Bob, I sure could use a tranlation if you don't mind. I'd like to see if you come up with what I think it says, but would like to be sure. Thanks for the help. Sandy

The Wayne Presbyterian Church and Cemetery are north of Wooster on Ohio 83. I do not know of a person to write too for info. From the Wayne County Burial Book. WINKLER, Fanny, died June 30, 1859 age 83y 7m 14d w/o Lawrence Winkler WINKLER, Lawrence, died Mar. 4, 1848 age 77y 1m 19d Bob Strock Sanddollar500@aol.com wrote: > > Can you tell me if there is a Wayne Presbysterian Cemetery and Church? > > Do they still exist and is there is an address to write to for infomation on > records on families that are buried there and went to church there? > > At a brick wall with the Fanny & Lawrence Winkler families who are suppose to > be buried there. > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp -- Bob & Esther Strock, Dalton, OH. On the edge of Amish Country. Researching family history in Holmes, Medina, Stark, Summit, Wood, Wayne and other Counties of Ohio. Strack, Strock, Uhl, and Welday RootsWeb boards and message lists.

Can anyone tell me if this is still in existence today? Can anyone tell me if there is an address to write to, to inquire about a Winkler family buried there? Any info would be deeply appreciated. At a brick wall. There is suppose to be a Mary Winkler and many more in a family moument there. Thanks and have a great Labor Day Weekend! Sandy in VA

Can you tell me if there is a Wayne Presbysterian Cemetery and Church? Do they still exist and is there is an address to write to for infomation on records on families that are buried there and went to church there? At a brick wall with the Fanny & Lawrence Winkler families who are suppose to be buried there.

Sandy, From: Will Abstracts, Estates and Guardianships Wayne County, Ohio 1812-1851 by Richard Smith. A publication of the WCGS. Mr. Smith had a way of putting as much data into as little space as he could so it you need help with the shorthand, yell. WINKLER, Lawrence w3p256; wr 1846ap15; pr 1848mr8; ex Jn Winkler; wit Leonard Alleman, Hen Bucher, Jr.; ap Jn Bonewitz, Joshua Brinkerhoff; bd Jos Hartzler, Geo Winkler $300. wife Fanny farm nw18 Wayne Twp 182 acres, dau rebecca, Liddy, Edi Ann, sons John, George, James, Jacob, Enoch, gr-dau Mary Ann ch/James. W-18 Bob Strock Sanddollar500@aol.com wrote: > > Are there any Wayne Co books that you may have that list births before 1867? > > Isaac Lehr married Mary Jane Winkler 14 Nov 1850 in Wayne Co., OH. > Marvin Allen Lehr was born to them 22 Nov 1855 in Wayne, Co., OH > Adda M. Lehr was born to them in Oct 1856 in Wayne, Co, OH. > > Is there any way to trace the birth of Mary Jane Winkler? The 1850 census > said she was 18 and lived with Fanny Winkler. I don't know what religion > they may have been or what church records it could be in. I know that Wayne > County Probate Court doesn't have records that far back. Is there any other > place I can look? > > How can I find out who Mary Jane Winkler's parents are? I don't know if > Fanny and Lawrence Winkler were her parents or grand parents. If they were > her grandparents, then I believe Enoch Winkler may be her father. Is there > any way to find this out? I'm not familiar with researching in OHio back at > this early dates when the state or county didn't keep records. > > I understand that John Winkler, the oldest living pioneer in Greene township, > and first son of Lawrende Winkler, was born April 22, 1799 in Burke County, > NC and came with his father to Greene township, Wayne Co, Oh in the spring of > 1814 to prepare the way for the rest of the family who came in the fall. > > Do you have any info on John Winkler and his children and 3 plus wives? > > Waiting to hear from you shortly. Thank you for your time and efforts. At a > brick wall Sandy in VA. > > Thanks. Sandy > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library -- Bob & Esther Strock, Dalton, OH. On the edge of Amish Country. Researching family history in Holmes, Medina, Stark, Summit, Wood, Wayne and other Counties of Ohio. Strack, Strock, Uhl, and Welday RootsWeb boards and message lists.

