Hi Sue, Copies of the original papers of the estate or a copy of the will from microfilm can be obtained from the Genealogy Division of the Stark County District Library. Request these by visiting our website at www.stark.lib.oh.us and using the Request Forms in the Genealogy Section. You can specify copies of only those documents that contain genealogical information, also, ie List of Heirs, Executor or Administrator's Bond, etc. The estate is Case # 1291 OS (Old Series) and the Will can be found in Volume B, page 480. Quote these citations when requesting copies (saves us time in getting these to you). No further information can be gained from a lookup in the Estate and the Will Indices other than a more specific probate date than 1849. Regards Neal Thompson Gardner Genealogy Division Stark County District Library ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Sisk" <suesisk@yahoo.com> To: <OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 27 February, 2001 4:50 PM Subject: [OHSTARK] Wills & Estates > > Could someone please do a look-up for me in the Wills & Estates Book > for Stark Co.,OH on: > > WILLIAM FOGLE W-1849 ST wbB p480 c1291 OS > > Would appreciate all the info listed on his Will Record. > > Thank You very much, > Sue Fogle/Sisk > suesisk@yahoo.com > > > ==== OHSTARK Mailing List ==== > Stark County USGenWeb site: > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohstark/> > >

Could someone please do a look-up for me in the Wills & Estates Book for Stark Co.,OH on: WILLIAM FOGLE W-1849 ST wbB p480 c1291 OS Would appreciate all the info listed on his Will Record. Thank You very much, Sue Fogle/Sisk suesisk@yahoo.com

Kelly, Yes, Massillon is in Stark County New Berlin still exists. After WW I, it was renamed North Canton. North Canton is located about 6 miles north of Canton. Connie

Naturalization records are held in the county seat where the individual was naturalized, so you would have to have an idea of where that might be. There is no central record of it. Someone could be naturalized anywhere--- If you think someone was nat. in Stark, the Canton Lib. would hold them. In Cuy. County, they are at the Cuy. County Archives, etc. Judith in OH

Oh, how sickening! Ancestry's late use of "MyFamily.com" because Broderbund already had "Family Tree Maker", and Broderbund's late use (really, buying out of...) Genealogy.com since almost everything had "gen" in it instead of "family", have helped to cause sooo much confusion for their supposed customers, and all for the sake of a few more "bucks". Now, you tell us it's even more pyramided than I knew. I surely wish both would concentrate on improving their products instead of buying out the genealogy world, & coming up with supposedly catchy new titles, & reinventing the wheel (a pedigree or family tree...) for their own sites. Sorry for taking your time this afternoon on this somewhat off-topic subject, but I think it's fairly important for these companies to hear some feedback from real genealogists, both amateur & professional. Warm regards, Barbara (V. Smith) Athens, OH barbara@frognet.net my personal website can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/bcvsmith/ and my GEDCOM database on Rootsweb's WorldConnect site is at: http://wc.rootsweb.com/~bcvs _______________ > From: Bob Strock <bostrock@zoominternet.net> > Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:49:16 -0500 > To: OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHSTARK] Rootsweb > Resent-From: OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:49:19 -0700 > > Gloria, > > You have your names mixed up. Ancestry.com is owned by MyFamily.com. RootsWeb > (and > all the things RootsWeb does) is a sub of Ancestry.com. > > Family Tree Maker is owned by Genealogy.com who's major ower is A&E Network. > Genealogy.com also has GenFourm and others. Mattel does is not part of > Genealogy.com > any more. But Mattel still owns part of the Learning Co's other software. > > Bob Strock

