gave them the correct date of birth. I'm not >sure if I gave them his correct name spelling, because he reversed his first >and middle names. > >Becky Milam Dreger >Fairview, OR > > >==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== >If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Oklahoma Cemetery >list, use >OK-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or >OK-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if >you are on the Digest list. >If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the >Oklahoma >Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html >Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website >http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Another thing to watch for on Birth Certificates: My father was registered as a GIRL. He didn't find out until he went to register for the draft in WWII. His mother had to have a new birth certificate made with witnesses as the doctor had died by that time. So, I have 2 birth certificates for my father, one as a girl and one as a boy. :-)) Lois in Auburn, CA

All this info is very intriguing. I have tried to locate a birth certificate for my adoptinve father who was born in Alva, OK I was told they couldn't find any such person. i even gave them the correct date of birth. I'm not sure if I gave them his correct name spelling, because he reversed his first and middle names. Becky Milam Dreger Fairview, OR

Dear List Members, Here it is the first of July and I am late in sending you the Second Quarterly Report. I was in Maryland and Delaware enjoying three of my children their spouses and five of my grandchildren for the 4th of July. Due to the lateness of this report I am not going to send the individual numbers of members for each of the lists I take care of. It is an all day job. If any of you really want to know how many are on your list, just e-mail me at KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net and ask. Be sure and let me know what list you are asking about. If you are interested in knowing about other mailing list out there, one of the very best inventories of genealogical mailing lists is John Fuller’s Genealogy Resources on the Internet located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html If you ever need to unsubscribe from this list or any rootsweb list all you need to do is visit Password Central located at http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ Follow the instructions and you will received an e-mail of all lists you belong to and from it you can unsubscribe from the ones you want to. Always know that I will be more than happy to help you if you are having problems unsubscribing, you only need to ask. Please send this request to KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net not to the entire list. If you would like to visit the Archived messages of this list, go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and type in the name of the list you would like to search and from there you can search by dates. There are a few items I would like to suggest for the benefit of each of us. 1. When sending a posting to the list it would help if you would put the subject of your posting in the subject line. Doing this also might give you a better chance to attract the attention of someone who has the information you are looking for or the attention of someone who is searching for the information you are posting. Many members are on many many lists and when they see a subject line that reads "My Ancestors" they just delete it. 2. If someone posts a message to the list that should not have been posted, please just delete it. Know that I am taking care of the problem. If you post your unhappiness, then you just continue on the problem. I know it is hard when your heart has been offended, but for my sake, and the sake of the list, please just delete it. Rootsweb has a wonderful Spam Detective and it stops most of it. You should see what comes across my screen. I have to look at each of them to make sure that what was stopped was truly Spam. Once in a while, one slips by though and if this happens, just delete it and go on with what we all love, genealogical research. 3. Please remember to delete the tags and un-needed words when you re-send a message to the list with your answer. If you don't check this, your responses can become quite large and may cause problems with some of our member's servers. This member who might not be able to receive your message because of its size, just might be your long lost second cousin with all the answers you are looking for. 4. The wonderful relationship that develops between list members is also one of a Mailing Lists Problems. I encourage you to respond to the entire list with genealogical responses, you never know who your response will help. In the same thought I would like to ask you to not respond to the entire list with personal responses. Such as, the first message from a member says "Happy Birthday Mary" and then Mary says "Thank you” and then about 60 of our members also send "Happy Birthday Mary". This is what I mean by personal messages. Just keep in mind anything is ok to be posted as long as it has to do with the subject of the list. I know there are exceptions to most rules including this one. If you have a doubt ask me. KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net 5. Remember to keep your Virus protection up to date and never open any attached file unless you are 100% sure what it is and even then you are taking a chance. 6. Now the hardest thing is when one of our own, a fellow member becomes upset about a posting, something I have done or not done. It is so hard not to jump in and add our two cents. I want you to know how much I appreciate it when you just let these posting go by and delete them. Know that I am behind the scenes taking care of the problem. If you ever have a concern that I might have missed a message that needs addressed you are welcome to contact me during the day at Kathleen.burnett@era.com or in the evenings at KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net. Please remember, so that this list is better for each of us, the posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc., in other words Spam is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact me at KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net I want to thank each of you for your continued support of me and your willingness to help make this list the success it is. It is your list and is here for your benefit. If you have suggestions or comments you would like in future reports, you only need to send them to me. Kathleen Burnett List Mom KathleenBurnett@earthlink.net

I am trying to locate the cemetery of my ggrandfather, Charles Walter Hodges d: Feb. 1929 in Tulsa, OK and his wife, Sarah Marie Hodges d: June 7, 1959 in Tulsa, OK. Sarah may be listed as Sara May Hodges. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks is advance - Margaret Pickens

Just wanted to let the listers know that I resubmitted the information on my grandfather, James Erwin Jones, along with his funeral records. I received his death certificate just yesterday. So, don't give up. If you have additional information, resubmit within their time limit for another search. Lois in Auburn, CA

