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I was looking at this,and wonder if anyone has a copy of the news article on it?Does any one know if the W>R>Perrywas William Riley Perry,from Radcliff,Ohio?Also,were the "ERWIN"s,name "ERVIN"? There was Paul Ervin-Phil Ervin-and Silas Ervin. There was also a James Lyons,and some of the Lyons married Ervins. Does anyone from the Radcliff area know anything about this?I think this W>R>Perry may be my great grandfather..Hope someone knows somethinh.Thank you. Dorothy Morgan!!!

Dorothy, Here is the URL to the Millfield Coal Mine Disaster news article: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohathens/coalminedisasters.htm I don't see a Perry on the list but there is a Paul Ervin who was killed. My ancestor Roy Andrews was killed in that explosion also. -----Original Message----- From: Elsie Rarey [mailto:rarey@fairfieldi.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 1:34 PM To: OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHVINTON-L] 1930-Millfield Mine Disaster-Athens,Ohio Dorothy -- have you looked on AThens County List for something about Millfield. I have never read it through but it is on there. If you don't have address you can reach it from the Vinton Co. List. Elsie ----- Original Message ----- From: "greg morgan" <gmorgan@dragonbbs.com> To: <OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 3:58 PM Subject: [OHVINTON-L] 1930-Millfield Mine Disaster-Athens,Ohio >I was looking at this,and wonder if anyone has a copy of the news article >on it?Does any one know if the W>R>Perrywas William Riley Perry,from >Radcliff,Ohio?Also,were the "ERWIN"s,name "ERVIN"? There was Paul >Ervin-Phil Ervin-and Silas Ervin. There was also a James Lyons,and some of >the Lyons married Ervins. Does anyone from the Radcliff area know anything >about this?I think this W>R>Perry may be my great grandfather..Hope someone >knows somethinh.Thank you. Dorothy Morgan!!! > >

There is information about the Samuel Sage family in the book "History of Hocking Valley ,Ohio" 1883.Page #~s-1160 and 1161.Most of this info differs from the IGI list. Dorothy Morgan

I would also love to know if there is a list for this cemetery.... I have family there as well .... I was there last summer and there were no stones for my family so a list would be appreciated ... thanks Rob -----Original Message----- From: frances bothwell [mailto:fbothwell@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:09 PM To: OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [OHVINTON-L] McGee Cem Thanks so much for the info. Do you know if the tombstones there have been recorded? If so, how could I find out. I know the Mormons have copied a lot. Thanks again, Fran in ABQ ----- Original Message ----- From: <RMORGAN762@aol.com> To: <OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [OHVINTON-L] McGee Cem > Infirmary road, the old infirmary sat where McArthur Lumber and post now sits.. > > >>Just a reminder that there is also Elk Fork Cemetery about a mile north of > Elk Cemetery. Elk Fork is on the right, up on top of a small hill. There is a > lumber yard beside the small road you turn on. I don't know the name of > this small road, if it has one. > > Harold in Florida >

Greetings to our BRITNELL cousins in Ohio. In January of 2004 I started to send out census packages around the world so that I could establish how many individuals were using this name. My research in the previous fifteen years had indicated to me that there were about 4000 using the name globally. With those very low numbers I have become concerned that this name is in demise. For those who did not receive a census package please email me here to register-->mary.anne@shaw.ca OR: write to me at 35 Deerpoint Road, SE, Calgary, Alberta, Canada, T2J 6R3 I hope to have the census completed by March of 2005 Mary Anne Britnell

Thanks so much for the info. Do you know if the tombstones there have been recorded? If so, how could I find out. I know the Mormons have copied a lot. Thanks again, Fran in ABQ ----- Original Message ----- From: <RMORGAN762@aol.com> To: <OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [OHVINTON-L] McGee Cem > Infirmary road, the old infirmary sat where McArthur Lumber and post now sits.. > > >>Just a reminder that there is also Elk Fork Cemetery about a mile north of > Elk Cemetery. Elk Fork is on the right, up on top of a small hill. There is a > lumber yard beside the small road you turn on. I don't know the name of > this small road, if it has one. > > Harold in Florida >

