You go girl! I wrote to several senators before the law passed and when one of them cited 9/11/2001 to me, I wrote back and told him he was insulting my intelligence. The info on 100 year old birth/death records would be no good to terrorists. If they use modern ones, the $16.00 pricetag will not deter them from getting all they want. They are very resourceful and determined. It's easier for them to steal credit card info which is what scares me. I receive credit card offers in the mail every day. Many of them have my personal id on them and come with a stack of checks which can be used on my account. If the government wants to protect my identity (and I haven't even asked them to), they should look into this issue, not 100 year old birth/death certificates. And what makes it ok for the health department to walk into the library and confiscate anything? Don't they need a court order? Why haven't they raided the LDS, the Historical Society, the Genealogical Societies, even our homes? It is a crock. I vow to make public any info I have concerning the genealogy of my family without paranoia or fear that an airplane is going to zero in on my homeland. If the people in Washington would stop arguing and band together we could continue to live in the land of the free, instead of crushing our patriotism. The way things are going, we are on a fast train to government control of our private lives. It is a sad day. Thanks for letting me vent as well. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna J Hughes To: OHWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: [OHWASH] new rules I find it strange that one of the reasons for changing the laws is so there can't be theft of identity but if you pay the price you can get all the records you want!!!! From three cents for an uncertified copy to $16.00 for certified copy is quite a jump in price. Mainly what we used the copies for was to verify our information was correct. We would get siblings etc. to help prove relationship, but no more!!! No more uncertified copies. Also our Ohio Historical Society Archives had to cut hours back. Now they are only open 3 days a week. This was because of cuts in funding. It gets harder all the time to get records. I find this very sad. I have had a lot of fellow researchers e-mailing me telling me their feelings about this too. If the Huron County genealogy society had permission to put the film in the library there should have at least been a hearing to discuss it before taking it out of the library plus the fact it BELONGS to the Society. Thanks for letting me vent my feelings. Donna Hughes ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Along this line...I would like to say this: England just passed a law against SPAM, citing unwanted emails as an invasion of privacy. While here in the U.S., Congress is busy trying to figure out what to do...one Senator offered up a bill which would tax emails...otherwise putting a postage on each email. The tax, he said, would thwart massive spamming emails. I wrote to both Senators from Illinois in protest. Taxing is not the answer....go to whomever is paying to have the emails sent and fine them. It seems simple enough. Unfortunately, the word on the bottom line is spelled R-E-V-E-N-U-E which has nothing to do with safety, security, or our protection. It has only to do with our P-U-R-S-E. Sondra ELAINE TIPTON <TIPTON_E@msn.com> wrote: You go girl! I wrote to several senators before the law passed and when one of them cited 9/11/2001 to me, I wrote back and told him he was insulting my intelligence. The info on 100 year old birth/death records would be no good to terrorists. If they use modern ones, the $16.00 pricetag will not deter them from getting all they want. They are very resourceful and determined. It's easier for them to steal credit card info which is what scares me. I receive credit card offers in the mail every day. Many of them have my personal id on them and come with a stack of checks which can be used on my account. If the government wants to protect my identity (and I haven't even asked them to), they should look into this issue, not 100 year old birth/death certificates. And what makes it ok for the health department to walk into the library and confiscate anything? Don't they need a court order? Why haven't they raided the LDS, the Historical Society, the Genealogical Societies, even our homes? It is a crock. I vow to make public any info I have concerning the genealogy of my family without paranoia or fear that an airplane is going to zero in on my homeland. If the people in Washington would stop arguing and band together we could continue to live in the land of the free, instead of crushing our patriotism. The way things are going, we are on a fast train to government control of our private lives. It is a sad day. Thanks for letting me vent as well. Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna J Hughes To: OHWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:13 AM Subject: [OHWASH] new rules I find it strange that one of the reasons for changing the laws is so there can't be theft of identity but if you pay the price you can get all the records you want!!!! From three cents for an uncertified copy to $16.00 for certified copy is quite a jump in price. Mainly what we used the copies for was to verify our information was correct. We would get siblings etc. to help prove relationship, but no more!!! No more uncertified copies. Also our Ohio Historical Society Archives had to cut hours back. Now they are only open 3 days a week. This was because of cuts in funding. It gets harder all the time to get records. I find this very sad. I have had a lot of fellow researchers e-mailing me telling me their feelings about this too. If the Huron County genealogy society had permission to put the film in the library there should have at least been a hearing to discuss it before taking it out of the library plus the fact it BELONGS to the Society. Thanks for letting me vent my feelings. Donna Hughes ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Cousins--- I agree that the state government, or at least the Ohio Dept. of Health, has gone insane. Of course, I live in Cincinnati, where local businesses and football teams routinely blackmail the city into providing perks for them at the taxpayer's expense, under the threat of moving to greener pastures. The latest was a new parking garage for Kroger's exec building downtown. This made me wonder how much I should demand of the city of Cincinnati for my continued residency. A new house, perhaps. Or free city maintenance on the one I live in. I'll take any profit if I sell the house, of course. And I'd like a new lawn, too! The city gave both stadiums dandy new turf; when is mine going to be delivered? Come to think of it, I'd better write to the Ohio Department of Health and demand that they pay me for the use of MY information. I provided it, free of charge, whenever anyone was born, married, divorced, or died. And if they want to KEEP my information, I expect them to pay me a yearly rental fee, and to have it promptly available if I want it in the meantime, AND returned if it's not being cared for properly. Try those arguments on your state reps and senators. Can't hurt. Pat Hobson ----- Original Message ----- From: "ELAINE TIPTON" <TIPTON_E@msn.com> To: <OHWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [OHWASH] new rules > You go girl! I wrote to several senators before the law passed and when one of them cited 9/11/2001 to me, I wrote back and told him he was insulting my intelligence. > > The info on 100 year old birth/death records would be no good to terrorists. If they use modern ones, the $16.00 pricetag will not deter them from getting all they want. They are very resourceful and determined. > > It's easier for them to steal credit card info which is what scares me. I receive credit card offers in the mail every day. Many of them have my personal id on them and come with a stack of checks which can be used on my account. If the government wants to protect my identity (and I haven't even asked them to), they should look into this issue, not 100 year old birth/death certificates. > > And what makes it ok for the health department to walk into the library and confiscate anything? Don't they need a court order? Why haven't they raided the LDS, the Historical Society, the Genealogical Societies, even our homes? > > It is a crock. I vow to make public any info I have concerning the genealogy of my family without paranoia or fear that an airplane is going to zero in on my homeland. If the people in Washington would stop arguing and band together we could continue to live in the land of the free, instead of crushing our patriotism. The way things are going, we are on a fast train to government control of our private lives. It is a sad day. > > Thanks for letting me vent as well. > Elaine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donna J Hughes > To: OHWASHIN-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:13 AM > Subject: [OHWASH] new rules > > > I find it strange that one of the reasons for changing the laws is so > there can't be theft of identity but if you pay the price you can get all > the records you want!!!! From three cents for an uncertified copy to > $16.00 for certified copy is quite a jump in price. Mainly what we used > the copies for was to verify our information was correct. We would get > siblings etc. to help prove relationship, but no more!!! No more > uncertified copies. Also our Ohio Historical Society Archives had to cut > hours back. Now they are only open 3 days a week. This was because of > cuts in funding. It gets harder all the time to get records. I find > this very sad. I have had a lot of fellow researchers e-mailing me > telling me their feelings about this too. If the Huron County genealogy > society had permission to put the film in the library there should have > at least been a hearing to discuss it before taking it out of the library > plus the fact it BELONGS to the Society. Thanks for letting me vent my > feelings. Donna Hughes > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >