Gene, I got the pages for the 1870 and 1880 census Thank You !!!! that does make much more sense, and it concludes that Joseph Robert Sr.and Susannah either died between, 1870-80 and moved somewhere to live with another child possibly, and it must have been out of the Wood Co. area 1880 the younger Joseph Roberts in Liberty Twp. is possibly a grandson, son of Benjamin Roberts Thanks, Sharon