This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ortman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/606.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Becky/other readers: Thanks for your reading my message and responding. I was able to find a link to a website that published parts of the "Pilgrims All". Very nice. No, I have not been in contact with any HOYING researcher. I do not live in any of the above mentioned counties. I certainly appreciate your help. You definately have the approximate time frame that I am looking for. This much I am sure about...Anna Christina ORTMAN was born in 1839/1840 Geldern, Rheinland, Prussia and married her husband here in Ohio (Mercer Co.)1861. She shouldn't be so hard to find...perhaps in one of those "German's to America" books? Do you have access to the series? Thanks! Pat