This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CYB.2ACE/605.1.1 Message Board Post: Peggy, This is interesting. Back in 1972 I visited a college friend in Manhattan whose uncle taught with Florence Hetzler at Fordham. When Uncle Paul saw me, he called Florence & said I had to talk with her. Turns out her grandfather, another George Hetzler, came over from Baden Baden in the 1880's, looking for relatives in Rochester, but he went to NY instead of PA. Small world. My father had a cousin John, known as Jack. His son Jack becaome a mathematician. "Mo" Hetzler was also the name of one of my father's cousins. That branch moved to Boyneton Beach, FL. I never knew them or their offspring, because they were older than my sisters & brother and I (Dad & Mom started having children when they were both in their 30's). Good luck with your research! Betsy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CYB.2ACE/605.1 Message Board Post: I have some Hetzlers in Miami and Shelby County areas of Ohio. You may want to check this out: http://www.tdn-net.com/genealogy/stories/biograph/biog-fl/0142.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CYB.2ACE/605 Message Board Post: Hi, My grandfather Clyde Brandon Hetzler (b. 1888) was the youngest of 13 children born in Rochester, PA to George or William Hetzler (not sure which, it's been a while). "George" (b. 1832) was one of three or four brothers who came over from Baden Baden in 1848. One settled somewhere around Maryland, the others in Beaver County, PA. One of George's brothers lost an arm in the Civil War (Union side). PapPap told me one of his sister's (Minnie) was married to a farmer in Ohio, and that a number of his brothers also headed west to Ohio before he was born. PapPap, a glass mold-maker like his father, was born in the house his father earler built (1852) in Rochester. PapPap had three children...Clyde William, Norman Arthur, and Arlene. Uncle Clyde & his wife Winnie had no children. Dad had four. Aunt Arlene & her husband Sam Camens in Ohio had three. Hope this helps in your research! Betsy

Hi, Was Dot related to a Dr. Jerry LENTINI of West Georgia University? Jerry married my first cousin, Harris but they divorced about 20 years ago. The last I heard Jerry was back at West Georgia. MY wife and oldest daughter graduated from West Georgia. My wife was born in Piqua and her GROSVENOR family was from Shelby County. I am a great grandson of Charles W, RICHTER Sr. and Anne POTTER of Madison, Morgan County,GA I am a Descendant of Capt James DANIEL and Jane HICKS of Albemarle County, Virginia John R. Clarke CC Morgan and Jefferson County, GA 2417 N. Patterson St:Thomasville, GA 31792 ----- Original Message ----- From: <wd8dcx@aol.com> To: <OHSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 7:27 PM Subject: [OHSHELBY] Re: Obituary request May 11, 2005 Dot Lentine > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/603.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > my experience has been, that quite often, what's on the website is all > that's in the paper... but maybe you'll be luckier than i am.... > > steve koons > > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

I have been trying to teach myself to use my "drafts" folder, however I seem to have no record there when I actually send something. Did I send the below to Mary Renner? Also, I wanted to advise that I have e-mailed Holy Angels Church and the funeral home, but have heard nothing. Did I do something wrong? My Prior Message: Thank you for your reply! So now I have a John (dob Ohio 1838) and Mary in addition to John Albert (dob in Ohio 8 Mar 1843) and Barbara! Great grandfather was born in Germany 17 Jul 1842, and must have been in Sidney some time in 1867, I calculate, because their first child was born 27 Apr 1868. I do not have a map of Ohio, so I do not know how close Sidney is to either Pomeroy, Meigs or Piqua, Miami County. It seems that John had moved from Sidney not long after 1840, and John Albert had moved some time before 1870. I do not want to overburdon you, and am ready to give up on this for a while. I am just afraid you will not be able to find out any more about the Cyphers, but it seems that this will be easier for you to research, and I would be grateful for any crumb of information. Mary/Jim Renner <jrenner1@woh.rr.com> wrote: I work one block from the Shelby County, Ohio, Health Department and one block from the Shelby County Courthouse. I can do limited look-ups (free) as my time permits. I go over on my lunch hour alot. If you will give me the name, approximate birth/death date or at least a range of years, I can at least check to let you know if there is a record. I can let you know what is on the record or if you want you can obtain a certified copy by writing to the health dept. Only certified copies are available from the health dept. and the cost is $15 each. For older birth records, I can check the records at the courthouse which is more time consuming but I am willing to do what I can as my time permits. Mary ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 Sandra Franz

