Brenda, Don't you dare un-sub ! ... Was it only one person, only one out of ALL of us ? I want to have you share what you have and hopefully add to your info..and IF I only knew the person that you were looking for I would have jumped right in to find him.. Oh, has anyone done that ? I'll bet that someone will ? I live in Laguna Niguel, So Calif and it is hard to find someone in OH... But, have you tried ALL the internet phone directories ? Someday one of us may be feeling as desperate are you are feeling .... and we should feel no shame in posting to any list that we belong to... even if we get a "Flame" ... back ... I am on the SACKETT list. I left a message saying in a sorts... " HEY, you guys, help me find my Elizabeth." After a VERY long thread rehashing the same thing over and over ... I received a message back from a very popular person on that list that was rather RUDE...Funny, my writing is much like his.. Ya, know someday he will need me and my info and talents as a genealogist and will I help? Yeah... Girl friend .. shake it off and get back here.... So, on to Genealogy, do you have any Samuel COOPER and Lucinda HOFFMAN (any spelling) HELP !!!! They left before 1866 and went to Springport, Jackson Co.,MI ... Father of Samuel possibly Jacob.. b 1810 in PA.. Good luck.. let me know if you find your missing person... Jill in SoCal