Greetings! I wanted to reply to your intriquing e-mail. I tried to do a little checking. First of all, Ken taxieman Baker (whom you may know) had advised once that the George Linder who married Mary Cyphers had had another marriage, presumably earlier. So I plugged Margaret Holtz into my tree temporarily as a second wife to my George, and created a Mary Linder as the daughter, marrying her to a George Wagner, etc. I estimated dates of birth, and tried to check this out with the One World Tree, and census data on line. I could not make any of this "work", and have again deleted it. I'd be glad to do the same thing again, but need dates of birth. There is one thing you need to keep in mind, however: The Mary Linder in my information is actually Mary Cyphers Linder, and is married to a George Linder. Sincerely, Smudf@aol.com wrote: Hello list, My name is Maria Mastin and I was interested to read the postings on Monday about the Linder/Wagner family. I am a descendant of Anna Margaret Wagner who was a daughter of Anthony Joseph Wagner and Barbara Manger (my 3rd great grandparents). One of Anthony's brothers was named Peter Wagner. Another brother was George Wagner who married Mary Linder. I have Mary's parents as George Linder and Margaret Holtz. It seems likely to me that we have a connection. Anthony, George and Peter were all sons of Mathias Wagner and Marie Elizabeth Romons. I believe that the Wagner, Linder and Romons families were all prominent in Sidney and many are buried in Graceland Cemetery. Linder, Mary - female, white, widow Residence 316 E. Poplar Street, Sidney Spouse - George Linder Born January 13, 1849 in Germany Date of death March 27, 1927 Age at death 78 years, 2 months, 14 days Housewife Parents - both unknown, both born in Germany Informant - John Holder Cause of death - heart disease, cardial insufficiency due to old age Fred Salm & Sons, undertaker If you will give me your mailing address, I'll mail copies of the two obits for these ladies to you. The obituary of Barbara indicates her husband was John Holder and her two sons were John and George Holder of Sidney. Mary Linder is also mentioned as a sister but there are no other relatives mentioned. The obituary of Mary Linder indicates she was the widow of George Linder. It indicates Mary came to this country when she was 8 years old and that she was the last of a family of three girls raised by Peter Wagner. Both of these obituaries indicate funeral services were held at Holy Angeles Catholic Church in Sidney. Peter Wagner was a prominent member of this church. I am betting there is a family relationship between Peter and the Seibers/Seibert girls. ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Sandra Franz