Are there any Wayne Co books that you may have that list births before 1867? Isaac Lehr married Mary Jane Winkler 14 Nov 1850 in Wayne Co., OH. Marvin Allen Lehr was born to them 22 Nov 1855 in Wayne, Co., OH Adda M. Lehr was born to them in Oct 1856 in Wayne, Co, OH. Is there any way to trace the birth of Mary Jane Winkler? The 1850 census said she was 18 and lived with Fanny Winkler. I don't know what religion they may have been or what church records it could be in. I know that Wayne County Probate Court doesn't have records that far back. Is there any other place I can look? How can I find out who Mary Jane Winkler's parents are? I don't know if Fanny and Lawrence Winkler were her parents or grand parents. If they were her grandparents, then I believe Enoch Winkler may be her father. Is there any way to find this out? I'm not familiar with researching in OHio back at this early dates when the state or county didn't keep records. I understand that John Winkler, the oldest living pioneer in Greene township, and first son of Lawrende Winkler, was born April 22, 1799 in Burke County, NC and came with his father to Greene township, Wayne Co, Oh in the spring of 1814 to prepare the way for the rest of the family who came in the fall. Do you have any info on John Winkler and his children and 3 plus wives? Waiting to hear from you shortly. Thank you for your time and efforts. At a brick wall Sandy in VA. Thanks. Sandy

Does anyone have the 1830 or 1840 Wayne County census and could do a lookup for me for the name of PHOEBE OWEN or OWENS??? Would really appreciate it - thanks and have a great weekend. Thanks, Sheila

On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:20:28 -0400 "Lea Ann" <lakg77@hotmail.com> writes: > Hi everyone, > > I have an ancestor that lived in Overton, Wayne Co., OH, in 1897. > Just where exactly is Overton? I couldn't find it on any map. > I would like to know what township it might be in because > I would like to do a census search. Chester Twp, Section 13, a few miles NW of Wooster. Ron Bauerle http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bauerle/lance/lance.htm

Hi everyone, I have an ancestor that lived in Overton, Wayne Co., OH, in 1897. Just where exactly is Overton? I couldn't find it on any map. I would like to know what township it might be in because I would like to do a census search. Thanks, Lea Ann _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Hmm, I'm from between Burbank and West Salem and there is an Overton Rd that runs through the Killbuck Creek bottom area. If I'm not mistaken, it runs clear to Wooster, so I'd first check the Canaan Twp records... Hope that helps! Tamara > Subject: [OHWAYNE] What township???? > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 23:20:28 -0400 > From: "Lea Ann" <lakg77@hotmail.com> > To: OHWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi everyone, > > I have an ancestor that lived in Overton, Wayne Co., OH, in 1897. Just > where exactly is Overton? I couldn't find it on any map. I would like to > know what township it might be in because I would like to do a census > search. > > Thanks, > > Lea Ann > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Thank you for the info. Sandy.

Carol Was there a Jacob Hammon mentioned who bought land in Chester Township, Wayne County May 1, 1815? Jacob also moved his family to Wayne County in 1814 from Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Chafin <cchafin@bright.net> To: <OHWAYNE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: [OHWAYNE] WINKLER Family > Sandy: > > The HISTORY OF WAYNE COUNTY by Ben Douglas, published 1878, includes > this Winkler reference: > > "John Winkler, the oldest living pioneer in Greene township, and first > son of Lawrence Winkler, was born April 22, 1799, in Burke county, > North Carolina, and came with his father to Greene township, Wayne > county, Ohio, in the spring of 1814, to prepare the way for the rest > of the family, who came in the fall. In 1820 he married Miss Dorcas > Wade, who died July 17, 1826, leaving one child. November 22, 1827, > he married Miss Margaret Wilford." > > Hope this helps in your search. > > Carol > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

Sandy: The HISTORY OF WAYNE COUNTY by Ben Douglas, published 1878, includes this Winkler reference: "John Winkler, the oldest living pioneer in Greene township, and first son of Lawrence Winkler, was born April 22, 1799, in Burke county, North Carolina, and came with his father to Greene township, Wayne county, Ohio, in the spring of 1814, to prepare the way for the rest of the family, who came in the fall. In 1820 he married Miss Dorcas Wade, who died July 17, 1826, leaving one child. November 22, 1827, he married Miss Margaret Wilford." Hope this helps in your search. Carol