Hi List Members, I would like to be in touch with Gellinger and Schmidt researchers to find a possible connection with my family. Cathy Martin ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Gloria, You have your names mixed up. Ancestry.com is owned by MyFamily.com. RootsWeb (and all the things RootsWeb does) is a sub of Ancestry.com. Family Tree Maker is owned by Genealogy.com who's major ower is A&E Network. Genealogy.com also has GenFourm and others. Mattel does is not part of Genealogy.com any more. But Mattel still owns part of the Learning Co's other software. Bob Strock jgmott wrote: > > It sure does.......and Family Tree Maker and they are all owned by > Mattel(the toy maker) > Gloria > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B & B Thomas" <rthoma20@ix.netcom.com> > : Did I see correctly that Ancestry.com owns Rootsweb now? Has anyone been > on GenWeb or tried to access it? I've tried all day. > : > : Thanks, Brenda > : > > ==== OHSTARK Mailing List ==== > Were your ancestors from Massillon? Looking for the Massillon newspaper > archives? Try <A HREF="http://www.massillon.lib.oh.us/"> > Massillon Public Library -- Bob & Esther Strock, Dalton, OH. On the edge of Amish Country. Researching family history in Holmes, Medina, Stark, Summit, Wood, Wayne and other Counties of Ohio. Sponsor member of Rootsweb and listowner of Strock-L, Uhl-L, and Welday-L message lists. GenConnect Family Association boards: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Strock http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Uhl http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/w/e/WELDAY/queries

It sure does.......and Family Tree Maker and they are all owned by Mattel(the toy maker) Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & B Thomas" <rthoma20@ix.netcom.com> : Did I see correctly that Ancestry.com owns Rootsweb now? Has anyone been on GenWeb or tried to access it? I've tried all day. : : Thanks, Brenda :

Did I see correctly that Ancestry.com owns Rootsweb now? Has anyone been on GenWeb or tried to access it? I've tried all day. Thanks, Brenda

Can anyone please e-mail me the address of St. Joseph Church in Maximo, Ohio. I would appreciate it. Thank you Jacque Wallingford Rmomba@aol.com

Dear Bob et al., I would assume you haven't received much mail in the last couple of days because the entire Rootsweb system has been down for revamping; I miss it, too! I hope they don't do this all at once again... The new owners, Ancestry.com, are acting like a big, anonymous, uncaring, powerful American business instead of like the old caring volunteers' feel. I hope they take note of the rumblings and change their hubristic policy/ies for future upgrades, however wonderful they might be when it finally comes back on-line. "Soon" is NOT 3 or more days; they should've been more specifically realistic. Warm regards, Barbara (V. Smith) Athens, OH barbara@frognet.net my personal website can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/bcvsmith/ and my GEDCOM database on Rootsweb's WorldConnect site is at: http://wc.rootsweb.com/~bcvs ____________________ > From: BOBESTOTT@aol.com > Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:48:45 EST > To: OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [OHSTARK] Mail > Resent-From: OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:53:12 -0800 > > I don't know why but not receiving any mail for the last two > days had incoming checked by my cable sever. And they sent a > message thru for a check, it was alright????????????? > Bob Stott Mesa AZ

I don't know why but not receiving any mail for the last two days had incoming checked by my cable sever. And they sent a message thru for a check, it was alright????????????? Bob Stott Mesa AZ

I have a question from a genealogist friend in New York. I hope someone knows the answer to these. 1. Where are Ohio naturalization records kept? They are not at the National Archives in Washington, DC. I was looking for James Henderson's naturalization record. I believe he was naturalized because his wife was from Ireland and he was part owner of the store 'Henderson & Bleakley' in Wellsville...land owners had to be citizens. 2.Where would the deed or business records for the store in Wellsville, OHIO in 1860 be found? ...I know the store was in business in 1860. I am in Stark County and can get these things - but am new to genealogy, and do not know where to look? Becky

