If anyone out there has an 1850 census CD of Warren Co. or access to microfilm, I would be grateful for a lookup. On page 882 are listing the following families according to the index. Alexander J. Gregg Alexander Johnson W. H. Johnson Joseph A. McCord There appear to be neighbors and I think all are likely of my line. In the meantime, if anyone has need of a lookup in Van Buren Co. Iowa, I'll return the favor. Rich

I am searching for information on Jacob Hastings b.Ireland d. Ky son: Jacob Vincent Hastings b.Ky d. Middletown, Butler County, Ohio Lived from 1840 to 1929 in Clearcreek Township, Red Lion, Ohio (Warren Co.) m. Sarah Ellen Osborne of Brown Co., Ohio 1.son Lewis Thomas Hastings b. Red Lion, Ohio Warren Co m. Maude Viola (Huffman-Hoffman) who was born and from Darke Co. but had lived in Springboro, Ohio, Warren where she had a Milliner and Dressmaker Shop before marrying.(1901??) They had one daughter, Gladys Sarah (Hastings) and one son Irving Hastings. mj/Ohio

Looking for information on Randolph Scott Hastings, b. 1888 in Red Lion, Ohio, Warren County, but lived and worked in Montgomery County and wife's name Pearl. Has a sister Elizabeth (Hastings) Ridinger (Fred) who was born in Warren County but lived in Montgomery County and had a family. He may have moved to Oregon and then retired to Florida. Also a brother Lewis Thomas Hastings deceased in 1909, lived in Red Lion and Franklin, Ohio. mj

" GENEALOGIST'S  POX " WARNING: Very contagious to adults. SYMPTOMS: Continual complaint as to need for names, dates, and places. Patient has a blank expression, sometimes deaf to spouse and children. Has no taste for work of any kind, except feverishly looking through records at libraries and courthouses.  Has compulsion to write letters. Swears at mailman when he doesn't leave mail. Frequents places such as cemeteries; ruins; and remote, desolate country areas. Makes secret night calls, hides phone bills from spouse, and mumbles to self.  Has a strange, faraway look in eyes.   NO KNOWN CURE. TREATMENT: Medication is useless. Disease is not fatal, but gets progressively worse. Patient should attend genealogy workshops, subscribe to genealogical magazines, and be given a quiet corner in the house where he or  she can be alone. REMARKS: The unusual nature of this disease is -- the sicker the patient gets, the more he or she enjoys it!   --Author Unknown _______ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

I have an original School Group Photo that I'm fairly sure was taken pre 1910 (but, maybe it's a little later). The family that had the picture said, "It belonged to mom & it has to be Middletown, Ohio". ... It can be viewed at http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4292805427. Click on the opening photo to see the enlarged view. Please add any comments below it, to help identify people or date if you can. The photo will forever be there & you can also print it (choose 8 x 10) from the "Home Printing" area (rotate it first from the site). ... I want to donate the original to a historical area. Does anyone have contact information for me to to this? ... Donna

Can anyone tell me if there was a Vulcan Rubber Company and where it was located and who owned it in the 1940"s? Is anyone researching the Ridinger Family of Montgomery County? Hastings of Montgomery County? mj

Robert E. Buehrle died March 20, 2001 in Long Beach, CA. He was born in Youngstown and lived there before coming to CA. If you would like this obit, email me personally and I will scan it or send it to you. Sue suezeaken@juno.com

Mert Marley wrote: Hi, I'm unfamiliar with Ft Ancient, exactly where might I find it in Warren County? Ft Ancient is located on the Little Miami River on highway State Route 350, off of Interstate 71. Not far from Lebanon, Morrow and South Lebanon in Warren county. It is now a popular spot for canoe trips on the river. It is one of the Ohio sites of the prehistoric Indian Mounds and the Native America Museum located here is worth checking out. There are hiking trails too. "Life is what happens while your making other plans"

I would be very interested in the answer to this query too. I hope you post on the board. Dorothy Lowe Pleasanton, Texas MJ wrote: > Methodist /Red Lion/Zoar Methodist Church/Clearcreek Twp. Would anyone have a list of the members or know how to find out for the years 1888 to 1929? Is there a list or index of families for Red Lion, Ohio? mj > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Methodist /Red Lion/Zoar Methodist Church/Clearcreek Twp. Would anyone have a list of the members or know how to find out for the years 1888 to 1929? Is there a list or index of families for Red Lion, Ohio? mj