Greetings! I wanted to reply to your intriquing e-mail. I tried to do a little checking. First of all, Ken taxieman Baker (whom you may know) had advised once that the George Linder who married Mary Cyphers had had another marriage, presumably earlier. So I plugged Margaret Holtz into my tree temporarily as a second wife to my George, and created a Mary Linder as the daughter, marrying her to a George Wagner, etc. I estimated dates of birth, and tried to check this out with the One World Tree, and census data on line. I could not make any of this "work", and have again deleted it. I'd be glad to do the same thing again, but need dates of birth. There is one thing you need to keep in mind, however: The Mary Linder in my information is actually Mary Cyphers Linder, and is married to a George Linder. Sincerely, Smudf@aol.com wrote: Hello list, My name is Maria Mastin and I was interested to read the postings on Monday about the Linder/Wagner family. I am a descendant of Anna Margaret Wagner who was a daughter of Anthony Joseph Wagner and Barbara Manger (my 3rd great grandparents). One of Anthony's brothers was named Peter Wagner. Another brother was George Wagner who married Mary Linder. I have Mary's parents as George Linder and Margaret Holtz. It seems likely to me that we have a connection. Anthony, George and Peter were all sons of Mathias Wagner and Marie Elizabeth Romons. I believe that the Wagner, Linder and Romons families were all prominent in Sidney and many are buried in Graceland Cemetery. Linder, Mary - female, white, widow Residence 316 E. Poplar Street, Sidney Spouse - George Linder Born January 13, 1849 in Germany Date of death March 27, 1927 Age at death 78 years, 2 months, 14 days Housewife Parents - both unknown, both born in Germany Informant - John Holder Cause of death - heart disease, cardial insufficiency due to old age Fred Salm & Sons, undertaker If you will give me your mailing address, I'll mail copies of the two obits for these ladies to you. The obituary of Barbara indicates her husband was John Holder and her two sons were John and George Holder of Sidney. Mary Linder is also mentioned as a sister but there are no other relatives mentioned. The obituary of Mary Linder indicates she was the widow of George Linder. It indicates Mary came to this country when she was 8 years old and that she was the last of a family of three girls raised by Peter Wagner. Both of these obituaries indicate funeral services were held at Holy Angeles Catholic Church in Sidney. Peter Wagner was a prominent member of this church. I am betting there is a family relationship between Peter and the Seibers/Seibert girls. ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Sandra Franz

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: FRENCH, LORTON, STEPHENSON, MICHAEL, JOHNS(t)ON, McCROSKY Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/604 Message Board Post: With all the info with answers comes more questions Would love to locate some dearth/burial and birth records or something...Have to check into that I'm guessing either Jane is the child of Mary & David or did possibly Rachel died in Child birth and also is Nancy E. a daughter of Rachel and David ? Why then why was she not on earlier census? Maybe she was either Mary's Child from a previous marriage ? Maybe a relative's child who moved in to help with The younger child after Mary died ? pass the tylenol ... sources: Marilyn Willer , Mike Canter , and also Kendra Thank you all for the great information David Martin FRENCH my gg* s/o John FRENCH & Anna STEPHENSON married (1.)Rachel LORTON on:February 06, 1851 Clark Co., OH married (2.)Mary MICHAEL b, 1845 on :24 Jan. 1861 Clark Co. OH. 1850 :He was still living at home at age 27 with parents and siblings in German Twsp. Clark Co., brothers Truman , Charles and Michael Have to dig up my notes on that. 1860 Census Clark Co., Springfield, OH David French age 38 bn OH - Gate Keeper Rachel French age 35 Amanda A. age 8 MartinS. age 5 James P. age 10/12 1870 Census Darke Co. OH - Union City OH, post Office David French age 47 - farm laborer Pers. Est. $100 Nancy E. age 17 - keeping house Martin L. age 15 - works on farm James P. age 11 - works on farm Jane age 8 All bn OH - All White 1880 Census Adams Twp. Champaign Co. OH living with his brother Truman French age 35 (head of hse.). Mary age 42 wife {This is Mary F. JOHSNS(T)ON d/o WALKER & Sarah (McCROSKY) JOHNSTON ?? daughter age 6 {This is Della Jane FRENCH b.abt. 1874} Michael French age 48 brother - works on farm David French age 56 broher - laborer. 1900 Census Clinton Twp. Shelby Co., Dist. 91 OH David French listed as 'inmate' age 77 bn. OH Bn. Oct. 1822 Shelby Co. Infirmary Census taken June 8, 1900 Widowed Father bn. NY, mother bn VA FRENCH, David Martin b. Oct 1822 Clark Co., OH

