Jaye, You might try getting hold of a book entitled "Denman - Frisinger and Allied Families (Early Ohio Pioneers)" by Betty Pond Snyder. It was published by Gateway Press in 1987. I was able to get hold of this book through interlibrary loan. Allen Co. Public Library in Ft. Wayne, IN also has a copy. Several other libraries in Ohio have the book. It was very helpful to me in detailing how my BALTZELL line fit into the DENMAN line. Jill