The following list are Cartes de visites I have with an identification on the back of the person(s) in the photograph. If they are ancestors of yours I would be happy to give them to you. Just identify which ones you want and your mailing address on an email. Carte de visites were introduced in 1859 and were popular into the 1880s. They were all taken by photographers in Ohio. The dates are those the photographer was in business as listed in the book "Ohio Photographers 1839-1900" by Diane Van Skiver Gaggle, a very helpful book in dating old photographs. Listed in order is the writing on the back identifying the person(s) in the photo, the photographer's name and location and the dates he was in business. I gathered these pictures at flea markets in the 60' and 70's when I was starting my collection of old cameras, photos and photographic paraphernalia. That hobby slowed down and stopped in the early 80's My wife and I are now "into" our family genealogies. It is more fun and takes up a lot less space -- and a LOT more time. Della Swanson Orrin McIntire, Canton 1859-79 Mr. & Mrs. Swanson J.H.Gregory, Magnolia 1878-79 Shaffer's Orrin McIntire, Canton 1859-79 Cal Stull Battels, Adron 1885-86 Joel Peterys (man and woman) Andrew Price, Canton 1875-76 Sarah Petery Kell, Canton 1872-79 Lizzie Heldebrand Edwin Smith, Canton not in book The Schick twins J. H. Kell, Canton 1872-79 Wallace Schick J. H. Kell, Canton Dan Willaman Kell, Canton George Willaman J. S. Hill, Middle Branch 1878-79 Jonas Willaman Edward Fleischer, Canton 1866 John Willaman J. B. Miller, Canton not in book Louisa Willaman Edwin Smith, Canton not in book Sam Willaman O. McIntire, Canton 1859-79 Alice Carpenter McFadden & Clippinger, Akron 1870-73 Sue Carpenter Smith Orrin McIntire, Canton 1859-79 Silas Carpenter Orrin McIntire, Canton Cyrus Carpenter the oldest of the family. Father of John, Neal and Clara Wise J. J. McFadden, Akron 1870-73 Cyrus Carpenter (same as above without the added information)

It is not on line. In my original message I said I had Family Tree Maker and purchased a CD from them on Ohio County Histories If you have FTM it is CD450. Carole in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael R. Swigart" <swigart@onemain.com> To: <OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:34 PM Subject: RE: [OHSTARK] History of Stark Co. edited by Wm. Henry Perrin 1881 > Hi, > > "Most likely permission was given to copy the original history for use > online." > > Is access to this book available on line? Great! What is the web address? > > Regards, > Michael Swigart > > > -----Original Message----- > From: skippyg [mailto:skippyg@raex.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:40 PM > To: OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHSTARK] History of Stark Co. edited by Wm. Henry Perrin 1881 > > Hi ____, > > No reprints of this book are available to my knowledge. An historic > preservation of this history was done by grant to reproduce several copies > for the Stark County District Library. > > I am not aware of CDs of this history or any contract initiated by the > Stark County Genealogical Society to mass produce Perrin's history. Most > likely permission was given to copy the original history for use online. > > To inquire for further details contact the new president of the Stark County > Genealogy Society OGS: > > Miss Lauren Landis > Genealogy Division > 715 Market Ave N > Canton, OH 44702-1080 > > or e-mail landisla@oplin.lib.oh.us > > Neal Thompson Gardner > Genealogy Division > Stark County District Library > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "carole lubbers" <carolelubbers@email.msn.com> > To: <OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 22 February, 2001 12:32 PM > Subject: [OHSTARK] History of Stark Co. edited by Wm. Henry Perrin 1881 > > > > I have the Ohio County Histories CD sold by Family Tree Maker. In looking > > at this book, I see it was made possible for this company to reproduce > this > > book by the Stark Co. Genealogy Society. Have copies been made of this > book > > that would be for sale? > > > > Carole Lubbers, Marietta, Ga. researching Willard: Tuscarawas, Stark, > > Summit, Portage & Henry Counties, Ohio > > Immel: Burlaswagen, Germany to Holmes Co., Ohio > > Thomas G. Kemp: Cornwall, Engl. to Dover, Tuscarawas Co., Ohio > > Paczkowski/Paszkowski/Patzkowski: Prussia to Russia to Marion Co., Kansas > > Ruth Lloyd b. 1848 Merioneth Co., Wales, Father was John Lloyd b. 1816 > > Gwyddelwern > > Joseph Roberts b. 1848 husband of Ruth, can't locate anything for Joseph > > Dennis Hogan b. 1850 Ireland to Cleveland, Ohio abt. 1870 > > Mary Ellen Gleason b. 1852 Ireland to Cleveland, wife of Dennis Hogan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== OHSTARK Mailing List ==== > > To UNsubscribe to OHSTARK-L, send click on the following: > > <mailto:OHSTARK-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > ==== OHSTARK Mailing List ==== > Stark County USGenWeb site: > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohstark/> > > > ==== OHSTARK Mailing List ==== > To search the OHSTARK listserver archive, go to > <http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> > and type "OHSTARK" >

What are the years that you have for this CD? Do you find the Surnames, Crowl,Crowel, Haines, Perdue, Schmidt, Loehr or Best? Thank you and God Bless, Donna Mae Crowl

