--part1_8.d4b7f34.276393d1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_8.d4b7f34.276393d1_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <DJKy@aol.com> From: DJKy@aol.com Full-name: DJKy Message-ID: <32.d8df74d.2761b1f3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 22:39:31 EST Subject: Fwd: To: cbell1@ilstu.edu., Teripjb@mindspring.com, Ccc40514@aol.com, c.r.dills@juno.com., sam2290@hotmail.com, hvrigney@Yahoo.Com., AvaTaylor@ AOL.Com., Lbwiese@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_8.d4b7f34.2761b1f3_boundary" X-Mailer: Unknown sub 171 --part2_8.d4b7f34.2761b1f3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part2_8.d4b7f34.2761b1f3_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <vgsmit00@pop.uky.edu> Received: from rly-yg05.mx.aol.com (rly-yg05.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.5]) by air-yg05.mail.aol.com (v77.14) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Dec 2000 09:00:17 -0500 Received: from smtp.uky.edu (smtp.uky.edu [128.163.2.17]) by rly-yg05.mx.aol.com (v77.27) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Dec 2000 08:59:56 -0500 Received: from pop.uky.edu (pop.uky.edu [128.163.2.16]) by smtp.uky.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21429 for <djky@aol.com>; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 08:59:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from Vsmith ([128.163.22.95]) by pop.uky.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA28709 for <djky@aol.com>; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 08:59:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20001207101621.00832100@pop.uky.edu> X-Sender: vgsmit00@pop.uky.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 10:16:21 -0500 To: djky@aol.com From: "Virginia G. Smith" <vgsmit00@pop.uky.edu> Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >X-Sender: clferg00@pop.uky.edu >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) >Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 09:53:53 -0500 >To: vgsmit00@pop.uky.edu >From: "Catherine L. Ferguson" <clferg00@pop.uky.edu> >Subject:=20 >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pop.uky.edu id IAA09168 > >> >><< Christmas Traditions >> > >> > >> >One particular Christmas season a long time ago, Santa was getting? >> >Ready for his annual trip ... but there were problems everywhere. Four >> >of his >> >elves got sick, and the trainee elves did not produce the toys as fast >> >as the regular ones so Santa was beginning to feel the pressure of being >> >behind schedule. >> > >> >Then Mrs. Claus told Santa that her mom was coming to visit. This >> >stressed >> >Santa even more. When he went to harness the reindeer, he found that >> >three >> >of them were about to give birth and two had jumped the fence and were >> >out, >> >heaven knows where. More stress. Then when he began to load the >> >sleigh, >> >one of the boards cracked and the toy bag fell to the ground =85=85=85. >> >scattering >> >the toys. >> > >> >With his temper almost beyond control, Santa went into the house for a >> >cup of coffee and a shot of whiskey. >> > >> >When he went to the cupboard, he discovered that the elves had hid the >> >liquor and there was nothing to drink. In his frustration, he >> >accidentally dropped the coffee pot and it broke into hundreds of little >> >pieces all over the kitchen floor. He went to get the broom and found >> >that mice had eaten the straw it was made from. >> > >> >Just then the doorbell rang and Santa cussed on his way to the door. He >> >opened the door and there was a little angel with a great big Christmas >> >tree. The angel said, very cheerfully, "Merry Christmas Santa. Isn't >> >it just a lovely day? I have a beautiful tree for you. Isn't it just >> >the most lovely tree?? Where would you like me to stick it?" >> > >> >Thus, began the tradition of the little angel on top of the Christmas

I am trying to research my gggrandmother Charlotte Doel Battrick. I have recently found out that Charlotte came to America in 1853 with her sister Eliza Ann Doel Pierce(b.June 10, 1824). Eliza Pierce came to America with her baby Eliza. The information that I have indicates that the baby Eliza Pierce married Charles Holt and lived in Toledo, Ohio. I am hoping that someone on this list can help me with the Doel family that came from Bere Regis, England through the perhaps the Holt family. I know it is a "long shot" but I would like to research the Doel family as far back as I can. Thanks, Jim Taylor of Warren, Ohio

Melinda McAuley (Metcalf) (Van Valkenburg) birth date probably about 1806. NY? d. 28 Feb. 1875, Washington Twp., Wood Co., OH Married John Van Valkenburg(h) (m. Melinda Metcalf) he was b. 4 Oct 1802 (chr 30 Jan 1803 DRC Kinderhook, NY) They had a son born, and, baptized in the DRC,1829 Kinderhook, Columbia, NY Baptismal records show Melinda Mc Auley as mother. John Mc Auley Van Valkenburg, (m. Minerva Steele) b. 26 Aug 1829 Kinderhook, Columbia, NY d. 19 Sept 1912 Buckland, Franklin, MA There were 10 other siblings that went with John & Melinda to Ohio, mine (above) did not, he went east to MA as they went west to OH circa 1850. Melinda's name has been recorded as Melinda and sometimes as Lucinda. Perhaps it was Lucinda Melinda / Melinda Lucinda or that Lucinda was a natural mistake for Melinda by census takers of Ministers. Anyone with any further information, connections, or clarifications? Sue Downhill sudown@cwnet.com