Infirmary road, the old infirmary sat where McArthur Lumber and post now sits.. >>Just a reminder that there is also Elk Fork Cemetery about a mile north of Elk Cemetery. Elk Fork is on the right, up on top of a small hill. There is a lumber yard beside the small road you turn on. I don't know the name of this small road, if it has one. Harold in Florida

McArthur Democrat Enquirer: Jan 31 1917 Mrs. Elizabeth Jane Stevens Dead Mrs. Elizabeth Jane Stevens, widow of Zachariah Stevens died at the home of her son, Elmer in Columbus, Tuesday morning following a stroke of paralysis last Wednesday. She was 84 years old. Surviving are three sons, Elmer of Columbus; Harve, of Elk Township; and Matt, of Athens County; two daughters, Mrs. John Steele, of New Plymouth; and Mrs. Tom Long, Columbus. Seeds Nixon, of Richland township is a brother of the deceased. Funeral services will be held Thursday morning at the home of her son Harve Stevens. Burial will be made in the Stevens Cemetery.

Located in Eagle Twp. (real close to Rt 16 and Pretty Run.)

Just a reminder that there is also Elk Fork Cemetery about a mile north of Elk Cemetery. Elk Fork is on the right, up on top of a small hill. There is a lumber yard beside the small road you turn on. I don't know the name of this small road, if it has one. Harold in Florida

Hi Bob, Daniel Freeman and Mahala are in the 1850 census of Manchester, Morgan, Ohio, Page 35. Daniel was 80 years old and born in NJ. Mahala was 46 and born in VA, John was 14 and born in OH and George was 12 and born in OH. I had been researching some Freemans in Vinton County. But, Daniel and Mahala are not part of the families I was studying. I just remember them from having researched them awhile back. Natalie Yavornitzky -----Original Message----- From: BobFre@aol.com [mailto:BobFre@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 3:03 PM To: OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [OHVINTON-L] Re: Freeman Obit Hello, Are there any Freeman or Leach researchers out there? Would love to know more about George Freeman's parents, Daniel and Mahala Freeman. Daniel died in Vinton Co., Ohio, possibly about Jan 1854 leaving Mahala a widow and 2 sons, George and and John W. Freeman. The following obit was printed in the Weekly Advocate, a newspaper from Newark, Ohio, dated 15 January 1914. George Freeman George Freeman, age 79 years, of Allensville, Ohio, died at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Edward Shomaker, at the Wehrle Farm on the Hebron road on Thursday evening at 8 o'clock. He has been visiting here since August and has been ailing for the past five weeks. Sunday, mumps developed and death resulted Thursday evening. He is survived by nine children. The body will be taken to Allensville on Saturday and burial and funeral services will take place there.

Hello, Are there any Freeman or Leach researchers out there? Would love to know more about George Freeman's parents, Daniel and Mahala Freeman. Daniel died in Vinton Co., Ohio, possibly about Jan 1854 leaving Mahala a widow and 2 sons, George and and John W. Freeman. The following obit was printed in the Weekly Advocate, a newspaper from Newark, Ohio, dated 15 January 1914. George Freeman George Freeman, age 79 years, of Allensville, Ohio, died at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Edward Shomaker, at the Wehrle Farm on the Hebron road on Thursday evening at 8 o'clock. He has been visiting here since August and has been ailing for the past five weeks. Sunday, mumps developed and death resulted Thursday evening. He is survived by nine children. The body will be taken to Allensville on Saturday and burial and funeral services will take place there.