Caveat Submitters & Searchers: As we are ALL learning.....there are many places out on the net that take our research and post it as their own. This includes Commercial and Personal sites. If you look at any of the Commercial sites, they all have a place to "send your Gedcom files". As of this date, I cannot find one of them that does not have a great deal to gain by getting their hands on a Gedcom submission. Even our old stand-by, Rootsweb (compiled by volunteers, Genealogical Societies, etc. over the past few years) is now owned by Ancestry.com. Does that mean that all the data once posted to Rootsweb sites is now their property? It seems that we are all at risk, from all of the Commercial groups. Data to an individual is also at risk. I had one large batch of data end up on a Personal site, with nothing to indicate MY name as submitter, or MY sources (which were all cited in the body of the data). So, lesson learned, I now have a personal policy: I hate to "hide my work in a box"...but until I am very sure of the future USE of my data, anything I post to any place is screened, with only the bare-bones given. Nothing gets posted to a Public site, other than QUERIES or a notice that I HAVE DATA to share. People I correspond with understand that WE will work on a line, and make sure it is right (& documented) before releasing data - to a site that we agree meets the ethical standards of Genealogy. We share - but not blindly trust the rest of the world. If someone cannot contact me personally, (my email addy is always at the bottom of the post) I prefer to pass on the opportunity to work with them. This also applies to any person putting together a "Family History of XXXX" in any format. If they accept submissions, but require no documentation, do not list the submitter-contact and cannot/will not publish changes once in print, they can publish without my input. A lot of these Home pages are being put together as ego-sites, and the people are too inexperienced (or lack ethics) when it comes to citing sources, showing submitters, etc.. They present themselves as the official place for a certain surname, and that the work is their own research. This is (my own term) "Junk Genealogy". It hits the net and becomes permanent, harder to work through than any of the old books of 100 years ago. If anyone thinks the LDS' Ancestry File site contains error-filled data, and is next to impossible to get corrected, they can add the CD's and Home Pages to the list of problem areas. Anyone who sends their GEDCOM to a Commercial site is literally, GIVING it away. Once you hit the 'send' button, it becomes THEIR property to use as they want. The Commercial sites have become the Halbards of the electronic age. They compile and sell. That is how they make money. Period. Just be careful, and consider WHAT you are doing for ( and to) the future Genealogists. Ask yourself: "Is this site/person research-driven?" If not, the potential for abuse of YOUR data is there. Anyone wanting to discuss this with me, please contact me directly. Permission to send to other sites is granted. Susan Bidwell Williams slw02@sprynet.com

Bill, et al, We are faced with an awkward situation here. Please contribute to finding a favorable reaction rather than criticize those who are uncomfortable with it. We are probably not "big" enough to battle those who would "steal" our information, package it and sell it to others. I have posted one GEDCOM online and that was on RootsWeb's WorldConnect project. I have no idea if any of my work has been "stolen". I have been contacted by several persons who have "discovered" my posting and have then contacted me directly to continue with information exchange. I selected the option that RootsWeb offered to deny anyone the option of downloading my entire GEDCOM, with the hopes that interested researchers would instead contact me directly. So far, I have been pleased with the results of my effort and how RootsWeb has treated my information. I am not aware that GenForum has violated the confidentiality of a researcher's information posted on any of their media. It is, rather that groups like Genealgy.com/FTM and now even LDS has accumulated compilations and has packaged and offered them for sale. My reaction can only be voiced as a displeasure that they would commercialize what I have so long sought, and neither pay me for my work, or share their collections with me without charge in exchange. It is definitely a Win-Lose situation. They win, you and I lose. Oh, I can agree that their produced accumulations of the work of others might actually have some value to John Q. Public, but it can exist as only CLUES to what I am searching for if the data does not contain detailed source identification (at best) or at least the identification of the compiler so that he/she can be contacted for follow up. I want the names of my families posted wherever a kinsman can find them. There is not enough time for me to find all of them by myself! I consider it an inexpensive advertisement to post basic information, and anxiously await for someone to contact me once they have found it, so that we can commence some serious information swappin'. I do know persons who employ the "box theory", and believe me, they ARE remembered, but definitely not respected. A dedicated researcher can determine when and where the information became "lost" and he will definitely grumble a bit about the person who caused it to be "lost" to future generations! On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:12:00 -0800 "wefox" <wefox@ncats.net> writes: > If you are so worried about someone, or some organizations getting > and using your information, and don't want it distributed to others. > Then don't put it online in the first place. Just put it in a box > and hide it, and leave instructions that it be buried with you. That > way after you are long gone, no one will remember you at all. > Bill Fox > William A. "Bill" Harrison MRBIL1@JUNO.COM Chairman of the Coles Co, IL Genealogical Society's "Pioneer Certificate Project" Sponsor of the STONER and SCHNORF mailing lists on Rootsweb