all the info with answers comes more questions Would love to locate some dearth/burial and birth records or something...Have to check into that I'm guessing either Jane is the child of Mary & David or did possibly Rachel died in Child birth and also is Nancy E. a daughter of Rachel and David ? Why then why was she not on earlier census? Maybe she was either Mary's Child from a previous marriage ? Maybe a relative's child who moved in to help with The younger child after Mary died ? pass the tylenol ... sources: Marilyn Willer , Mike Canter , and also Kendra Thank you all for the great information David Martin FRENCH my gg* s/o John FRENCH & Anna STEPHENSON married (1.)Rachel LORTON on:February 06, 1851 Clark Co., OH married (2.)Mary MICHAEL b, 1845 on :24 Jan. 1861 Clark Co. OH. 1850 :He was still living at home at age 27 with parents and siblings in German Twsp. Clark Co., brothers Truman , Charles and Michael Have to dig up my notes on that. 1860 Census Clark Co., Springfield, OH David French age 38 bn OH - Gate Keeper Rachel French age 35 Amanda A. age 8 MartinS. age 5 James P. age 10/12 1870 Census Darke Co. OH - Union City OH, post Office David French age 47 - farm laborer Pers. Est. $100 Nancy E. age 17 - keeping house Martin L. age 15 - works on farm James P. age 11 - works on farm Jane age 8 All bn OH - All White 1880 Census Adams Twp. Champaign Co. OH living with his brother Truman French age 35 (head of hse.). Mary age 42 wife {This is Mary F. JOHSNS(T)ON d/o WALKER & Sarah (McCROSKY) JOHNSTON ?? daughter age 6 {This is Della Jane FRENCH b.abt. 1874} Michael French age 48 brother - works on farm David French age 56 broher - laborer. 1900 Census Clinton Twp. Shelby Co., Dist. 91 OH David French listed as 'inmate' age 77 bn. OH Bn. Oct. 1822 Shelby Co. Infirmary Census taken June 8, 1900 Widowed Father bn. NY, mother bn VA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hello list, My name is Maria Mastin and I was interested to read the postings on Monday about the Linder/Wagner family. I am a descendant of Anna Margaret Wagner who was a daughter of Anthony Joseph Wagner and Barbara Manger (my 3rd great grandparents). One of Anthony's brothers was named Peter Wagner. Another brother was George Wagner who married Mary Linder. I have Mary's parents as George Linder and Margaret Holtz. It seems likely to me that we have a connection. Anthony, George and Peter were all sons of Mathias Wagner and Marie Elizabeth Romons. I believe that the Wagner, Linder and Romons families were all prominent in Sidney and many are buried in Graceland Cemetery. Linder, Mary - female, white, widow Residence 316 E. Poplar Street, Sidney Spouse - George Linder Born January 13, 1849 in Germany Date of death March 27, 1927 Age at death 78 years, 2 months, 14 days Housewife Parents - both unknown, both born in Germany Informant - John Holder Cause of death - heart disease, cardial insufficiency due to old age Fred Salm & Sons, undertaker If you will give me your mailing address, I'll mail copies of the two obits for these ladies to you. The obituary of Barbara indicates her husband was John Holder and her two sons were John and George Holder of Sidney. Mary Linder is also mentioned as a sister but there are no other relatives mentioned. The obituary of Mary Linder indicates she was the widow of George Linder. It indicates Mary came to this country when she was 8 years old and that she was the last of a family of three girls raised by Peter Wagner. Both of these obituaries indicate funeral services were held at Holy Angeles Catholic Church in Sidney. Peter Wagner was a prominent member of this church. I am betting there is a family relationship between Peter and the Seibers/Seibert girls.