Surnames: STAFFINGER PIKE THOMPSON Submitter: Anntoni L. Thompson-Jaworski (smartybell@aol.com) Date: 06 Dec 2000 I am looking for information pertaining to the STAFFINGER family. My grandmother Jessie Amanda (STAFFINGER)Thompson was born in Welbridge 1900 to Fitch Herbert and Mary (Pike) STAFFINGER. There could be a different spelling to this name but I am not sure what it would be. I would appreciate any information that anyone might know about. I did inquire with the courthouse for my grandmother's birth certificate and they said there was none for Jessie. Thank you in advance. Toni smartybell@aol.com

Thank you. He would enjoy hearing from some of his old friends if any would care to correspond. He graduated from hi school in 1952. Do you by any chance subscribe to "Bend in the River" magazine. Many time they have an article about old time Holland. Bob & Marian Gall on the Arizona desert Stick an orchid in your hat and be happy gall@primenet.com

Marian, I will take this email to the meeting to snow them. Nance

I would love to come but, since we live in Arizona, it is a bit of a jaunt. My husband, Bill Gall, was born and raised in Holland. His dad was on the city council for a few years. The family lived on Kipling Drive I have heard many stories of Holland during our married live. Lots of them centered around the Lone Pine and the high school. Bob & Marian Gall on the Arizona desert Stick an orchid in your hat and be happy gall@primenet.com

Don, Here is his address Richard S. Friedmar 7445 Airport Hwy Holland, Ohio 43528 865-1251 Until you mentioned him, I didnt know he was there. This is halfway between where I live and the expressway 23. Nance

Hi Nance, Sorry that I will not be able to come to the party. I am in Florida. However, I am interested in the FRIEDMAR's. Richard S. Friedmar is an attorney in Holland. His father, Irwin Friedmar married my cousin, Geneva Jane FIRSDON. Richard has given me all of the information that he knows but I still want more FRIEDMAR history. Do you have any suggestions??? Cheers.............Don Firsdon.

I would like to invite you all to the Holland-Springfield-Spencer Historical Society Christmas party and auction. bring yourselves, a white elephant gift to be auctioned off, a plate of Christmas cookies or a 2 liter bottle of pop Thursday December 14th 7:30 pm at Providence Lutheran Church 8131 Airport Highway Holland, Ohio The map to the church is at <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4091/society.htm"> Holland-Springfield-Spencer Historical Society</A> under the title of the page. Nance

Hi Margaret - As I said back on 10 Nov , I would check further with another later index of deaths in Wood County. This I did, but still was not able to come up with anything for you on an Elizabeth Dye. Sorry - Gene WCOGS Volunteer #503 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Margral5@aol.com> To: <OHWOOD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 9:55 PM Subject: [OHWOOD] Elizabeth Fredricka Reugger Behner Dye > Hello, > I am searching for information on ELIZABETH FREDRICKA REUGGER BEHNER DYE. > I believe she may have died in 1924 and lived in Milbury. Her sister, > Sophia PFEIFFER died at her home Sept 27, 1912 but was buried in Belden, OH, > her home town. Elizabeth was first married to FREDERICK BEHNER and they had > the following children: Edwin W., Clara E., and Frederick G. Elizabeth > married 2nd ?? DYE. They had children, names unknown. > > If anyone can give me any information on Elizabeth and her family I would > appreciate it - She was the sister to my great-great-grandmother - Sophia > Reugger Pfeiffer. > > Margaret

Thanks for checking - I appreciate the effort\Margaret

Thank You, Dusty, for the information concerning bounty lands. It explains why they sometimes are not found. Dorris

Dusti, Thank you for the excellent discription on how bouty lands were acquired. It was most informative and worth copying for my files. Beverly Life member #77 >Dorris, > ><< Can anyone tell me the starting date at which Bounty Land certs. were >given for Rev. War service? >> > >I cannot tell you exactly WHAT the starting date is of Bounty Lands. BUT it >was one of the early and pressing items of business of the new government. I >can also tell you a few things about the giving of Bounty Lands............. .............Hope this gives you a broad picture of the system. > >Dusti

Hello List! New subscriber posting newly found roots in Bowling Green area: Gx2 Grandparents: Josiah and Sophia TURNEY-WINTON, married Jan 16, 1880 in Wood Co. and Horseradish Dealer by trade. They had two daughters, Ruth (my Grandmother) b......... and Dora b.?...... Josiah WINTON was born in 1856 and died Dec 24, 1904. Josiah had one brother Eli WINTON of Bowling Green and one sister, Mrs. FOX of Erie Co. Josiah ALSO HAD two half-brothers, George and Judd SMITH of Union Hill.