Hello all. Here in OH, a death record from that period SHOULD contain the name of the deceased, their address at time of death; name of spouse & whether they are also deceased; names of both parents, and place of birth of deceased and parents. Cause of death, location and date of burial are also certified. So it is a pretty complete record. However. There is always a however in genealogy. The information you get depends on the reliability of the informant. (THE INFORMANT'S NAME & ADDRESS ARE ALSO GIVEN, WHICH CAN SOMETIMES LEAD YOU TO THE NEXT GENERATION.) In some cases, the parent may be listed as "unknown;" same with their place of origin. In my experience, it happens when the informant is an in-law, grandchild, or someone else fairly removed in time who just does not know or remember. Your best bet, if possible, is to get the death cert. for a "child" who was comparitively young, and also to order death cert. for other "children" of the couple youy are searching for. You can then compare entries and get at the "real" truth. I searched for the maiden name of a German Immigrant gg-grandmother-- it did not appear on her cert., that of my g-grandmother, or one of her sisters. I finally found the cert. for the sister who died first, and voila! There is finally was. Those names are often spelled differently too. Here is the URL for how & where to get various vital records from OH: http://www.vitalrec.com/oh.html In your case, you can order from the OH Historical Society in Columbus for $3.00. If you live in the state, you can visit and make your own copy for $.25; you can also do that in Youngstown. There is an idex to OH death records from 1913-1938 online at their website: http//:www.ohiohistory.org/ Good hunting. Judith in OH ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Zellers <zelmo@mediaone.net> To: <OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: [OHSTARK] Birth/ Death records > I have a question I was wondering if someone could answer it for me. A > Distant relative Frederick M. Zellers was born in 1850 in Tuscarawas County > OH and died in 1926 in Stark County.. I was told they do not have his birth > records recorded but I was wondering if I went for his death certificate dod > 12/15/1926 if it would have his parents names on it....this is what I am > looking for.. It does not have them listed on the marriage certificate which > I have. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Thank you,,, Karen > Zellers > > ______________________________

Hello Carole & all. There is some info on the web about the Stark Co. chapter of the OH Genealogy Society. it does not look as if this book is available through them any longer, but others are, including the cemetery inscriptions books and the Portrait & Bio. Record, (pub. 1892). Here is the URL: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohstark/starkogs.htm Remember that Rootsweb will be down tomorrow. Judith in OH ----- Original Message ----- From: carole lubbers <carolelubbers@email.msn.com> To: <OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 9:32 AM Subject: [OHSTARK] History of Stark Co. edited by Wm. Henry Perrin 1881 > I have the Ohio County Histories CD sold by Family Tree Maker. In looking > at this book, I see it was made possible for this company to reproduce this > book by the Stark Co. Genealogy Society. Have copies been made of this book > that would be for sale? > > Carole Lubbers, Marietta, Ga. researching Willard: Tuscarawas, Stark, > Summit, Portage & Henry Counties, Ohio > Immel: Burlaswagen, Germany to Holmes Co., Ohio > Thomas G. Kemp: Cornwall, Engl. to Dover, Tuscarawas Co., Ohio > Paczkowski/Paszkowski/Patzkowski: Prussia to Russia to Marion Co., Kansas > Ruth Lloyd b. 1848 Merioneth Co., Wales, Father was John Lloyd b. 1816 > Gwyddelwern > Joseph Roberts b. 1848 husband of Ruth, can't locate anything for Joseph > Dennis Hogan b. 1850 Ireland to Cleveland, Ohio abt. 1870 > Mary Ellen Gleason b. 1852 Ireland to Cleveland, wife of Dennis Hogan > > ______________________________