Kudos to Mary Renner. She is a genealogist's friend. When I had a brick wall 2 years ago, she answered my query and offered a lookup, found my ggrandfather Absolem MILLER's connection to his mother. and got me off to a running start. A few other g- friends added their input and I ended up with Hannah RINEHEART MILLER ETHERINGTON's grandfather in the Rev. War ! I have noted Mary has helped other's as well. Thanks also to ROOTSWEB for bringing us all together. Isn't this a great hobby? Dot Miller

Sandra: I was able at noon today to find both death certificates and obituaries for Mary Linder and Barbara Holder. Death certificates: Holder, Barbara - female, white, widow Spouse - John Holder Residence 406 E. Poplar, Sidney Born 27 Dec 1843 in Germany Date of death December 18, 1922 Age at death 78 years 11 months 11 days Housewife Father John Seibert born in Germany, mother unknown Informant John Holder of Sidney Cause of death brohchitis, contributing factor senility Buried Graceland Cemetery Fred Salm & Sons, undertaker Linder, Mary - female, white, widow Residence 316 E. Poplar Street, Sidney Spouse - George Linder Born January 13, 1849 in Germany Date of death March 27, 1927 Age at death 78 years, 2 months, 14 days Housewife Parents - both unknown, both born in Germany Informant - John Holder Cause of death - heart disease, cardial insufficiency due to old age Fred Salm & Sons, undertaker If you will give me your mailing address, I'll mail copies of the two obits for these ladies to you. The obituary of Barbara indicates her husband was John Holder and her two sons were John and George Holder of Sidney. Mary Linder is also mentioned as a sister but there are no other relatives mentioned. The obituary of Mary Linder indicates she was the widow of George Linder. It indicates Mary came to this country when she was 8 years old and that she was the last of a family of three girls raised by Peter Wagner. Both of these obituaries indicate funeral services were held at Holy Angeles Catholic Church in Sidney. Peter Wagner was a prominent member of this church. I am betting there is a family relationship between Peter and the Seibers/Seibert girls. I would suggest you contact Holy Angels to see if they have any further records. Contact info can be found at http://www.holyangelssidney.com/contact.htm. Also, I would suggest you contact Mr. Tangeman of Salm, McGill & Tangeman Funeral Home in Sidney. This funeral home has evolved and changed names over the years and was formerly Fred Salm & Sons and has handled the majority of the Sidney Catholic funerals for many years. Their web site is: http://www.salm-mcgillandtangemanfh.com/index.htm I was at a meeting of the Shelby County Genealogical Society that was held at Salm, McGill & Tangeman last fall and Mr. Tangeman generously allowed members of the society to veiw many books of old funeral records. He may be able to find records of funerals for these two ladies. I would also suggest that you try to find anyone researching the Wagner family. I will look through some back issues of Shelbyana, publication of the Shelby Co. Gene. Society, to see if I can come up with any more info. or someone researching the Wagner family. I was not able to get to the probate court to check on George Linder's date of death but hope to get to that later this week and then hopefully I will be able to find an obituary for him. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Franz Phillips" <sfranz7@sbcglobal.net> To: <OHSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [OHSHELBY] Re: Birth Index??? > Thank you for your reply! So now I have a John (dob Ohio 1838) and Mary > in addition to John Albert (dob in Ohio 8 Mar 1843) and Barbara! Great > grandfather was born in Germany 17 Jul 1842, and must have been in Sidney > some time in 1867, I calculate, because their first child was born 27 Apr > 1868. I do not have a map of Ohio, so I do not know how close Sidney is > to either Pomeroy, Meigs or Piqua, Miami County. It seems that John had > moved from Sidney not long after 1840, and John Albert had moved some time > before 1870. I do not want to overburdon you, and am ready to give up on > this for a while. > > I am just afraid you will not be able to find out any more about the > Cyphers, but it seems that this will be easier for you to research, and I > would be grateful for any crumb of information. I do have a bit of info > for you from Ken "taxieman" Baker (who may be known to you, also). His > e-mail stated 2 Jul 2004 that "Barbara was born in baveria, Germany > 1/13/1847, and died 3/27/1927 and is buried with her husband John B. > Holder in Graceland, Sidney, Ohio...Mary was born in Bavaria, Germany > 1/13/1848 and died 3/27/1927. She married George Linder (his second > marriage), They lived in Clinton Twp, Shelby county, Ohio...George was > moved from Calvery cemetry to Graceland cemetry." > > Regarding your question about how I had your name, I had saved the message > below: > > Mary/Jim Renner <jrenner1@woh.rr.com> wrote: > I work one block from the Shelby County, Ohio, Health Department > and one block from the Shelby County Courthouse. I can do limited > look-ups (free) as my time permits. I go over on my lunch hour > alot. If you will give me the name, approximate birth/death date or at > least > a range of years, I can at least check to let you know if there is a > record. > I can let you know what is on the record or if you want you can obtain > a certified copy by writing to the health dept. Only certified copies are > available from the health dept. and the cost is $15 each. For older > birth records, I can check the records at the courthouse which is more > time consuming but I am willing to do what I can as my time permits. > > Mary > > > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > Sandra Franz > > > > > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Thank you again! I should send checks for the death certificates and obituaries, shouldn't I? My address is: Sandra Franz, 1130 W Cornelia Ave, Unit I, Chicago, IL, 60657. I sent you a couple of e-mails earlier, and am hoping they will be helpful. Mary/Jim Renner <jrenner1@woh.rr.com> wrote: Sandra: I was able at noon today to find both death certificates and obituaries for Mary Linder and Barbara Holder. Death certificates: Holder, Barbara - female, white, widow Spouse - John Holder Residence 406 E. Poplar, Sidney Born 27 Dec 1843 in Germany Date of death December 18, 1922 Age at death 78 years 11 months 11 days Housewife Father John Seibert born in Germany, mother unknown Informant John Holder of Sidney Cause of death brohchitis, contributing factor senility Buried Graceland Cemetery Fred Salm & Sons, undertaker Linder, Mary - female, white, widow Residence 316 E. Poplar Street, Sidney Spouse - George Linder Born January 13, 1849 in Germany Date of death March 27, 1927 Age at death 78 years, 2 months, 14 days Housewife Parents - both unknown, both born in Germany Informant - John Holder Cause of death - heart disease, cardial insufficiency due to old age Fred Salm & Sons, undertaker If you will give me your mailing address, I'll mail copies of the two obits for these ladies to you. The obituary of Barbara indicates her husband was John Holder and her two sons were John and George Holder of Sidney. Mary Linder is also mentioned as a sister but there are no other relatives mentioned. The obituary of Mary Linder indicates she was the widow of George Linder. It indicates Mary came to this country when she was 8 years old and that she was the last of a family of three girls raised by Peter Wagner. Both of these obituaries indicate funeral services were held at Holy Angeles Catholic Church in Sidney. Peter Wagner was a prominent member of this church. I am betting there is a family relationship between Peter and the Seibers/Seibert girls. I would suggest you contact Holy Angels to see if they have any further records. Contact info can be found at http://www.holyangelssidney.com/contact.htm. Also, I would suggest you contact Mr. Tangeman of Salm, McGill & Tangeman Funeral Home in Sidney. This funeral home has evolved and changed names over the years and was formerly Fred Salm & Sons and has handled the majority of the Sidney Catholic funerals for many years. Their web site is: http://www.salm-mcgillandtangemanfh.com/index.htm I was at a meeting of the Shelby County Genealogical Society that was held at Salm, McGill & Tangeman last fall and Mr. Tangeman generously allowed members of the society to veiw many books of old funeral records. He may be able to find records of funerals for these two ladies. I would also suggest that you try to find anyone researching the Wagner family. I will look through some back issues of Shelbyana, publication of the Shelby Co. Gene. Society, to see if I can come up with any more info. or someone researching the Wagner family. I was not able to get to the probate court to check on George Linder's date of death but hope to get to that later this week and then hopefully I will be able to find an obituary for him. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Franz Phillips" To: Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [OHSHELBY] Re: Birth Index??? > Thank you for your reply! So now I have a John (dob Ohio 1838) and Mary > in addition to John Albert (dob in Ohio 8 Mar 1843) and Barbara! Great > grandfather was born in Germany 17 Jul 1842, and must have been in Sidney > some time in 1867, I calculate, because their first child was born 27 Apr > 1868. I do not have a map of Ohio, so I do not know how close Sidney is > to either Pomeroy, Meigs or Piqua, Miami County. It seems that John had > moved from Sidney not long after 1840, and John Albert had moved some time > before 1870. I do not want to overburdon you, and am ready to give up on > this for a while. > > I am just afraid you will not be able to find out any more about the > Cyphers, but it seems that this will be easier for you to research, and I > would be grateful for any crumb of information. I do have a bit of info > for you from Ken "taxieman" Baker (who may be known to you, also). His > e-mail stated 2 Jul 2004 that "Barbara was born in baveria, Germany > 1/13/1847, and died 3/27/1927 and is buried with her husband John B. > Holder in Graceland, Sidney, Ohio...Mary was born in Bavaria, Germany > 1/13/1848 and died 3/27/1927. She married George Linder (his second > marriage), They lived in Clinton Twp, Shelby county, Ohio...George was > moved from Calvery cemetry to Graceland cemetry." > > Regarding your question about how I had your name, I had saved the message > below: > > Mary/Jim Renner wrote: > I work one block from the Shelby County, Ohio, Health Department > and one block from the Shelby County Courthouse. I can do limited > look-ups (free) as my time permits. I go over on my lunch hour > alot. If you will give me the name, approximate birth/death date or at > least > a range of years, I can at least check to let you know if there is a > record. > I can let you know what is on the record or if you want you can obtain > a certified copy by writing to the health dept. Only certified copies are > available from the health dept. and the cost is $15 each. For older > birth records, I can check the records at the courthouse which is more > time consuming but I am willing to do what I can as my time permits. > > Mary > > > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > Sandra Franz > > > > > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx Sandra Franz

