Fellow members I have in my possession a copy of the secretarial book for the Salem Church in Madisonburg, 1857 which was a Reformed German Congregation. Here are a few of the names listed ther-in: John Sonnedecker, Jacob Stair, Andrew Kintner, Jacob Green,Thall Grustey ?, Henry Kramer, Jepiah Mower?, Jacob Truce, Henry Kramer, Jacob Ihrig, Daiid Lehman, Jacob Billman,Lenard Smith, Andrew Sonnedecker, David Billman, Jacob Dague, Abraham Fred Briner, John Lehman, Samuel Zimmerman,Andrew Bucher, ? Gilbert, JOhn Bresler, David, Marty, Daniel Stout, Michael ?ertig, These names appeared in May of 1852 June 15, 1859: Jacob Irig, Henry Kintner, David S. Statz, Jacob Stair, Jr. Jacob Stair, Henry Kremer 1861: David Lehman, David S. Staltz?, Jacob Stair, John Lehman, Jacob Irig, David? Nov 1862 $2.56 to Jacob Otto for delivering 22 2/3 bushels of coal at 12 cents a bushel. May 25, 1863 Henry Kramer, David Sheicher? David Lehman 1865 M. M. France Chairman 1866 Adam Schaaf William O. Frances? or France 1867 Those who gave money and the amount for a cabinet organ: Jacob Irig 10.00 David S. Maltz or Altz 10.00 Adam Schaaf 5.00 Philip Cappas? 5.00 Andrew Sonnedecker 10.00 Jacob Dague 5.00 Andrew Kintner 10.00 Joel Gaul 5.oo Daniel Bainer 5.oo John Lehman 10.00 David Lehman 10.00 Samuel Zimmerman 7.00 Jacob Stair 5.00 George L. Frederick 2.00 Peter M. Matz 2.00 Albert Miller 10.00 Michael M. Miller 5.00 Christian Wicks 3.00 George Hoff 2.00 Jacob B. Kintner 5.00 Jcob Stair Sr. 3.00 Henry Sonnedecker 5.00 Jacob Maltz 3.00 Jacob Stahl 4.00 C.E. Gnacten?? 1.00 David Speicher? 4.00 Levi Speichet? 2.00 Daniel Stout 3.00 S. A?. Stout 1.00 Mary Stout 1.00 D. S. Stout 1.00 Buss? E. Stout 1.00 Frederick Bainer 5.00 Mary Bainer 1.00 Joseph Showalter 3.00 Barbara Hoff /showlater 1.00 Daniel Treaster? 2.00 Barbara Miller 1.00 Frederick Miller 1.00 If you reconize any of these names email me and I will see what office they held in this church. Linda Hoff Simons

I'm interested in linking Christopher Eyman (c.1825- ) of Harrisville Township (Lodi, Spencer), Medina (in 1870 census) to the Wayne County Eyman families also from PA. Looking this up for a friend in Iowa. Al Dawson, Berea, Ohio - MA, History, UNC-Chapel Hill, 1973. My Webpage: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/d/a/w/Al--Dawson/ Surnames include ("Mary and John" passengers) GRANT, GILLETT, WOLCOTT, PHELPS, GRISWOLD, HOLCOMBE, FORD, COOK, CHARD ("Mayflower") FRANCIS COOKE, STEPHEN HOPKINS, JOHN ALDEN PRISCILLA MULLINS, THOMAS ROGERS and WILLIAM BRADFORD Al is a daily pilgrim to http://www.thehungersite.com/ - every click helps :) AND Proud member IBSSG- see http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~blksheep/

This is a test to see if my command changes work. Please just delete it. Terry R. McGuire

In a message dated 01-03-06 17:10:56 EST, you write: << A suggestion for the list owner - would it be possible to include the (OHWAYNE) in the subject line - This is most helpful when one receives several e-mails a day What do others think of this - let the list owner know. Marge >> ---------------------------------- RE: SUBJECT LINE...... I agree with this idea, as I receive as many as 50 and more e-mails daily from the lists I subscribe to and do look-ups for. It would be a big help !!! Timesaver to me.... And we could worry less about virus infection or kak worm infestations. Cheers, Diane G.