OK - understood. amy@amyjohnsoncrow.com wrote: > My point with Rule of Thumb #2 was that posting on the Internet or on > a mailing list is a form of publication, so if something is under > copyright, posting it there would or could be a violation of that > copyright. > > Sandy Redmond writes: > >> Hi - >> You cannot "recopywright" something by posting on a website or >> mailing list. Just because you reprint it does not give you >> copyright, unless I'm mis-interpreting your second point. My local >> gene. society reprinted the county history, even adding a every name >> index. This did not make us the copyright holder of the new edition, >> because it was simply a copy of the first publication (which was in >> public domain). >> Respectfully, >> Sandy >> Amy Johnson Crow wrote: >> >>> Natalie is right -- the stellar-one site has an excellent >>> explanation of copyright laws. >>> Two rules of thumb to remember: >>> 1. If it was published before 1923, it is in the public domain >>> (meaning there is no copyright on it). >>> 2. Posting on a website or on a mailing list (such as this one) *is* >>> a form of publishing. >>> Amy >>> >>> Natalie Yavornitzky wrote: >>> >>>> There is always a wide variety of opinion and understanding about >>>> copyright >>>> laws. I have found this website to be informative >>>> http://stellar-one.com/copyrightgenealogy/ . But, I can say that if an >>>> article or creative work is still under copyright, then it doesn't >>>> matter if >>>> it was republished for free or for profit ... the copyright holder >>>> could >>>> lower the gavel. So, just be informed and wary. I think that >>>> stellar-one >>>> site is good for keeping genealogists informed. I hope it is helpful. >>>> Regards, >>>> Natalie Yavornitzky >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Jan Tremain [mailto:jtremain@chillicotheohio.com] Sent: >>>> Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:09 PM >>>> To: OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: RE: [OHVINTON-L] Obits and copyrights >>>> Only if they were reprinted for profit. >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Marvalene [mailto:marvalene@columbus.rr.com] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:03 PM >>>> To: OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [OHVINTON-L] Obits and copyrights >>>> Would there be a copyright infringement if the obit was in a >>>> newspaper that >>>> was available to the public? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > >

My point with Rule of Thumb #2 was that posting on the Internet or on a mailing list is a form of publication, so if something is under copyright, posting it there would or could be a violation of that copyright. Sandy Redmond writes: > Hi - > You cannot "recopywright" something by posting on a website or mailing > list. Just because you reprint it does not give you copyright, unless I'm > mis-interpreting your second point. My local gene. society reprinted the > county history, even adding a every name index. This did not make us the > copyright holder of the new edition, because it was simply a copy of the > first publication (which was in public domain). > Respectfully, > Sandy > > Amy Johnson Crow wrote: > >> Natalie is right -- the stellar-one site has an excellent explanation of >> copyright laws. >> >> Two rules of thumb to remember: >> 1. If it was published before 1923, it is in the public domain (meaning >> there is no copyright on it). >> 2. Posting on a website or on a mailing list (such as this one) *is* a >> form of publishing. >> >> Amy >> >> >> Natalie Yavornitzky wrote: >> >>> There is always a wide variety of opinion and understanding about >>> copyright >>> laws. I have found this website to be informative >>> http://stellar-one.com/copyrightgenealogy/ . But, I can say that if an >>> article or creative work is still under copyright, then it doesn't >>> matter if >>> it was republished for free or for profit ... the copyright holder could >>> lower the gavel. So, just be informed and wary. I think that stellar-one >>> site is good for keeping genealogists informed. I hope it is helpful. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Natalie Yavornitzky >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jan Tremain [mailto:jtremain@chillicotheohio.com] Sent: Wednesday, >>> January 26, 2005 2:09 PM >>> To: OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: RE: [OHVINTON-L] Obits and copyrights >>> >>> Only if they were reprinted for profit. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Marvalene [mailto:marvalene@columbus.rr.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:03 PM >>> To: OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [OHVINTON-L] Obits and copyrights >>> >>> Would there be a copyright infringement if the obit was in a newspaper >>> that >>> was available to the public? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >

Bless you, Elsie. I will try and locate this immediately. Fran in ABQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elsie Rarey" <rarey@fairfieldi.com> To: <OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [OHVINTON-L] McGee Cem > McArthur is in Elk Twp -- the big cemetery at the north edge of McArthur is > called Elk Cemetery. There is a reading of this cemetery at McArthur > (Wescoat) Library. I think they are on line > Elsie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "frances bothwell" <fbothwell@comcast.net> > To: <OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:15 PM > Subject: Re: [OHVINTON-L] McGee Cem > > > >I am looking for my ancestor, Charlotte Potter Bothwell, who is buried in > > Elk twp. , a suburb of McArthur. Is McGee Cem the name of the cemetery I > > am > > looking for? FBothwell@comcast.net. Fran in ABQ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <TAArledge@aol.com> > > To: <OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:00 PM > > Subject: [OHVINTON-L] McGee Cem > > > > > >> There is a McGee Cem in Vinton Co, in Eagle twp. The OGS cemetery book > > gives > >> these directions: In section 23; From SR 327 go east on CR 17 to CR 16, > > then > >> south to Twp Rd 20, turn west to the top of the hill and cem is on the N > >> side. I have several people buried there, none of whom have tombstones, > >> unfortunately. I hope you have better luck! > >> > > > > > >

