This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZZB.2ACI/2833 Message Board Post: OBIT: OH-Warren Tribune 05 Nov 1942 CARL BATES: Johnston-formerly Kinsman: 55, died Wednesday(11/4) at CityHosp of complications following an operation 1 week ago. He was born 15 Aug 1887 in Jamestown, a son of Henry & Elizabeth Brown Bates. He was a member of Kinsman Methodist Church. MrBates leaves a wife, Alvaretta Norton Bates & 11 children: Howard, Raymond, MrsEdna Hauser-NewtonFalls; Darwin-Warren; Clarence, Shirley, Betty, Florence, Marian, Virginia, Carl-at home; also 2 bros: Claude & Merle Bates-Jamestown. Service will be held Fri afternoon at McLean Funeral Home, with RevEN Miller officiating. Burial will be in Kinsman Cem. OBIT: OH-Warren Tribune 21 Sep 1968 EFFIE A BATES: Warren; 74, died Friday following a year's illness. She was born 14 Sep 1894 in JamestownPA, a dau of William & Susie Norton. Her husband Carl Bates, died 12 Nov 1942. Prior to her illness, she was employed as a cook at Johnnys Grill. She was previously employed in the kitchen at Trumbull Memorial Hosp. Survivors include 10 children: Edna (MrsSteve) Hauser-NewtonFalls; Shirley (MrsRobert) Duncan-Gallway; Betty (MrsWm) Dunbar-Niles; Marion (MrsChester) Warzala-Howland; Virginia (MrsMichael) Parana-Warren; Howard-Marion; Darwin-Cortland; Raymond-Wayland; Clarence-Warren; Carl-Southington; 33 grandchildren & 16 gr grandchildren. A dau: Florence Dann died 16 Nov 1965. Service will be held Mon morning at Carl Hall Funeral Home. Burial will be in Kinsman Cem.