A suggestion for the list owner - would it be possible to include the ( OHWAYNE) in the subject line - This is most helpful when one receives several e-mails a day What do others think of this - let the list owner know. Marge

According to Wayne Co. marriage records Maria JONES married George LISOR, 2 Jan 1817. So far I have been unable to determine which JONES family Mary/Maria belongs to. If anyone on the list has info/insight into the Jones families of Wayne Co. (probably in the area around Wooster), I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks in advance. Lois _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Hi ! I am wondering if anyone has access to the 1860 OHIO , Wayne county census ! I am desperatlt seeking my ggggrandfather James GRAY m. Magdalene (Edwards) children Cyrus, Alexander and Sarah ! Thank you in advance for any help with my BRICK wall ! Sandra GRAY Page

In Deed Book 1, p. 141 is the following: "William Henry and wife to John Bauman and Geo Lisor" "... William Henry and Abagail Henry his wife of the County of Stark in the State of Ohio for ... the sum of ... paid by John Bowman and George Lizer of Stark county and State of Ohio ... lots in the Town of Wooster numbered" (183-188), etc. George Lisor, my gg-gfather, originally came from somewhere in PA, and, by 1817, was living in Wayne Co. I have as yet been unable to determine where in PA he was from, so thought it might be helpful to learn John Bowman's place of origin, in the event that they both might have come from the same area in PA before going to Stark Co. Is there anyone out there with info on John Bowman? Also, after whom is Bowman St. in Wooster named? Thanks in advance for your assistance. Lois in Vancouver _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