This messages is being sent to a moderated list. You may respond to the list. Kathleen Burnett List Mom dennis whitaker wrote: dwhitaker@rectec.net > I am Sarah Frances Mercer's grandson I am searching for the grave of my grandmother I was told she was buried at Redfork now Clinton Oaks cemetery > I received her death certificate and it has Rose Hill does anyone out there know which cemetery that she's buried at I'd like to find out for sure. > Robert Whitaker bwhit592000@yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UQ.2ADI/328 Message Board Post: Does anyone know of a cemetery around the ghost town of Randolph, Ok.? My grandparents Henry Clay Massey, Annie May Massey Martin were buried there or around the town of Ravia, Okla. I have searched everywhere and cannot find out anything on them. She died in a hospital in Durant Okla. She died Nov. 18, 1933. He died in Ravia or around there Jan. 30, 1926. If anyone has anything at all please email me. Thanks

Dear List Members, I just wanted to remind you that your list is being moderated. There was a problem yesterday with one of our members and your list is one that this member belonged to. I have decided to moderate your list for at least another day. Do not worry. If you send a posting to the list, I will forward it on. It may take a little while due to the fact I am leaving for work. I will keep an eye on your list today from work and forward your messages as fast as I can. I am sorry to have had to do this, but felt it was the only way to protect the list and the membership from unwanted hate mail. I want each of you to know how much I appreciate your support and willingness to share with your fellow members, it is because of you that this list is the success it is. Kathleen Burnett List Mom

This message is being forwarded to the OK-Cemeteries Mailing List which is being moderated. You can either respond to the sender or to the list as usual. Kathleen Burnett List Mom Evelynne Ritter wrote: e.m.ritter@worldnet.att.net > I spoke with State Senator Frank Davis today. He told me that their is a > bill in the works that will make obtaining Birth-Marriage-Death certificates > harder in the state of Oklahoma. > > The run in most states today is to eliminate the Freedom of Information Act > sighting that "..terrorists will be able to acquire fake ID's, SS Cards, > etc." What a lot of bunk! Any criminal, with a PC, will be able to make > any ID he/she recquires and does not need to purchase a certificate through > "proper channels." > > As soon as Mr. Davis' secretary gets back with me about the Bill's Info, I > will let everyone know. We need to stop this desire by the states to close > our family history to us. > > Evelynne > Guthrie

This message is being forwarded to the OK-Cemeteries Mailing List which is being moderated. You can either respond to the sender or to the list as usual. Kathleen Burnett List Mom Lois wrote: ljfljf@PSYBER.COM > Any cemeteries you see listed on the Oklahoma Cemeteries web site have > been canvassed by volunteers. If you do not see a cemetery listed, it > is because no one has gone out to that cemetery to enumerate it. It > takes a lot of time to do each cemetery and there aren't enough > volunteers to do it. > > Lois in Auburn, CA

Dear List Members, I am at work and cannot allow this to continue without me being able to take care of the problem. This list has been changed to a moderated list. I will open it up again when I get home this even. I thank each of your for your support. I have been reading your messages and appreciate your thoughts. I will not let one person cause each of you this type of problem. Kathleen Burnett List Mom -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

This message is being forwarded to the OK-Cemeteries Mailing List which is being moderated. You can either respond to the sender or to the list as usual. Kathleen Burnett List Mom Peggy Mullenaux wrote: PJWinters37_2@webtv.net > I have ancestors buried there and have been there. However, I do not see > it listed in Garvin or Grady County. Can you help? > > Best Regards, > Peggy Joan Winters Mullenaux > Mother: Lindsey/Davis/Stephens/Franks > Father: Winters/Daniels/Garner/Welch > P O Box 682 > La Habra, CA, 90633-0682