McArthur is in Elk Twp -- the big cemetery at the north edge of McArthur is called Elk Cemetery. There is a reading of this cemetery at McArthur (Wescoat) Library. I think they are on line Elsie ----- Original Message ----- From: "frances bothwell" <fbothwell@comcast.net> To: <OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [OHVINTON-L] McGee Cem >I am looking for my ancestor, Charlotte Potter Bothwell, who is buried in > Elk twp. , a suburb of McArthur. Is McGee Cem the name of the cemetery I > am > looking for? FBothwell@comcast.net. Fran in ABQ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <TAArledge@aol.com> > To: <OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 4:00 PM > Subject: [OHVINTON-L] McGee Cem > > >> There is a McGee Cem in Vinton Co, in Eagle twp. The OGS cemetery book > gives >> these directions: In section 23; From SR 327 go east on CR 17 to CR 16, > then >> south to Twp Rd 20, turn west to the top of the hill and cem is on the N >> side. I have several people buried there, none of whom have tombstones, >> unfortunately. I hope you have better luck! >> > >

Sorry I just know where he is buried but I don't know exactly where the cemetery is. I hope to get over one day and find out for my self. Madge ----- Original Message ----- From: Elsie Rarey To: OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [OHVINTON-L] JACOB OILER So, do you think this McGee cemetery is down in Gallia Co. then? I have never heard of it there, but sure could be. Elsie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Madge Staley" <madge445@comcast.net> To: <OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [OHVINTON-L] JACOB OILER >I am so very sorry that I confused you. But these two Oiler's lived in >Vinton , Gallia Co. Ohio. My grandmother was born in Vinton and my Mom was >born in McArthur, Ohio. Sorry I misled you I didn't mean too. > Madge > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Elsie Rarey > To: OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 11:57 AM > Subject: Re: [OHVINTON-L] JACOB OILER > > > Can you tell me where the McGee cemetery is in Vinton County? > Elsie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Madge Staley" <madge445@comcast.net> > To: <OHVINTON-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 11:48 AM > Subject: [OHVINTON-L] obits > > > > These people lived in Vinton and raised their family there. > > > > Lucinda J. Oiler taken from the Columbus Dispatch Nov 2, 1916 > > > > A complication of diseases due to her advanced age-resulted in the > death > > Wednesday night of Mrs. Lucinda J.Oiler aged 81, widow of Jacob Oiler, > at > > the home of her niece Mrs. Alice Cole. Besides her niece she leaves > three > > sons. The funeral will be held from the residence at 9:30 Friday > morning, > > and the body will be sent to Delaware for burial by W. I. Winegarner. > > > > - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > He died November 9, 1911 > > > > Jacob Oiler, civil was veteran, died at his home in Vinton last > Thursday > > morning Funeral Friday at his home at 1 pm., and was laid to rest in > > McGhee Cemetery on the hill near his home. Mr. Oiler has been an > invalid > > for several years and was almost blind but he was tenderly cared for by > > his companion, who was a frail little woman and we extend our sympathy > to > > her in her great sorrow and we ask the Lord to bless her for the > patient > > loving care she always showed to her afflicted husband. > > > > > > >

There is a McGee Cem in Vinton Co, in Eagle twp. The OGS cemetery book gives these directions: In section 23; From SR 327 go east on CR 17 to CR 16, then south to Twp Rd 20, turn west to the top of the hill and cem is on the N side. I have several people buried there, none of whom have tombstones, unfortunately. I hope you have better luck!

List & McGee researchers, Did McKee & McGee interchange the spelling of the names? Diana Bryson-Brooks