Below are six learning opportunities in the Pittsburgh, PA Metro area and Akron, OH. SATURDAY, MARCH 10, 2001, 10 a.m., WPGS meeting Western PA Genealogical Society monthly meetings are free and open to the public and held in the Lecture Hall of the Carnegie Library/Museum, 4400 Forbes Ave., Pittsburgh, PA 15213. "Messages From the Grave: Listening to Your Ancestor's Tombstone" will be presented by Elissa Scalise Powell, CGRS. In order to find an ancestor’s tombstone, the burial ground must first be found. Tips are given on how to find the different cemeteries depending on the time period, type (church or commercial), and economic condition of the deceased. Tombstones are the last monuments to our lives on this earth. In their shape and inscribed symbols, they can speak of the lifestyle of the deceased or the attitude of death of the loved ones left behind. They are being destroyed by many factors, which make them illegible or eradicate them altogether. Abandoned and “lost” cemeteries can be found through records and natural signs. Discussion includes ways to read “illegible” stones, which may be the last time a person may hear the tombstone “speak.” This colorful slide lecture illustrates these techniques and shows what problems are encountered in reading a variety of markers and what might be done to overcome them. Internet sources and resources are also discussed throughout the lecture. For any questions, you may call the society's answering machine at (412) 687-6811. _________________________________________________ TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2001, 7 p.m. NORTH HILLS GENEALOGISTS “For Lands Sake! What You Always Wanted to Know About Pennsylvania’s Land Records” will be presented by guest speaker Jean S. Morris at the 7:00 p.m. Tuesday, March 20, 2001, meeting of the North Hills Genealogists in the Northland Public Library, 300 Cumberland Road, McCandless Township, Pittsburgh, PA Ms. Morris will discuss land purchases from the Indians which opened settlement areas beginning with the formation of the Colony in 1681; the land application/warrant/ survey/patent system and how it works; the East and West Side Surveys; land certificates given to Pennsylvania's Revolutionary soldiers; a short overview of our Border Controversies with MD, CT & VA; land records/deeds at the county level after that first purchase; what records are held in the Recorder of Deeds offices at the court house; and many maps which illustrate those topics. Jean S. Morris, a professional genealogist since 1969; is editor of the WPGS Quarterly Magazine and a researcher for clients all over the country. The meeting is free and open to the public. _________________________________________________ SATURDAY, MARCH 31, 2001 SLIPPERY ROCK HERITAGE ASSOCIATION - 13th Annual Genealogical Workshop at Slippery Rock University Union Building, Slippery Rock, PA 16057 **** PLEASE NOTE CHANGE OF SPEAKER AND TOPICS FOR THIS EVENT ******* 8:30AM - REGISTRATION (juice, cookies) 9:00 am Welcome - Helen Staiger, Workshop Chair Noon Buffet Lunch (pre-registration only), door prizes, vendor or library break 4:00 pm Close of workshop Speaker: Carrie W. Eldridge - local, regional, and national speaker as a result of her lively interest in history, geography , genealogy and people. Carrie is a product of Appalachia and for the last twenty-five years has authored forty books and maps dealing with local and regional history and geography. Carrie has taught school in both West Virginia and Ohio. She is a consultant for local history projects, former editor of West Virginia's MINING YOUR HISTORY FOUNDATION's newsletter Mountain News, and has received nationwide recognition for her various contributions of publishing county record abstracts, maps, gazetteers, migration atlases, census records, and Cabell County Cemeteries volumes. Program: WESTWARD INTO WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA - Rugged terrain and a powerful Indian confederation delayed major settlement into western Pennsylvania until about 1800. European settlers were more apt to take the easy route down to Virginia or to seek new lands alongside the Ohio River. Locate the major travel routes and discover who created these trails. MAPS GALORE - Maps are one of the most effective and necessary tools in a historian's bag of tricks. The same should be true of all genealogists. Locate, choose and use the different types of maps available to discover unknown relatives and clues to if they would soon seek other lands. We'll take the mystery out of map reading by showing how anyone can make and use maps. FRONTIER AGRICULTURE: Papa Turned A Left Hand Furrow - To be listed as a "farmer" on any 19th Century census was considered the most successful a man could become. To understand what a farmer was and what he meant to the community is to understand who your ancestors were and what they did on a day to day basis. Learn about his tools, his animals, his land, his abilities and his ambitions. What was a "Left Hand Furrow?" Why did the children like the pig's tail? Do you really know your ancestors? LOCATING EXTINCT TOWNS: Where to Look - Why you should - Many researchers know everything about their ancestor except where he lived because the location is not on current maps. What is an extinct town? When and why did it become extinct? Where could it be located? We'll discuss this and methods for locating and identifying lost communities using maps, court records and local histories. SOURCES THAT HIDE: Finding And Using Odd Records - Are you stuck? Then it's time to research little known and less often used sources. A multitude of information has been recorded, but it's not all in the Court House. Produce results by trying other avenues of research: Special Collections, Personal Records, Diaries, and little used Public Records such as Pay Rosters and Stray Records. ALSO AVAILABLE: Photographer to copy your old photos from 9am-noon (deposit required) LDS computer database search; SRU Library research; vendors Registration: $28.00 (includes buffet lunch - must be postmarked by March 22) POSTMARK AFTER MARCH 22, OR AT DOOR: $28.00 (lunch on your own - local restaurant map available) ________________________________ MONDAY, APRIL 16, 2001, 7:30 p.m. JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY at the Jewish Community Center, 5738 Darlington Road, Squirrel Hill, Pittsburgh, PA. Free and open to the public. "Walking Aroung the Neighborhood with the Census Taker: Why did he always miss my ancestor?" will be presented by Elissa Scalise Powell, CGRS. The Federal Census is a wonderful and basic tool for genealogists, after vital records, but finding the ancestor can be a challenge. This lecture shows what type of information is on each census and gives the tools for gaining access to the information. Techniques, aside from indices, will also be shown to help the researcher through some of the pitfalls of the records. Internet sources and resources will be discussed. The 1930 census (due for public release on 1 April 2002) will also be discussed. ________________________________ TUESDAY, APRIL 17, 2001, 7 p.m. NORTH HILLS GENEALOGISTS "Irish and Scotch (sic) - Irish Ancestors" will be presented by guest speaker Mr. Jim Sterrett at the 7:00 p.m. Tuesday, April 17, 2001, meeting of the North Hills Genealogists in the Northland Public Library, 300 Cumberland Road, McCandless Township, Pittsburgh, PA The meeting is free and open to the public. More details will follow later. _____________________________ FRIDAY, APRIL 27 and SATURDAY, APRIL 28 OHIO GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY Annual Conference in Akron, OH at the Hilton Hotel Akron/Fairlawn 43 sessions to choose from over the 2 days with topics on Computers and Software, How to Begin, Federal resources, Health History, Military Records, Austro-Hungarian Empire, Church Records, British Isles Research, German Research, Criminal Records, Probate, Irish Records, African-American Research, West Virginia Research, Maps, just to name a few. Many vendors representing genealogical book and CD companies, as well as Ohio Counties will be there. Please see www.ogs.org for more information on how to register. Reduced advanced registration before April 2, 2001. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Oh My! I meant I want to especially thank Linda. Hal