I have info on some of the Snell's that lived & some Born in Warren Co.,Ohio Perry Madison Snell & Wife Sarah H. (Simmons) Snell . They had a total of I belive 9 Children Part of them Born their. My Grandmother was 1 of those born their. Hername was Maud Jane (Snell) Smith . She & granpa Clarence AlvinSmith were Married in Lebnon,Ohio.in 2-12-1914. Her Birth was 8-29-1894 his I belive was 10-4 -1888 ,not posative of this one, He worked for the Railroad . Dont know if he started working for them befor they moved to Xenia,Ohio or not. I am searching for records on Him now. I have Her's.Clarence A. Smith His place of Birth & all are needed yet. One site shows he was Born in Lytle,Ohio but not sure of this. I know they lived Around Waynesville,Ohio part of the time too. & Some of the Family lived in Harviesburg,Ohio. possable near the Co. line somewhere. near Clarksville,Ohio. Please someone Help Me If You can!! Clarence A. Smith Parents were ,as I was told Isaac W. Smith & wife Mary (Hampton) Smith Not possarive on what I have on there names but Hope This is right. Clarence had Bro. & Sis. names I have on them sofar are as Follows: Maud (Smith) Sherrick,Lou (Smith ) ?, Roy Smith, Anna this one could have been her middle name ,not sure on this 1 for sure, just know they called 1 of them by the name Anna or Ann. If any one sees a Name that looks familiar Please Contact Me. Thank You. I realize this in Sctchie,but only able to go on what I have right now. The children were about 1 or 2 years appart. There was a Jackson connecyion too Children were Boy ? girl Ruby. Maud was married to a Forest Sherrick also known as Buster. Bonnie mom4god@aol.com Lou may have been a nick name & also the Jackson connection

Donna: In early Hamilton County, OH newspapers, Joseph Parks is mentioned as living on Dicks Creek. Someone from Warren Co. may answer your question differently and you should trust them! But I believe this was a community of settlers, not an organized town. I am not a descendant of Joseph Parks but because his activities in (then) Hamilton Co., OH, occurred during the same period of time as those in my Park family, sometimes found as Parks, I did a bit of research on him. I have no knowledge of the Joseph Parks you are researching prior to his appearance in Ohio. What information do you have or what are you looking for specifically? Maybe I can help. Judy Tooman In a message dated 03/23/2001 1:03:13 PM Mountain Standard Time, OHWARREN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I am searching for any information on the James and/or Joseph Parks family. They lived in or near Dicks Creek, Warren Co. OH. James m. Grizella McMeen in 1815. They were from PA. but died and were buried in Dicks Creek, Warren Co. Does anyone know of Dicks Creek? Is it a town or was it? Thanks, Donna >>

Hi Sue: You will find the word Bethel for towns, Cemeterys and churches in many counties and most states. It is a religious name. No the Old Bethel Cemetery has no connection with the town Bethel in Clermont. They also have an Old Bethel Church and cemetery near Bantam on Elklick . It also has no connection to the town. It was named before the town Bethel in Clermont got its name in the early 1800's to destinguish it from the town, Old was added to the name Bethel Church and Cemetery. This Old Bethel Church & Cemetery is in the East Fork State Park has been declared a historic place. Do you know if there is a cemetery book for the burials in the Old Bethel Cemetery in Warren Co., or do you know where such information can be found? Mille On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:25:39 -0500 "Sue Ellen Ash" <db1753@dragonbbs.com> writes: > Present day Bethel OH, Clermont county Oh, on highway 125 is quite a > ways south (over 50 miles) of the Ft Ancient area. I dont know if > there was a connection to the old cemetery, but there are many > Warren > county names in the Bethel area. This would need to be researched > or > answered by someone with more knowledge than myself. > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

I believe you are missing the point. First of all, I merely submitted what someone else had said--as they asked. I certainly don't object to sharing and have done so with MANY other researchers. However, these companies should not be allowed to just pkg. and sell what other people have sent in. They may not even give credit to the researchers. In some cases people are submitting to so-called secure web sites where a password is given to other family members and friends. Otherwise supposedly no one can access it--and some of these have also ended up on CD's for sale. I've also had experiences, as many others perhaps have--where my shared work then ends up on another individual's web site, and yet no credit is given to the person who did all the work. In one case, it simply states "work researched and compiled by so-and-so" (the owner of the site). Sources should be included. Karen -----Original Message----- From: wefox [SMTP:wefox@ncats.net] Sent: March 26, 2001 1:12 AM To: OHWARREN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Genforum If you are so worried about someone, or some organizations getting and using your information, and don't want it distributed to others. Then don't put it online in the first place. Just put it in a box and hide it, and leave instructions that it be buried with you. That way after you are long gone, no one will remember you at all. Bill Fox ============================== Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

Present day Bethel OH, Clermont county Oh, on highway 125 is quite a ways south (over 50 miles) of the Ft Ancient area. I dont know if there was a connection to the old cemetery, but there are many Warren county names in the Bethel area. This would need to be researched or answered by someone with more knowledge than myself.

I was wondering is it the "Old Bethel Cemetery" any connection to Bethel, OH? I have an old picture that I found among my grandparents things of a farm house, on the back it says" My Home in Bethel, OH. I don't recognize it and have always been curious as to whom it belonged. Diana

There is a cemetery high above the river on the other side of the old Ft Ancient. It is called Old Bethel, and has many early burials. Perhaps this is the one you folks are needing to check records in.

If you are so worried about someone, or some organizations getting and using your information, and don't want it distributed to others. Then don't put it online in the first place. Just put it in a box and hide it, and leave instructions that it be buried with you. That way after you are long gone, no one will remember you at all. Bill Fox