Earlier this year, I posted information on siblings of my ggg-grandmother Sarah HARTZEL.  At that time, I had asked if anyone had any similar information on these siblings and perhaps knew who their parents were.  I have recently found some additional information (see following) linking these siblings to a Jacob and Elizabeth (?) HERZEL of Adams Co., PA.  However, I need some help in confirming what I found.  Also, this Jacob HERZEL may be the son of an Adam and Christina (?) HERZEL, or he may be a different Jacob entirely. Thanks, Michael Cummings 1. First, here is an update of the information I posted earlier this year: All of these families were enumerated in Pike Township, Stark County, Ohio in the 1850 census and lived quite close to one another. Sarah HARTZEL, b. 7 Apr 1817, PA, d. 10 Nov 1872; m. John RIDER 12 Feb 1837, Stark Co., OH  (Date of birth (calculated) and death are from Kosciusko Co., IN cemetery records). John HARTZEL, b. 17 Mar 1820, OH (PA?), d. 18 Dec 1883; m.Elizabeth SECRIST 31 Oct 1841, Tuscarawas Co., OH   (Date of birth (calculated) and death are from Noble Co., IN cemetery records). Elizabeth HARTZEL, b. 3 Jan 1822, Adams Co., PA, d. 7 May 1899, Pike Twp., Stark Co., OH; m. John GROVE (Locations and date of birth (calculated) and death are from Stark Co., OH death records). Hannah HARTZEL, b. 26 Jun 1824, Stark Co., OH, d. 5 Feb 1892, Pike Twp., Stark Co., OH; m. John EVERSOLE 27 Oct 1842, Stark Co.,OH  (Locations and date of birth (calculated) and death are from Stark Co., OH death and cemetery records). 2. Now, here is the information I recently found: >From IGI, I found: Sarah HERZEL, b. 7 Apr 1818, York Co., PA; Parents: Jacob and Elizabeth HERZEL, (Film Reference: 459075) Hannah HERZEL, b. abt 1820; Parents: Jacob and Elizabeth HERZEL (Film Reference:  459075) Marriage for Jacob HERZEL and Mrs. Elizabeth HERZEL, abt.1817 (Film Reference:  459075) Jacob HERZEL, b. 21 Mar 1790, York Co., PA; Parents: Adam and Christina HERZEL (Film Reference: 459075) (Note that all of these items had the same film number; unfortunately, this film is not allowed to be circulated.) Since my Sarah HARTZEL’s calculated birth date was the same day and month, and only one year off of the entry for Sarah HERZEL, I decided to see what else I could find. >From follow up research at the DAR library, I found: In: Baptismal Records of the Upper Bermudian “Ground Oak” Church, Huntingdon Township, Adams County, Pennsylvania, 1791-1874     Sarah HERZEL b. 7Apr 1818, bap. 19 July 1818. Parents: Jacob HERZEL and Elizabeth;   Sponsors: Henrich Schlosser and Sarah In: The Parish Register of Benders Church, Butler Township, Adams County, Pennsylvania for the Evangelical Lutheran and Reformed Congregations, 1786-1860     Elisabeth HERZEL, b. 3 Jan 1822, bap. 31 March 1822; Parents: Jacob HERZEL and Elisabeth;Sponsors: Adam Geiss and Susanna. End of research, and beginning of speculation: Since the birth date for this Elisabeth HERZEL exactly matches the calculated birth date for the Elizabeth HARTZEL listed above and since this latter Elizabeth was born in Adams Co., I believe that Jacob and Elizabeth HERZEL of Adams Co. are the parents of these HARTZEL siblings, and also that the birth date of my Sarah HARTZEL is 7 Apr 1818 and not the 7 Apr 1817 as calculated from her tombstone. If Hannah HARTZEL’s birth location is correct, this also means that Jacob and Elizabeth moved to Stark Co., OH between 1822 and 1824. Now the question is, which Jacob and Elizabeth HERZEL?  Is this Jacob the same as the one in the IGI records, born to Adam and Christina HERZEL on 21 Mar 1790, or is this another Jacob?  Who might Elizabeth be? Thanks again, Michael