I want to post these very helpful replies on the Wayne County list - I just subscribed - I am a Buckeye turned Tar Heel - and I want to say thanks to the friendly people on this list - and Linda too. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Matter Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 21:22:48 -0500 From: Arthur H Laube <zurlauben@mindspring.com> To: Joy Wengerd <jwengerd@valkyrie.net>, PACUMBER <PACUMBER-D@rootsweb.com>, Matter <MATTER-D@rootsweb.com> References: <008601c0a5e0$6bfa5880$9dd61cd8@jwengerd> Joy Wengerd wrote: > Hello Hal, > > I saw your query about Emmanuel Matter of Wayne County. Joy, I will explain for the Matter list where I am posting your reply: I simply asked about Emmanuel Matter who appears in the 1850 Index of Paint Township, Wayne County, Ohio. I have never found but one Emmanuel(it dosen't matter how you spell it - only one and hea has was born in 1830, the son of George Mater, of Cumberland County.) There is also an Emmanuel Mateer in a boardinghouse in Wooster, Wayne County seat, in the same 1850 census. > While I am not researching the Matter name, I do have an Emanuel Matter listed in my > records, as being married to a member of the Guerne family of Paint Twp. > > I really have not checked the 1860 or 1870 census records, burial > records, etc. for this name, and do not know what his age might have > been. I could easily check the census records and the burial records if > you are interested. > > Emanuel Matter married Feb. 13, 1873 to Julie Matilde Nicot, b. 12 Jan. > 1853, d. 21 Feb. 1874 in Paint Twp. She died 5 days after the birth of > their son, Edward Matter. Julie Matilde was the daughter of Felix and > Marianne (Guerne) Nicot. Marianne was a sister of my g-grandmother. > > In Paint Twp., the name is still pronounced "Motter". > > > There are a number of other Matter names in the Mt. Eaton church > records, if you are interested (none are Emanuel). The Matter list may be interested - I will let them answer. > > Many in this community were French-speaking, emigrating from Switzerland > to Ohio in the 1800's. > > > I am thinking that there is a building on the campus of the College of > Wooster that is named Mateer Hall, but I am not sure. > > Joy Wengerd > > Joy I have no idea where this is going but I want to thank you for coming forth with this information - it was very good of you to take the time. As you may know the 1860 Ohio census records are not so easy to get at. They are not indexed. I would greatly appreciate it if you would check both the 1860 and the 1870 records. I am so pleased to hear from you - thanks again. best regards Hal.

Does anyone on the list have access to the "Lozier Family: Ancestors and Descendants of Christopher Lozier of Wayne Co., OH" ? I received my Wayne Ancestors Newsletter today and read that this book was donated to the Wayne Co. Genealogical Society. I have a Hannah BURGAN that married David Losure on 8 Jun 1820 in Wayne Co., OH and have wondered if they were somehow connected to the LOZIER family. Kitty Bryan Matter **researching: BURGAN, BURWELL, LOSURE BLEEKS in Wayne Co., OH**