Thank you for your reply! So now I have a John (dob Ohio 1838) and Mary in addition to John Albert (dob in Ohio 8 Mar 1843) and Barbara! Great grandfather was born in Germany 17 Jul 1842, and must have been in Sidney some time in 1867, I calculate, because their first child was born 27 Apr 1868. I do not have a map of Ohio, so I do not know how close Sidney is to either Pomeroy, Meigs or Piqua, Miami County. It seems that John had moved from Sidney not long after 1840, and John Albert had moved some time before 1870. I do not want to overburdon you, and am ready to give up on this for a while. I am just afraid you will not be able to find out any more about the Cyphers, but it seems that this will be easier for you to research, and I would be grateful for any crumb of information. I do have a bit of info for you from Ken "taxieman" Baker (who may be known to you, also). His e-mail stated 2 Jul 2004 that "Barbara was born in baveria, Germany 1/13/1847, and died 3/27/1927 and is buried with her husband John B. Holder in Graceland, Sidney, Ohio...Mary was born in Bavaria, Germany 1/13/1848 and died 3/27/1927. She married George Linder (his second marriage), They lived in Clinton Twp, Shelby county, Ohio...George was moved from Calvery cemetry to Graceland cemetry." Regarding your question about how I had your name, I had saved the message below: Mary/Jim Renner <jrenner1@woh.rr.com> wrote: I work one block from the Shelby County, Ohio, Health Department and one block from the Shelby County Courthouse. I can do limited look-ups (free) as my time permits. I go over on my lunch hour alot. If you will give me the name, approximate birth/death date or at least a range of years, I can at least check to let you know if there is a record. I can let you know what is on the record or if you want you can obtain a certified copy by writing to the health dept. Only certified copies are available from the health dept. and the cost is $15 each. For older birth records, I can check the records at the courthouse which is more time consuming but I am willing to do what I can as my time permits. Mary ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 Sandra Franz