Dorris, << Can anyone tell me the starting date at which Bounty Land certs. were given for Rev. War service?  >> I cannot tell you exactly WHAT the starting date is of Bounty Lands. BUT it was one of the early and pressing items of business of the new government. I can also tell you a few things about the giving of Bounty Lands. First the newly formed American government did not have money to pay its soldiers [thus the pressing business], so the granting of land was devised as a means of payment by the American government for those who served in the Continental Line -- or gave service to the American government [there were women who provided services --- remember Molly PITCHER?]. I'm not sure of the criteria [length of service], but there had to be verification of service. AND just because a soldier received a land grant, did not mean that he claimed the land/or HAD to claim the land. He could [and some did] use it as a means to barter for flour, salt, blankets, and other pressing needs. [By the time the War of 1812 occurred, and payment for service was made in the same manner, bartering the grant was no longer an option.] Land available for claim was what was considered "public lands" or lands deemed owned by the U. S. Government. Second, some of the newly formed states paid its men [and women] who served in the state's militia with lands that particularly state claimed ownership thru the charters or grants given by the crown. If you take a look at maps that show the U. S. from the Atlantic Ocean to the Mississippi River [between 1787 and 1820] and more particularly what is now Kentucky, Tennessee, the Old Northwest Territory you will have a fair idea of the land available for settling. Early maps of Ohio show some specific areas: the U. S. Military District, the Virginia Military District and the Western Reserve. The U. S. Military District, like Kentucky and Tennessee, was land available to the Soldier who served on the Continental line. The Western Reserve and the Virginia Military District in Ohio were lands held back [as they claimed ownership] by Connecticut and Virginia and used by them to pay soldiers who had fought in the Revolution but in its states' Militia. Massachusetts had Maine to pay its militia. Claiming acreage was a long process. The soldier had to go find the piece he wanted and stake it out, go back "home" to give the location to the surveyor so he could go survey it, and when the Surveyor had done that and recorded it with the land office the deed was issued. Then the soldier would have to make provisions for traveling and moving his family to the new location with people he knew and trusted, and then build a cabin for the family. It took months, even years. It was not unusual in Kentucky and Tennessee for a family to be all settled in their new home [or arrive at the location] only to have someone else show up with title to the same parcel of land. This was not due to fraud but the extreme length of time involved in the process. Consequently, a lot of those with disputed land ownership [or "bad title"] left the state and went to OH, IN, or TX where they knew the land title was good. Hope this gives you a broad picture of the system. Dusti

Good Question, would like to know the answer to that one too! Kim Pennock smyrnami@pathwaynet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <DorrisL1@aol.com> To: <OHWOOD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 8:41 PM Subject: [OHWOOD] Bounty Land > Can anyone tell me the starting date at which Bounty Land certs. were given > for Rev. War service? Also, did everyone that served receive one? > Thank you. > Dorris >

Hi folks, Happy Holidays! Scanned Josiah ELDER's death certificate from Petersburg, Monroe Co MI, and posted to a webpage, with a transcription: http://www.teleport.com/~nancyp/elder/JosiahDCert.htm **** Josiah M. ELDER [1st wife: Emily Amelia Trombley, d. 1889] HOME Certificate of Death, December 23, 1931 Petersburg, Monroe County, Michigan Age 83 years, 11 months 23 days Date of birth: Jan 1, 1848 Wife: Mary A. ELDER [2nd wife: Mary Ann (Lister)(Bonney) ELDER] Trade: Clothier Last worked at this occupation: 8 years Birthplace: Portage, Ohio [Wood County, Ohio] Father: John ELDER Birthplace: Penn. Mother: Mary MOREHOUSE Birthplace: Portage, Ohio Burial: Petersburg, MI [Pleasant View Cemetery, Civil War marker] -- Nancy Elder Petersen, Library Internet volunteer Vancouver, Washington, USA http://www.teleport.com/~nancyp/elder.htm

Can anyone tell me the starting date at which Bounty Land certs. were given for Rev. War service? Also, did everyone that served receive one? Thank you. Dorris

Hi Judy, Thanks for the info. That was very fast. One way to back up your file is to put it on another computer. You would be welcome to store it on mine. If I get short on memory I can put things on my Superdisk. They look just like 3œ" disks but hold 120MB. I put either kind of disks in the same drive slot. I regularly update my backup. Can I send you any parts, or all, of my files to help you get restored??? I have 4900 names. Don Firsdon