I certainly hope this author is not ORDERING me to do anything. That would really irritate me. I'm not inthe military and to my knowledge, we don't yet live in a police state. I'd really not appreciate it if someone actually thought they were entitled to tell me, or any other list member what to do. I don't know who the "everyone" is/are who gripe about things "online". Perhaps I've missed a lot of the recent posts to this mailing list. I don't remember anyone griping about the FGS or other websites. As for the real issue here. I told the person who posted her original website ad, weeks ago, that if she persisted in advertising the site, without warning peope that you would need to re-enter FGS data, I would "call her on it". In case there was any doubt, THAT is what occurred. No one was complaining about the functionality of the website; simply stating HOW it functioned. Those of us who do not have the time, will simply not use it. However, it's a shame to waste the valuable time of gene. researchers, by not warning them, ahead of time. IMHO, that is now done, so this matter should be at an end. (unless you've got some more "orders" for some of us) :-) acp PS -- you don't unsub from the FGS website, so I can't imagine what that comment meant. You can unsub from mailing lists and newsgroups, though. --------- Ann Weber wrote: > > Collene, > > If it's not a ' big deal' as you say, then drop it! If you are not happy > with a site, don't use it but you do not need to complain online. We ALL are > busy people including the retired with responsibilities but yet find time to > do what we enjoy...family research. > Personally I am getting very tired of hearing everyone gripe about something > online. These sites are for sharing information, not to air all your > complaints. They have been very helpful to my research and if they were not, > I would simply unsubscribe without any further comment. Can you not do the > same??? > Ann Weber > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Collene Pearce" <collene@jump.net> > To: <OK-CEMETERIES-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:05 PM > Subject: Re: OK FGS website, was: Re: [OK-CEM] Oklahoma Research > > > > > "kathleenburnett@earthlink.net" wrote: > > > Collene first contacted me with dissatisfaction with the FGS site > because > she could not or did not want to type in her information > > > > This is perfectly true. I seem to remember saying that the > > design of the site made it useful only for people who have > > all the time in the world -- or something similar. I believe > > I suggested that when you were advertising the site, it would > > be beneficial if you'd let people know, up front, that they > > would need to re-enter all their FGS data, in order to use it. > > > > I believe, when you objected to that, I said something about the fact > > that I'm very willing to share gene. data, which may or may not be > > useful to others and MIGHT be viewed sometime, but not when it takes > > an extrodinary amount of time away from my research, my job, my > > homelife, > > my other hobbies and interests. > > I believe I told you there was no point in chastizing me for my > > opinion. I, for one, will simply not be using your sight, but I'm > > sure there are many, who have the time and priority, who will. > > > > I believe I implied that it was not necessary to create a vendetta, > > simply because I don't like or approve of your site or the manner in > > which you advertise it. It really is NOT that big an issue. > > > > >and wanted us to redesign the site so all she and other researchers > > >would have to do is upload. > > > > I NEVER asked you to redesign the site for me or anyone else. > > I didn't even suggest it. However, I did tell you, in my > > professional opinion, that NOT designing it so that people could > > upload, is basically poor design. > > > > I also noted that I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, by > > assuming you did not have the expertise to create a more robust site > > and so were doing the best you could, with the resources and expertise > > you had. So, with that in mind, I believe I reiterated that you should > > let people know, so they would not be disappointed, as I had been > > and as the other "visitors", who had contacted me about it, were. > > > > And I believe I reiterated that it was NOT a crime to lack the > > expertise to create (what I consider) a universally useful website, > > so it makes no sense (to me) to be so defensive about it. The site > > is not something I can use, or that many people, can use, but there > > are many people who will love it and use it. It's not necessary > > for EVERYONE to like it. It's not a reflection on you, so it > > makes no sense for you to take it so personally. > > > > To those who want to use it -- I applaud you. To those who don't, > > so what. To me, it's that simple and really has nothing to do > > with the author. I would suggest a bit more data be included, > > in the advertising of the site. Some of us, who have full time > > jobs, multiple hobbies and responsibilities, were very disappointed, > > once we visited the site. > > > > Now, add to this, the fact that around the same time this site was > > instroduced, some of the existing OK county sites were "re-adopte" > > and much of the data we had uploaded to those sites was removed. > > I'm just a bit more selective in where I spend my time, sharing data, > > than I have been in the past. > > > > Now -- since it was suggested in your earlier messages -- > > Please do not assume we, who are short of time, would browse > > the site to use the info, without taking the time to add our own > > data. I don't think that would be at all fair (kind of like > > "now, who will eat this porridge"), so for me, personally, I > > promise, until I have time to reenter all my FGS data manually, > > I won't look at any of the existing data on your site. So, > > please do not worry about that. > > > > :-) > > acp > > ------- > > > > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > > If you wish to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the Oklahoma Cemetery > list, use > > OK-CEMETERIES-l-request@rootsweb.com or > OK-CEMETERIES-d-request@rootsweb.com if > > you are on the Digest list. > > If your Ancestors migrated to or through Oklahoma - register them on the > Oklahoma > > Migration Page http://oklahomamigration.homestead.com/OMIndex.html > > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website > http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- :-) acp ******** "Too many stupid people. Too few comets." ******** ******************************************************************** * A. Collene Pearce * collene@jump.net * www.jump.net/~collene * ********************************************************************

I guess that depends on the type of books you are used to reading. I beleive a novel used to be considerd 5000 words. Since I usually read non-fiction, the books are usually larger. acp Judy wrote: > > You are right, some have one opinion and some have another, but I am > confused here. For someone who has so little time, did I not just read > a book? > > ==== OK-CEMETERIES Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, > etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > Oklahoma Cemeteries Volunteer Website http://www.rootsweb.com/~okcemete/okcem.htm > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- :-) acp ******** "Too many stupid people. Too few comets." ******** ******************************************************************** * A. Collene Pearce * collene@jump.net * www.jump.net/~collene * ********************************************************************