Unsubscribe -- Researching: REDINBO, REDENBAUGH, REDINBAUGH, REDENBO, SUTTON, SITTON, PROPHET, BOWEN, PETRO, PAXTON, JONES, COLEMAN, PRICHARD, COLLINS, McCORKLE, and many more. > Content-Type: text/plain > > OHSHELBY-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 75 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: Obituary request May 11, 2005 [wd8dcx@aol.com] > #2 Re: Obituary request May 11, 2005 [mathisgbg@yahoo.com] > #3 Re: Obituary request May 11, 2005 [wd8dcx@aol.com] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from OHSHELBY-D, send a message to > > OHSHELBY-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the list administrator, send mail to > OHSHELBY-admin@rootsweb.com. > ______________________________> X-Message: #1 > Date: 15 May 2005 11:50:59 -0600 > From: wd8dcx@aol.com > To: OHSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <MB03NSmbGJuEzf2HL9O00003a84@MB03.myfamilysouth.com> > Subject: Re: Obituary request May 11, 2005 Dot Lentine > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/603.1 > > Message Board Post: > > http://www.sidneydailynews.com/main.asp?SectionID=9 > > this should take you right to it.... if it doesn work then just go to > www.sidneydailynews.com and look for the obituary link on the left side of the > screen.... > > these don't hang around more than a week or so.... > > steve koons, (ex-Sidney person) > ______________________________> X-Message: #2 > Date: 15 May 2005 17:04:42 -0600 > From: mathisgbg@yahoo.com > To: OHSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <MB08AmEaJswFCHOzyfy00011fe1@MB08.myfamilysouth.com> > Subject: Re: Obituary request May 11, 2005 Dot Lentine > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/603.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Thanks for the help. The link works, but you have to have a subscription to get > more than the headline view on the page. > > Another reader on this list sent me a cut&paste copy of the obit and someone > else promised to scan the newspaper and send it. > > Thanks to all who responded. > > John M > ______________________________> X-Message: #3 > Date: 15 May 2005 17:27:02 -0600 > From: wd8dcx@aol.com > To: OHSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <MB09SmLAztxc1o8yfog00000ccd@MB09.myfamilysouth.com> > Subject: Re: Obituary request May 11, 2005 Dot Lentine > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/603.1.1.1 > > Message Board Post: > > my experience has been, that quite often, what's on the website is all that's in > the paper... but maybe you'll be luckier than i am.... > > steve koons

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/603.1.1.1 Message Board Post: my experience has been, that quite often, what's on the website is all that's in the paper... but maybe you'll be luckier than i am.... steve koons

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/603.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the help. The link works, but you have to have a subscription to get more than the headline view on the page. Another reader on this list sent me a cut&paste copy of the obit and someone else promised to scan the newspaper and send it. Thanks to all who responded. John M

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/603.1 Message Board Post: http://www.sidneydailynews.com/main.asp?SectionID=9 this should take you right to it.... if it doesn work then just go to www.sidneydailynews.com and look for the obituary link on the left side of the screen.... these don't hang around more than a week or so.... steve koons, (ex-Sidney person)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/603 Message Board Post: I am looking for an obituary notice from Sidney Ohio from May 11th, 2005. My cousin Dorothy L "dot" Lentine. It Might have been published within a few days. Any help is appreciated. Thank You. John

I'm not sure if anyone answered this post. There was a newspaper called the Shelby County Democrat. It is on microfilm and the Amos Memorial Public Library. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Miscavich" <jmisky@cox.net> To: <OHSHELBY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 11:43 PM Subject: [OHSHELBY] RE: OHSHELBY-D Digest V05 #68 > Does anyone know what Sidney/Hardin - Shelby County - newspapers existed > in > 1910? -- Particularly one that would be pro-democrat. Also, would it be > on > microfilm or what and where would it be located? Thanks. > > > > _____ > > From: OHSHELBY-D-request@rootsweb.com > [mailto:OHSHELBY-D-request@rootsweb.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 9:01 AM > To: OHSHELBY-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: OHSHELBY-D Digest V05 #68 > > > > > > > > ==== OHSHELBY Mailing List ==== > Check out Shelby County, OHGenWeb page at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohshelby/mnpg.html > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.5.7 - Release Date: 3/1/2005 > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Watkins Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/CYB.2ACE/602 Message Board Post: I am searching for Singleton Watkins who was born about 1816 in virginia and had moved to Ohio by about 1838 when he married Margaret. They had many children in Ohio until they moved by 1860 to Indiana. I am wondering if they lived in this county. If anyone can help me locate their Marriage record and where they lived I would appreciate it. Thanks. Ann