Hi Jim: For 1926 death records go to the Ohio Historical Society web-site: http://www.ohiohistory.org They have an online search engine for the death records 1911-1937. (They have been scanned and some of the names are jumbled, so initially, try to do as wide a search as possible.) Once you have the information, you can order the certificate from them. And yes, the certificate should have the father's name and mother's maiden name, if it was known by the informant who gave the information at the time of the person's death. Good luck, Lori in CA > Subject: [OHSTARK] Birth/ Death records > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:54:09 -0500 > From: "Jim Zellers" <zelmo@mediaone.net> > To: OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com > > I have a question I was wondering if someone could answer it for me. A > Distant relative Frederick M. Zellers was born in 1850 in Tuscarawas County > OH and died in 1926 in Stark County.. I was told they do not have his birth > records recorded but I was wondering if I went for his death certificate dod > 12/15/1926 if it would have his parents names on it....this is what I am > looking for.. It does not have them listed on the marriage certificate which > I have. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Thank you,,, Karen > Zellers > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: RE: [OHSTARK] History of Stark Co. edited by Wm. Henry Perrin 1881 > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 17:34:52 -0800 > From: "Michael R. Swigart" <swigart@onemain.com> > To: OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com > > Hi, > > "Most likely permission was given to copy the original history for use > online." > > Is access to this book available on line? Great! What is the web address? > > Regards, > Michael Swigart > > -----Original Message----- > From: skippyg [mailto:skippyg@raex.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 12:40 PM > To: OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [OHSTARK] History of Stark Co. edited by Wm. Henry Perrin 1881 > > Hi ____, > > No reprints of this book are available to my knowledge. An historic > preservation of this history was done by grant to reproduce several copies > for the Stark County District Library. > > I am not aware of CDs of this history or any contract initiated by the > Stark County Genealogical Society to mass produce Perrin's history. Most > likely permission was given to copy the original history for use online. > > To inquire for further details contact the new president of the Stark County > Genealogy Society OGS: > > Miss Lauren Landis > Genealogy Division > 715 Market Ave N > Canton, OH 44702-1080 > > or e-mail landisla@oplin.lib.oh.us > > Neal Thompson Gardner > Genealogy Division > Stark County District Library > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "carole lubbers" <carolelubbers@email.msn.com> > To: <OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 22 February, 2001 12:32 PM > Subject: [OHSTARK] History of Stark Co. edited by Wm. Henry Perrin 1881 > > > I have the Ohio County Histories CD sold by Family Tree Maker. In looking > > at this book, I see it was made possible for this company to reproduce > this > > book by the Stark Co. Genealogy Society. Have copies been made of this > book > > that would be for sale? > > > > Carole Lubbers, Marietta, Ga. researching Willard: Tuscarawas, Stark, > > Summit, Portage & Henry Counties, Ohio > > Immel: Burlaswagen, Germany to Holmes Co., Ohio > > Thomas G. Kemp: Cornwall, Engl. to Dover, Tuscarawas Co., Ohio > > Paczkowski/Paszkowski/Patzkowski: Prussia to Russia to Marion Co., Kansas > > Ruth Lloyd b. 1848 Merioneth Co., Wales, Father was John Lloyd b. 1816 > > Gwyddelwern > > Joseph Roberts b. 1848 husband of Ruth, can't locate anything for Joseph > > Dennis Hogan b. 1850 Ireland to Cleveland, Ohio abt. 1870 > > Mary Ellen Gleason b. 1852 Ireland to Cleveland, wife of Dennis Hogan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== OHSTARK Mailing List ==== > > To UNsubscribe to OHSTARK-L, send click on the following: > > <mailto:OHSTARK-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > ==== OHSTARK Mailing List ==== > Stark County USGenWeb site: > <http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohstark/>

Hi: If you are interested in obtaining a copy of the original History of Stark Co, I suggest you contact your local used bookstore. I did and they were able to locate an original Kentucky History I was looking for, at a very reasonable price (and I live in CA!). A second time they located another book that was out of print (it was fiction, but based on fact, and mentioned one of my ancestors). That one happened to be signed by the author but was still a very reasonable $20! (The used bookstores have the ability to put out a "want" that goes to other used bookstores across the US.) Good luck! Lori > Subject: [OHSTARK] History of Stark Co. editedHenry Perrin 1881 > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:32:31 -0500 > From: "carole lubbers" <carolelubbers@email.msn.com> > To: OHSTARK-L@rootsweb.com > > I have the Ohio County Histories CD sold by Family Tree Maker. In looking > at this book, I see it was made possible for this company to reproduce this > book by the Stark Co. Genealogy Society. Have copies been made of this book > that would be for sale? > > Carole Lubbers, Marietta, Ga.