Does anyone have any information on the Heckathorn Family? Jacob Heckathorn purchased 80 acres in 1825/26 in Milton Township, section 23. We think his wife, Sarah Dage/Dague whom he married in PA in 1825 died ca. 1830 as she does not appear in the 1830 census with Jacob and his 4 small children. By 1840 he had moved to Chester Twp, Wabash Co., IN. It seems he married another Sarah, either there or before he left Wayne County. I would be interested in any Heckathorn information. The name also is sometimes spelled: Heckedorn, Heckinthorn, Heckathorne, etc. Many thanks, Carole Schetter, Highlands Ranch, CO

Does anyone have any info on Enoch (1819) and Jacob (1815) WINKLER that were born in Wayne, Co, OH? Can anyone recommend how I could find any type of recorded birth for them. Looking for any suggestions on how to break through this brick wall. I'm not sure if they were German or part Indian and don't know what there religion was. I understand that Wayne County Probate records didn't record births before 1867. I think their parents Fanny & Lawrence came from Burke Co, NC to get away from slavery. All suggestions will researched. Thanks for your help and have a great day! Sandy

Hi Wayne County List: Does anyone on the list have any information on an EDGAR family from Wayne County. They may have married into the Metsker or Glass families in the early 1800's. Appreciate any and all EDGAR related information. Thanks, Roy L. Edgar ftscott@ameritech.net

Bob and Joy - your messages combined to give an excellent documented account of a Emanuel Matter, born 1847 in Paint Township - died 1943, his two wives and several children. I will put this family together in a Family Tree Format and post it on this list. Emanuel's parents remain shrouded in mystery. I believe his father was Emanuel Mateer, born 1830 in PA., who in 1850 was in Eagle Boarding House, Wooster. Bob, in the 1880 census is Emanuel Mater/Mateer/Matter, age 50, born PA, not to be found? He may be dead. I will try to find him in 1860 and 1870. If his father is dead or missing, the son might have no way of knowing where his father was born. I thank you again - and best regards Hal

From "Index to Wayne County Marriages" A publication of the WCGS. Matter, Emanuel m Eugenia Rudolf 14 Apr 1877 vol 9 page 27 From "Birth Records from The Wayne County, Ohio Probate Court 1867-1908" by Richard Smith. A publication of the WCGS. Matter, Emanuel-Matilda Nicod Paint Twp Edward, m 1874fb16 vol 1 page 116 Matter, Emanuel-S. Eugenie Rudolph Paint Twp C.E., m 1878ap9 vol 2 page 154 blank, m 1880de22 vol 2 page 260 Harvey R., m 1884nv11 vol 2 page 430 Arthur, n 1886ao19 vol 3 page 36 From 1880 Census of Wayne County, Ohio by Richard Smith a publication of WCGS. Paint Twp Matter, Emanuel, fh, 32 O-Sw-Sw; Eugenie 29 O-Sw-Sw; Edward 6 Charlese E. 2 From Wayne County Burial Records Paint Twp Mt.Eaton Matilde Matter, born Nicod wife of Emmanuel Matter b. 12 Jan 1853 d. aged 21-1-9 21 Feb 1874 -- West Lawn Cemetery Matter, Emanuel 1847-1943 Matter, Eugenie 1850-1926 There are a number of others in these books with the Matter surname. http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohwayne/index.htm Bob Strock Arthur Laube wrote: > > I wonder if someone can help by looking up some of these records - > I have been tying up loose odds and ends on Emanuel > Mater/Mateer/Matter/Motter. I have several lines of his antecedents going > back through Pennsylvania to Germany and Alsace. He was born Cumberland > County, Pennsylvania in 1830. He grew up as the first railroads were built- > for a time the MainLine between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh used cars that > both ran on rails and floated as barges on the canals. As a sixteen > year-old he came to northern Ohio with the first rails of the Pennsylvania > Railroad. Emanuel married about 1846. He probably married a daughter of > Samuel and Magdalena Graber, in Paint Township. She is not in the 1850 > census and must have died when their son Emanuel was born in 1847. The > infant, Emanuel, was left with his maternal grandparents while the father > went off to work - no doubt on the railroad. > > I have this census information for 1850, Wayne County > Mateer, Emanuel Location : Wooster Page # : 452 He is a single man 20 > years in a boarding house. > Matter, Emanuel Location : Paint Twp Page # : 102 This one is three > years-old living in the household of Samuel and Magdalena Graber( Reported > to be Gürne). > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Here is where I need help: Three census years - two men in each - > Emanuel Mater/Ma-otter/Mateer in Ohio, Wayne County, 1860, 1870, 1880. > There are two Emanuel's each year- Emanuel born 1830 in PA and Emanuel born > 1847 in Ohio. > February 13, 1873, Emanuel(probably the son) is reported to have married > Julie Matilde Nicot, b: 1853. Reportedly they have a son named , Edward, > who dies soon after birth. Is this documented? What a tragedy if this is > so. Or is this the father who may have married a second time. The two > Emanuel's are probably still in Ohio in 1880 and that entry may clarify > this puzzle. > I would greatly appreciate your assistance. I will put this story together > and when I do I will be glad to either publish it in sections on this list > or send to those who might be interested - Best regards Hal > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > In addition to the census records: > There should be a marriage record about 1846. A Baptism of the infant > Emanuel in 1847. A death or burial record of the wife in about 1847. One > marriage is reported as February 13, 1873 - the age of the bride was given > but not the groom? There may be another marriage after about 1850. If there > was another death connected with childbirth there should be a record - > cemetery records. If so what religion? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > This is a bit confusing - there are surname changes that are hard to > believe - if you do find something I would ask that you put it on this > Wayne rootsweb so that it becomes part of the invaluable archives of this > mailing list. I lost some of the e-mails on this subject from earlier this > year and I regret that they were not on the Wayne list - if they had been I > could now find them. > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 -- Bob & Esther Strock, Dalton, OH. On the edge of Amish Country. Researching family history in Holmes, Medina, Stark, Summit, Wood, Wayne and other Counties of Ohio. Strack, Strock, Uhl, and Welday RootsWeb boards and message lists.