Susie, I do _not_ see any burials in any of the old Smithville cemeteries for the surnames Yager/Yeager. Per the Wayne County Burial Book. This is not saying that they are not buried there as most were tombstone reading that were recorded. The Index to Marriages of Wayne County, Ohio 1813-1898 has this this listing. Yager, Henry m. Mary Musser 23 Sep 1848 vol. 4C pg. 109. The license does not have the return part completed, which means that 23 Sep 1848 may only be the date they applied. The 1850 Census notebook of Wayne County has this: Fam 121 Chester Township 335 YEAGER, Henry 22 Ohio stone mason, Mary 24 PA, Fyann E. 5/12 OH, also MUSSER, Mary 57 PA. >From the Wayne County Burial Book I see that the Fyann is buried in the Old Dutch Reformed or Old Congress Cemetery in Congress Township. Fyann d/o N & M Yeger 1y 5m 8-15-1851 Thats about all I can do, hope it helps. Bob Strock Susie Holderfield wrote: > > We are looking for the old cemetary in Smithville. Looking > for a grave of > Yager(Yeager) died in mid 1800's. Sons Henry, Franklin.Yager > who moved on > to Iowa. Do not know the first names of parents. Parents did > not go on to > Iowa. Henry married Mary Magdalene Musser of Pennsylvania and > they moved to > Iowa. Are there marriage records of Henry and Mary? Burial > of Yager. > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 -- Bob & Esther Strock, Dalton, OH. On the edge of Amish Country. Researching family history in Holmes, Medina, Stark, Summit, Wood, Wayne and other Counties of Ohio. Sponsor member of Rootsweb and listowner of Strock-L, Uhl-L, and Welday-L message lists. GenConnect Family Association boards: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Strock http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Uhl http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/w/e/WELDAY/queries

Bob Strock-Where can I find the books you mention in your response to Susie. Index of Marriages of Wayne County, 1850 Census Notebook of Wayne County and Wayne County Burial Book. I could sure use them. Donna California

We are looking for the old cemetary in Smithville. Looking for a grave of Yager(Yeager) died in mid 1800's. Sons Henry, Franklin.Yager who moved on to Iowa. Do not know the first names of parents. Parents did not go on to Iowa. Henry married Mary Magdalene Musser of Pennsylvania and they moved to Iowa. Are there marriage records of Henry and Mary? Burial of Yager.

I have several Bachtel relatives who purchased land at the Wooster land office in the early 1830's. Does this automatically mean that the land was actually in Wooster? Also, where would I need to write in order to get a copy of the land records? Thanks, Marilyn

One of my lines seem to change the spelling of their name every time they change location or get married. Matter/Motter/Maeder/Mater/Mateer/ and so on. My great-grandfather was born in Cumberland County PA from the above line. His father signed his will Mater. My great-grandfather came to Ohio and signed his name Mater on his marriage license in 1859 in Crawford County. In 1860 in Franklin County he was in the census as Mateer and later I have his signature and numerous court records and his death certificate - all Mateer. And I can prove that I am talking about the same man. In 1850 his brother Emmanuel is listed in Wooster in a boarding house in the Wayne County census index as Mateer. And there is another Emmanuel also in Palin Township,Wayne County in the same census index with the surname Matter. I am getting census details but Emmanuel is such an unusual name that I suspect this is the same man who got counted twice in the census. We have good reason to believe that he followed railroad construction from the Harrisburg, Pa area into Ohio. I believe the Pennsy was connecting into Ohio about then. Anyone researching in Wayne County happen to know anything about Emmanuel whatever, or the comming of the iron horse from PA? Hal

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Thomas NORRIS is enumerated in 1850 Williams Co., OH, St. Joseph Twp. census - age 38, with wife Nancy, age 33 - no children. He's brother of Noah NORRIS, buried in Kearns-Skelton Cemetery. Their mother, Margaret, widow of Joseph from Wayne Co., is also there. By 1860 Thomas NORRIS, age 49, and wife Amanda. age 20, are in Seward Twp., Kosciusko Co. IN census. This is the same man, but with a younger wife. Did 1st wife Nancy NORRIS die in Wayne Co.? Did Thomas remarry while still in Wayne Co. to Amanda? Any marriage info and death/burial lookup for Nancy and/or Amanda appreciated. Dave Norris in VA born Fulton Co., IN

Hi List Members, I would like to be in touch with Gellinger and Schmidt researchers to find a possible connection with my family. Cathy Martin ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.