I wonder if someone can help by looking up some of these records - I have been tying up loose odds and ends on Emanuel Mater/Mateer/Matter/Motter. I have several lines of his antecedents going back through Pennsylvania to Germany and Alsace. He was born Cumberland County, Pennsylvania in 1830. He grew up as the first railroads were built- for a time the MainLine between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh used cars that both ran on rails and floated as barges on the canals. As a sixteen year-old he came to northern Ohio with the first rails of the Pennsylvania Railroad. Emanuel married about 1846. He probably married a daughter of Samuel and Magdalena Graber, in Paint Township. She is not in the 1850 census and must have died when their son Emanuel was born in 1847. The infant, Emanuel, was left with his maternal grandparents while the father went off to work - no doubt on the railroad. I have this census information for 1850, Wayne County Mateer, Emanuel Location : Wooster Page # : 452 He is a single man 20 years in a boarding house. Matter, Emanuel Location : Paint Twp Page # : 102 This one is three years-old living in the household of Samuel and Magdalena Graber( Reported to be Gürne). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here is where I need help: Three census years - two men in each - Emanuel Mater/Ma-otter/Mateer in Ohio, Wayne County, 1860, 1870, 1880. There are two Emanuel's each year- Emanuel born 1830 in PA and Emanuel born 1847 in Ohio. February 13, 1873, Emanuel(probably the son) is reported to have married Julie Matilde Nicot, b: 1853. Reportedly they have a son named , Edward, who dies soon after birth. Is this documented? What a tragedy if this is so. Or is this the father who may have married a second time. The two Emanuel's are probably still in Ohio in 1880 and that entry may clarify this puzzle. I would greatly appreciate your assistance. I will put this story together and when I do I will be glad to either publish it in sections on this list or send to those who might be interested - Best regards Hal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In addition to the census records: There should be a marriage record about 1846. A Baptism of the infant Emanuel in 1847. A death or burial record of the wife in about 1847. One marriage is reported as February 13, 1873 - the age of the bride was given but not the groom? There may be another marriage after about 1850. If there was another death connected with childbirth there should be a record - cemetery records. If so what religion? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is a bit confusing - there are surname changes that are hard to believe - if you do find something I would ask that you put it on this Wayne rootsweb so that it becomes part of the invaluable archives of this mailing list. I lost some of the e-mails on this subject from earlier this year and I regret that they were not on the Wayne list - if they had been I could now find them.

I'm looking for info on Mary Jane Winkler who was married 14 Nov 1850 Wayne, Co. I think she may be the daughter of Enoch Winkler and grandaughter of Fanny & Lawrence Winkler. Would like to know more about all families. Thank You, Sandy